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Jitsi Meet

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  • nebulonN
    nebulonN
    nebulon
    Staff
    wrote on last edited by
    #26

    For jitsi to work properly, we would need a coturn instance on Cloudron, which unfortunately has to run on port 80/443 to work reliably on public wifis (other ports are often blocked there). So far we haven't found a solution to make turn work with our nginx reverse proxy, which also has to run on the same ports. If anyone finds a solution here, which we can try, I am happy to give it a shot.

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    • nebulonN nebulon

      For jitsi to work properly, we would need a coturn instance on Cloudron, which unfortunately has to run on port 80/443 to work reliably on public wifis (other ports are often blocked there). So far we haven't found a solution to make turn work with our nginx reverse proxy, which also has to run on the same ports. If anyone finds a solution here, which we can try, I am happy to give it a shot.

      jdaviescoatesJ
      jdaviescoatesJ
      jdaviescoates
      wrote on last edited by
      #27

      @nebulon damn, guess that means Jitsi wont be coming to Cloudron any time soon 😕 wish I could help, but have no idea!

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • nebulonN nebulon

        For jitsi to work properly, we would need a coturn instance on Cloudron, which unfortunately has to run on port 80/443 to work reliably on public wifis (other ports are often blocked there). So far we haven't found a solution to make turn work with our nginx reverse proxy, which also has to run on the same ports. If anyone finds a solution here, which we can try, I am happy to give it a shot.

        yusfY
        yusfY
        yusf
        wrote on last edited by yusf
        #28

        @nebulon That is very unfortunate, but thank you for explaining these underlying issues. Do I understand it correctly that if there's a solution, the TURN server would need to be a part of the Cloudron software itself, not an app?

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        • nebulonN nebulon

          For jitsi to work properly, we would need a coturn instance on Cloudron, which unfortunately has to run on port 80/443 to work reliably on public wifis (other ports are often blocked there). So far we haven't found a solution to make turn work with our nginx reverse proxy, which also has to run on the same ports. If anyone finds a solution here, which we can try, I am happy to give it a shot.

          jdaviescoatesJ
          jdaviescoatesJ
          jdaviescoates
          wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
          #29

          @nebulon said in Jitsi Meet:

          For jitsi to work properly, we would need a coturn instance on Cloudron, which unfortunately has to run on port 80/443 to work reliably on public wifis (other ports are often blocked there)

          Perhaps an interim solution would be to use other ports? I'm mean, it'd be great if people could join using open public WiFi, but I think in many use cases Jitsi not working on such networks wouldn't be too much of an issue. Eg. Like right now the need is for people in covid_19 coronavirus lockdown using their own private WiFi to be able to use it.

          I note @iqweb has managed to install a coturn server on the same VPS as their Cloudron, for use with Nextcloud Talk, could that be part of the solution to getting Jitsi working too? https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4207

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • girishG
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            girish
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            wrote on last edited by girish
            #30

            Before everyone jumps to conclusions 🙂 So far, @nebulon has been trying to make coturn to be part of the app itself. This is indeed quite hard.

            So, I think what this means is that we have to integrate the turn server into the platform code base itself. So, it would become an addon/service just like the databases and other things. And then nextcloud, jitsi, kopano meet etc can just use this coturn service. Integrating coturn into cloudron is not very hard but will require a new release of Cloudron.

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            • jimcavoliJ
              jimcavoliJ
              jimcavoli
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              wrote on last edited by
              #31

              Thanks for the added clarity, @girish - certainly look forward to this and other apps such an addition would enable!

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              • girishG girish

                Before everyone jumps to conclusions 🙂 So far, @nebulon has been trying to make coturn to be part of the app itself. This is indeed quite hard.

                So, I think what this means is that we have to integrate the turn server into the platform code base itself. So, it would become an addon/service just like the databases and other things. And then nextcloud, jitsi, kopano meet etc can just use this coturn service. Integrating coturn into cloudron is not very hard but will require a new release of Cloudron.

                jdaviescoatesJ
                jdaviescoatesJ
                jdaviescoates
                wrote on last edited by
                #32

                @girish said in Jitsi Meet:

                So, I think what this means is that we have to integrate the turn server into the platform code base itself. So, it would become an addon/service just like the databases and other things. And then nextcloud, jitsi, kopano meet etc can just use this coturn service. Integrating coturn into cloudron is not very hard but will require a new release of Cloudron.

                🙂

                That'd be totally awesome!

                Which I guess is what we've come to expect from Cloudron 😄

                It also sounds like having a turn server service/ addon that can be used by nextcloud talk/ jitsi meet/ kopano meet etc, would be a much better solution anyway, so I'm actually really glad that making it part of the app is hard! 🙂

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                • yusfY
                  yusfY
                  yusf
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #33

                  Great thinking @girish! In addition to Nextcloud Talk, Jitsi Meet and Kopano, the Matrix app will also benefit from this.

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                  • yusfY
                    yusfY
                    yusf
                    wrote on last edited by yusf
                    #34

                    On the app packaging level, has there been efforts to include LDAP support? I’d like for Cloudron users to be the ones able to create rooms, then able to invite whoever: users and guests alike.

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                    • yusfY
                      yusfY
                      yusf
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #35

                      LDAP seems to be supported out of the box in dockerized Jitsi Meet! 🎉

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ
                        jdaviescoatesJ
                        jdaviescoates
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #36

                        Sounds like end to end encryption coming to jitsi soon (although also sounds like perhaps only for chromium/ chrome):

                        https://jitsi.org/news/e2ee/

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        • imc67I
                          imc67I
                          imc67
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #37

                          Any news on a Jitsi app on Cloudron?

                          The Privacy Authority of The Netherlands published a overview of video-call apps (https://autoriteitpersoonsgegevens.nl/nl/nieuws/keuzehulp-privacy-bij-videobel-apps) and here (https://autoriteitpersoonsgegevens.nl/sites/default/files/atoms/files/keuzehulp_privacy_videobellen.pdf) you see that it looks like Jitsi is the best choice!

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                          • imc67I
                            imc67I
                            imc67
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #38

                            @girish is there any news? Our experience with Kopano Meet was not succesfull and as mentioned above Jitsi is the best solution in this COVID-19 times.

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                            • yusfY
                              yusfY
                              yusf
                              wrote on last edited by yusf
                              #39

                              I’m also awaiting Jitsi. Maybe it would also make sense from a (Cloudron) marketing perspective? Like,

                              Ready to drop Zoom for something free, unlimited and safe? Host Jitsi Meet yourself in 10 clicks with Cloudron.

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                              • nebulonN
                                nebulonN
                                nebulon
                                Staff
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #40

                                No major news on this so far, unfortunately it is quite the beast to package with a lot of undocumented configuration options, even their own debian packaging scripts are a hit and miss in our experience. Surely it would be good to have and hopefully eventually we will get there.

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                                • nebulonN nebulon

                                  No major news on this so far, unfortunately it is quite the beast to package with a lot of undocumented configuration options, even their own debian packaging scripts are a hit and miss in our experience. Surely it would be good to have and hopefully eventually we will get there.

                                  yusfY
                                  yusfY
                                  yusf
                                  wrote on last edited by yusf
                                  #41

                                  @nebulon Keep us posted for any aid you need in furthering this endeavor.

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                                  • necrevistonnezrN
                                    necrevistonnezrN
                                    necrevistonnezr
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #42

                                    Office topic: Jitsi gets integrated in the Brave Browser - https://www.ghacks.net/2020/05/27/brave-launches-brave-together-video-calling-in-latest-nightly-version/amp/

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                                      A
                                      andrewj720
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                                      #43

                                      +1 for Jitsi Meet Server on Cloudron

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                                        S
                                        stefan.werner
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #44

                                        +1 for Jitsi Meet Server on Cloudron

                                        Especially with user manegement

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                                        • R
                                          R
                                          rlp10
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #45

                                          +1 for Jitsi Meet on Cloudron

                                          I'm using Kopano and I don't find it to be as reliable for establishing connections as the public Jitsi server. I would far prefer to use my own machine though.

                                          Is this being actively worked on? Can I help at all, say by testing?

                                          Would it help if there was a small bounty for getting it working (if that is appropriate in this community)?

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