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How to install npm modules?

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  • girishG girish

    See https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/n8n/#built-in-node-modules and https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/n8n/#custom-node-modules

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    shrey
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    #5

    If you require a custom module that is not installed in /app/code/node_modules, please make a post in our forum.

    @girish well, simply put, how do i install modules not already available in the node_modules folder?

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      @shrey Currently, you have to request them here in the forum and we will add it to the package. Basically, we add them here - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/n8n-app/-/blob/master/Dockerfile#L16

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        shrey
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        @girish Hi.
        Could you please add the following npm libraries to n8n:

        • https://www.npmjs.com/package/generate-password
        • https://www.npmjs.com/package/chance

        Thanks.

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          nebulon
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          Where are those required? Those appear to be very specific. If this is custom code then given the low complexity of those modules, I would suggest to just add the js file from them. Like generate-password is really only https://github.com/brendanashworth/generate-password/blob/master/src/generate.js

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            Chance - Random generator helper for JavaScript

            Note that crypto module can be used to generate random stuff.

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              shrey
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              Hi @nebulon. Thanks for the recommendation.

              Although, that's a bit of an odd recommendation. Because, i would like to be able (and also expect) to use the tool (n8n) with pretty much all of its capabilities that are allowed for the self-hosted versions, being able to natively use any compatible npm package being one of them.

              @nebulon said in How to install npm modules?:

              If this is custom code then given the low complexity of those modules, I would suggest to just add the js file from them.

              Also, this isn't very efficient or even feasible as firstly, reusability of code/scripts is not a big thing in n8n. So, the entire script will have to be included in every node, every time it's required. Secondly, that's not the normal way of doing things in n8n.

              I was under the impression that this was supposed to be a simple formality (to send a request to include an npm package in the n8n modules) and not really a vetting process. If that's not the policy of Cloudron for the near-future, then kindly let me know.

              Thanks.

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                it is a simple change at first, but the more node modules we ship, the higher the chances that it will break if we update and we can't realistically test all this. Mostly this is also due to our experience with how often node_modules become unmaintained, or break compatibility. Like with other loose plugin systems this is becomes an update nightmare very soon, so we are a bit hesitant to add non-essential ones and especially not ones which are solidly maintained upstream.

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                • nebulonN nebulon

                  it is a simple change at first, but the more node modules we ship, the higher the chances that it will break if we update and we can't realistically test all this. Mostly this is also due to our experience with how often node_modules become unmaintained, or break compatibility. Like with other loose plugin systems this is becomes an update nightmare very soon, so we are a bit hesitant to add non-essential ones and especially not ones which are solidly maintained upstream.

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                  shrey
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                  @nebulon
                  Is it not possible to allow install/restrict the custom modules to the concerned Cloudron instance only, and not the common n8n Cloudron package?

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                    nebulon
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                    So far this was not possible to implement due to the way npm works and how n8n handles requires. This is actually the only reason why we have this workaround to include essential ones in the package.

                    There is always a fine line between being able to test updates and maintain packages vs. full customization with code changes by the sysadmin. We usually aim for a middleground where we don't lose the ability to test updates.

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                      Generally, I look into the modules a bit before including them into the package. For example, https://www.npmjs.com/package/generate-password hasn't been updated for 2 years. Is this safe anymore (given that it's generating passwords).

                      @shrey More often than not, it is best to include library functions in your code then use modules. We are a node shop ourselves, and we have actually removed almost 50% of the modules we used to depend on the past and just include them in our code base itself. The smaller simple library function style modules are in my experience very risky.

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                        To add, pwgen -1s 16 (pwgen is in the base image) gives you a strong password. Can also add -y for stronger.

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                        • girishG girish

                          Generally, I look into the modules a bit before including them into the package. For example, https://www.npmjs.com/package/generate-password hasn't been updated for 2 years. Is this safe anymore (given that it's generating passwords).

                          @shrey More often than not, it is best to include library functions in your code then use modules. We are a node shop ourselves, and we have actually removed almost 50% of the modules we used to depend on the past and just include them in our code base itself. The smaller simple library function style modules are in my experience very risky.

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                          kastiell93
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                          @girish Hi! Can you add the firebase-admin package to n8n?

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                            Added now

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                              ebauger
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                              npm install stripe?

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                                ebauger
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                                Hi @nebulon!

                                What if we can install custom npm module from this line export NODE_FUNCTION_ALLOW_EXTERNAL=module1,modulel2,moduleN+1
                                in /app/data/env.sh

                                Here the modified Dockerfile I propose:

                                FROM cloudron/base:4.2.0@sha256:46da2fffb36353ef714f97ae8e962bd2c212ca091108d768ba473078319a47f4
                                
                                RUN mkdir -p /app/pkg /app/code
                                WORKDIR /app/code
                                
                                RUN apt-get update && \
                                    apt-get -y install graphicsmagick recutils asciidoctor pandoc musl && \
                                    rm -rf /var/cache/apt /var/lib/apt/lists
                                
                                RUN ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-musl/libc.so /lib/libc.musl-x86_64.so.1
                                
                                ARG N8N_VERSION=1.25.1
                                
                                # Add a script to install npm packages from env.sh
                                COPY install_packages_from_env.sh /app/pkg/
                                RUN chmod +x /app/pkg/install_packages_from_env.sh
                                
                                # n8n. handlebars and jsonata are just helpful modules that user can enable
                                RUN npm install n8n@${N8N_VERSION}  && \
                                    npm install handlebars@4.7.7 jsonata@2.0.2 marked@4.3.0 bwip-js@3.3.0 ajv-formats@2.1.1 odoo-xmlrpc@1.0.8 firebase-admin@11.10.1
                                
                                # install custom npm modules from the env.sh on the NODE_FUNCTION_ALLOW_EXTERNAL
                                RUN /app/pkg/install_packages_from_env.sh /app/data/env.sh
                                
                                RUN rm -rf /app/code/node_modules/n8n/dist/public && ln -s /run/public /app/code/node_modules/n8n/dist/public
                                
                                ENV N8N_USER_FOLDER="/app/data/user"
                                ENV N8N_CONFIG_FILES="/app/data/configs/default.json"
                                ENV N8N_CUSTOM_EXTENSIONS="/app/data/custom-extensions"
                                
                                ENV PATH=/app/code/node_modules/.bin:$PATH
                                
                                COPY start.sh env.sh.template /app/pkg/
                                
                                CMD [ "/app/pkg/start.sh" ]
                                

                                And here's an example of what the install_packages_from_env.sh script might look like:

                                #!/bin/bash
                                
                                # Script to install npm packages from env.sh
                                
                                ENV_FILE=$1
                                
                                if [ -f "$ENV_FILE" ]; then
                                    # Extract the line with NODE_FUNCTION_ALLOW_EXTERNAL and check if it's not commented
                                    PACKAGES_LINE=$(grep -E '^export NODE_FUNCTION_ALLOW_EXTERNAL=' $ENV_FILE)
                                
                                    if [ ! -z "$PACKAGES_LINE" ]; then
                                        # Remove 'export ' prefix
                                        PACKAGES=$(echo $PACKAGES_LINE | sed 's/export NODE_FUNCTION_ALLOW_EXTERNAL=//')
                                
                                        # Split the packages and install them if not already present
                                        IFS=',' read -ra ADDR <<< "$PACKAGES"
                                        for package in "${ADDR[@]}"; do
                                            if [ ! -d "./node_modules/$package" ]; then
                                                echo "Installing $package..."
                                                npm install $package
                                            else
                                                echo "$package is already installed."
                                            fi
                                        done
                                    else
                                        echo "No packages to install or line is commented out with #."
                                    fi
                                else
                                    echo "env.sh file not found"
                                fi
                                

                                On (re)start of n8n, the npm modules should installed.

                                What do you think?

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                                  I am not sure I follow the proposal 100% but the main root cause of not being able to install other node_modules is actually that apps run in a read-only filesystem. So I don't see how such a script would fix this problem, but maybe I miss a point in your proposal.

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                                  • nebulonN nebulon

                                    I am not sure I follow the proposal 100% but the main root cause of not being able to install other node_modules is actually that apps run in a read-only filesystem. So I don't see how such a script would fix this problem, but maybe I miss a point in your proposal.

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                                    ebauger
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                                    @nebulon my proposal is to install the modules when we build the image from the Dockerfile. I open to any other solution.

                                    The modules installed will be on the read-only filesystem. See the Diff from this source

                                    ...
                                    # Add a script to install npm packages from env.sh
                                    COPY install_packages_from_env.sh /app/pkg/
                                    RUN chmod +x /app/pkg/install_packages_from_env.sh
                                    ...
                                    # install custom npm modules from the env.sh on the NODE_FUNCTION_ALLOW_EXTERNAL
                                    RUN /app/pkg/install_packages_from_env.sh /app/data/env.sh
                                    ...
                                    
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                                      @nebulon my proposal is to install the modules when we build the image from the Dockerfile. I open to any other solution.

                                      The modules installed will be on the read-only filesystem. See the Diff from this source

                                      ...
                                      # Add a script to install npm packages from env.sh
                                      COPY install_packages_from_env.sh /app/pkg/
                                      RUN chmod +x /app/pkg/install_packages_from_env.sh
                                      ...
                                      # install custom npm modules from the env.sh on the NODE_FUNCTION_ALLOW_EXTERNAL
                                      RUN /app/pkg/install_packages_from_env.sh /app/data/env.sh
                                      ...
                                      
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                                      BrutalBirdie
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                                      @ebauger
                                      Docker images are build before runtime.
                                      /app/data does only exist on runtime.
                                      So the command:

                                      RUN /app/pkg/install_packages_from_env.sh /app/data/env.sh
                                      

                                      will not work.

                                      But I understand where the intention is.

                                      Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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                                        Recently, with nodebb we started experimenting with making the node_modules writable (grudgingly). Maybe we can do the same for n8n.

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          Recently, with nodebb we started experimenting with making the node_modules writable (grudgingly). Maybe we can do the same for n8n.

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                                          @girish Certainly support this effort!

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