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Firewall / Spamassassin: Automatic list update

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  • necrevistonnezrN
    necrevistonnezrN
    necrevistonnezr
    Super Fan
    wrote on last edited by
    #18

    I guess since the blocklist is in /home/yellowtent/platformdata/firewall/blocklist.txt, one could build something with a script & cron?

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    • necrevistonnezrN
      necrevistonnezrN
      necrevistonnezr
      Super Fan
      wrote on last edited by
      #19

      @girish is the way I described feasible? Is that txt file the actual list the firewall accesses to check blocked IPs or is this txt file e.g. used to feed into a database?

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      • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

        @girish is the way I described feasible? Is that txt file the actual list the firewall accesses to check blocked IPs or is this txt file e.g. used to feed into a database?

        girishG
        girishG
        girish
        Staff
        wrote on last edited by
        #20

        @necrevistonnezr Updating the txt file is not enough. The txt file is actually just a "cache" , the real value is stored in the database.

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        • girishG girish

          @necrevistonnezr Updating the txt file is not enough. The txt file is actually just a "cache" , the real value is stored in the database.

          necrevistonnezrN
          necrevistonnezrN
          necrevistonnezr
          Super Fan
          wrote on last edited by
          #21

          @girish Ok, so simple scripting is out of the question.

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          • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

            @girish Ok, so simple scripting is out of the question.

            girishG
            girishG
            girish
            Staff
            wrote on last edited by
            #22

            @necrevistonnezr you can still use the api though

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            • necrevistonnezrN
              necrevistonnezrN
              necrevistonnezr
              Super Fan
              wrote on last edited by
              #23

              Well, the "setBlockList" operation allows to add a range of IPs but not a list of IPs in a file or am I wrong?

              curl -X POST -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Authorization: Bearer $CLOUDRON_TOKEN" "https://$CLOUDRON_DOMAIN/api/v1/network/blocklist" --data '{"blocklist":"# Spammy network\n10.244.0.0/16"}'
              

              as per: https://docs.cloudron.io/api.html#tag/Network/operation/setBlockList

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              • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                Well, the "setBlockList" operation allows to add a range of IPs but not a list of IPs in a file or am I wrong?

                curl -X POST -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Authorization: Bearer $CLOUDRON_TOKEN" "https://$CLOUDRON_DOMAIN/api/v1/network/blocklist" --data '{"blocklist":"# Spammy network\n10.244.0.0/16"}'
                

                as per: https://docs.cloudron.io/api.html#tag/Network/operation/setBlockList

                girishG
                girishG
                girish
                Staff
                wrote on last edited by
                #24

                @necrevistonnezr it's a "Newline separated list of IP entries" . So, it can be # Spammy network\n10.244.0.0/16\n1.2.3.4\n3.4.5.6\n172.4.0.0/16

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                • girishG girish

                  @necrevistonnezr it's a "Newline separated list of IP entries" . So, it can be # Spammy network\n10.244.0.0/16\n1.2.3.4\n3.4.5.6\n172.4.0.0/16

                  necrevistonnezrN
                  necrevistonnezrN
                  necrevistonnezr
                  Super Fan
                  wrote on last edited by necrevistonnezr
                  #25

                  @girish I guess there's no mechanism to avoid duplicate entries when using the "setBlockList" operation, correct?

                  In general, I guess something like this should work:

                  #!/bin/bash
                  curl https://www.ipdeny.com/ipblocks/data/countries/kz.zone --output iplist.txt
                  while read -r line; do
                      curl -X POST -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Authorization: Bearer $CLOUDRON_TOKEN" "https://$CLOUDRON_DOMAIN/api/v1/network/blocklist" --data $line"
                  done < iplist.txt
                  rm iplist.txt
                  

                  I don't have know yet how to avoid duplicates in the database..

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                  • imc67I
                    imc67I
                    imc67
                    translator Super Fan
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #26

                    It should be default functionality to have country block/allow in the Cloudron GUI just like all Synology NAS’s have. It’s 2023 and too dangerous to have everything accessible for everyone. That’s why many Cloudron users (read the forum) are using Cloudflare for this kind of functionality (like I have to do).

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                    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr referenced this topic on
                    • imc67I imc67

                      It should be default functionality to have country block/allow in the Cloudron GUI just like all Synology NAS’s have. It’s 2023 and too dangerous to have everything accessible for everyone. That’s why many Cloudron users (read the forum) are using Cloudflare for this kind of functionality (like I have to do).

                      girishG
                      girishG
                      girish
                      Staff
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      @imc67 IMO, the correct place to implement this is in the network firewall. Most Cloud providers already have a firewall feature and they can then implement this firewall rule at the edge of the network instead of the server itself.

                      I have a Synology router (not NAS) at home. I just use their blocklists. For home setups, the router is the correct place for this. Otherwise, you allow all traffic to come into your home and then it gets rejected by the server wasting cpu and network traffic.

                      That said, I understand why this feature is being requested here instead - no cloud network firewall has this feature. And most likely cloud providers don't listen to our suggestions 😕

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                      • girishG girish

                        @imc67 IMO, the correct place to implement this is in the network firewall. Most Cloud providers already have a firewall feature and they can then implement this firewall rule at the edge of the network instead of the server itself.

                        I have a Synology router (not NAS) at home. I just use their blocklists. For home setups, the router is the correct place for this. Otherwise, you allow all traffic to come into your home and then it gets rejected by the server wasting cpu and network traffic.

                        That said, I understand why this feature is being requested here instead - no cloud network firewall has this feature. And most likely cloud providers don't listen to our suggestions 😕

                        robiR
                        robiR
                        robi
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #28

                        @girish IME it's a custom support request for the network operator to put those filters on for your IP(s).

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                        • d19dotcaD
                          d19dotcaD
                          d19dotca
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #29

                          Is it possible to improve / add the IP block list feature to Cloudron in 8.0?

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                          Dustin Dauncey
                          www.d19.ca

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                          • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                            @girish I guess there's no mechanism to avoid duplicate entries when using the "setBlockList" operation, correct?

                            In general, I guess something like this should work:

                            #!/bin/bash
                            curl https://www.ipdeny.com/ipblocks/data/countries/kz.zone --output iplist.txt
                            while read -r line; do
                                curl -X POST -H "Content-Type: application/json" -H "Authorization: Bearer $CLOUDRON_TOKEN" "https://$CLOUDRON_DOMAIN/api/v1/network/blocklist" --data $line"
                            done < iplist.txt
                            rm iplist.txt
                            

                            I don't have know yet how to avoid duplicates in the database..

                            imc67I
                            imc67I
                            imc67
                            translator Super Fan
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            @necrevistonnezr said in Firewall / Spamassassin: Automatic list update:

                            I guess something like this should work

                            Did you managed it to get it worked like that?

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                            • imc67I imc67

                              @necrevistonnezr said in Firewall / Spamassassin: Automatic list update:

                              I guess something like this should work

                              Did you managed it to get it worked like that?

                              necrevistonnezrN
                              necrevistonnezrN
                              necrevistonnezr
                              Super Fan
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #31

                              @imc67 No, as I don’t know how to avoid duplicates in the database - I don’t want to fill up a database with a hard entry limit with nonsense

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                              • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                @imc67 No, as I don’t know how to avoid duplicates in the database - I don’t want to fill up a database with a hard entry limit with nonsense

                                imc67I
                                imc67I
                                imc67
                                translator Super Fan
                                wrote on last edited by imc67
                                #32

                                @necrevistonnezr I gave it a try with some help by ChatGPT and it works flawless!! Except the API can't handle large list where the GUI is able to handle without an issue.

                                The script automatically downloads all the geo lists in an array, creates a copy/paste file for the GUI and then prepares the file in JSON style and connect/upload via API.

                                When I choose only a few countries is works perfect, however when choosing all the desired ones:

                                @girish @nebulon I get a line 83: /usr/bin/curl: Argument list too long

                                I can copy/paste the full list in the GUI, it takes some time but it uploads and settles all IP ranges (about 87k)

                                Does anyone know how to do this via the API?

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                                • imc67I imc67

                                  @necrevistonnezr I gave it a try with some help by ChatGPT and it works flawless!! Except the API can't handle large list where the GUI is able to handle without an issue.

                                  The script automatically downloads all the geo lists in an array, creates a copy/paste file for the GUI and then prepares the file in JSON style and connect/upload via API.

                                  When I choose only a few countries is works perfect, however when choosing all the desired ones:

                                  @girish @nebulon I get a line 83: /usr/bin/curl: Argument list too long

                                  I can copy/paste the full list in the GUI, it takes some time but it uploads and settles all IP ranges (about 87k)

                                  Does anyone know how to do this via the API?

                                  robiR
                                  robiR
                                  robi
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #33

                                  @imc67 Since it works from the browser, you should be able to inspect the API calls in the browser console.

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                                  • imc67I imc67

                                    @necrevistonnezr I gave it a try with some help by ChatGPT and it works flawless!! Except the API can't handle large list where the GUI is able to handle without an issue.

                                    The script automatically downloads all the geo lists in an array, creates a copy/paste file for the GUI and then prepares the file in JSON style and connect/upload via API.

                                    When I choose only a few countries is works perfect, however when choosing all the desired ones:

                                    @girish @nebulon I get a line 83: /usr/bin/curl: Argument list too long

                                    I can copy/paste the full list in the GUI, it takes some time but it uploads and settles all IP ranges (about 87k)

                                    Does anyone know how to do this via the API?

                                    girishG
                                    girishG
                                    girish
                                    Staff
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #34

                                    @imc67 said in Firewall / Spamassassin: Automatic list update:

                                    @girish @nebulon I get a line 83: /usr/bin/curl: Argument list too long

                                    this is related to curl . I don't know the answer but you can look for posts similar to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54090784/curl-argument-list-too-long where you have to pass the args as a file instead of on the command line itself.

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                                    • girishG girish

                                      @imc67 said in Firewall / Spamassassin: Automatic list update:

                                      @girish @nebulon I get a line 83: /usr/bin/curl: Argument list too long

                                      this is related to curl . I don't know the answer but you can look for posts similar to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54090784/curl-argument-list-too-long where you have to pass the args as a file instead of on the command line itself.

                                      imc67I
                                      imc67I
                                      imc67
                                      translator Super Fan
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #35

                                      @girish said in Firewall / Spamassassin: Automatic list update:

                                      https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54090784/curl-argument-list-too-long

                                      I tried that in the beginning but got this error:

                                      {
                                        "status": "Bad Request",
                                        "message": "blocklist must be a string"
                                      }
                                      
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                                      • robiR robi

                                        @imc67 Since it works from the browser, you should be able to inspect the API calls in the browser console.

                                        imc67I
                                        imc67I
                                        imc67
                                        translator Super Fan
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #36

                                        @robi I did a check and somehow the browser is able to do a POST with the huge string ... 😵

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                                        • imc67I
                                          imc67I
                                          imc67
                                          translator Super Fan
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #37

                                          Again ChatGPT did it!!! It's really unbelievable how "patient" it is and after keep trying all it's variants (after feedback the errors) and asking if there is another way except curl it came with wget and after the second try it worked!

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