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Unable to set 4 GB of service memory limits, only get 3.75 or 4.25 GB, also allows double memory than system available

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  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

    @nebulon said in Redis Memory Limit: possibility to write value:

    Given that this is just the upper limit and even then the allocated limit might end up slightly different anyways for the real container,

    I don't fully understand this.

    @nebulon said in Redis Memory Limit: possibility to write value:

    it doesn't make too much sense to give exact values.

    Maybe so (although I still don't really understand why not), but it does make sense to improve what is currently really rather bad UX.

    Myself and quite a few others (see e.g. here and here) have I think mentioned the difficulty in selecting the values we want quite a few times previously and it still bugs me every time I have to do it.

    Perhaps just add some little up/ down arrows the allow it to be moved in small increments or something? 🤷

    Either way, whilst I agree it's not that important in the overall scheme of things, it remains frustrating, and in contrast to the rest of Cloudron which generally has a really nice smooth UX 🙂

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    @jdaviescoates said in Redis Memory Limit: possibility to write value:

    Perhaps just add some little up/ down arrows the allow it to be moved in small increments or something?

    Very good advice... up/down will be much more better

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    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

      @nebulon said in Redis Memory Limit: possibility to write value:

      Given that this is just the upper limit and even then the allocated limit might end up slightly different anyways for the real container,

      I don't fully understand this.

      @nebulon said in Redis Memory Limit: possibility to write value:

      it doesn't make too much sense to give exact values.

      Maybe so (although I still don't really understand why not), but it does make sense to improve what is currently really rather bad UX.

      Myself and quite a few others (see e.g. here and here) have I think mentioned the difficulty in selecting the values we want quite a few times previously and it still bugs me every time I have to do it.

      Perhaps just add some little up/ down arrows the allow it to be moved in small increments or something? 🤷

      Either way, whilst I agree it's not that important in the overall scheme of things, it remains frustrating, and in contrast to the rest of Cloudron which generally has a really nice smooth UX 🙂

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      @jdaviescoates said in Redis Memory Limit: possibility to write value:

      Perhaps just add some little up/ down arrows the allow it to be moved in small increments or something? 🤷

      I like this idea too. I am not sure where we picked this bizzare slider from 😄

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        In my CAD software, the sliders can be clicked on, and then you can manually enter a value. The best of both worlds. Maybe we can implement this method.

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        • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

          In my CAD software, the sliders can be clicked on, and then you can manually enter a value. The best of both worlds. Maybe we can implement this method.

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          @humptydumpty Do you have a screenshot you can share?

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            Sure. Uno momento.

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              I can't upload a MP4 video (less than 1mb). Not enough permission. In the video it shows an alternative method where you can click on the slider and input a value.

              Here's a screenshot showing a slider in default state and when it's clicked on.

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              I found an online website to conver the mp4 to gif!

              slider_backend.gif

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                @d19dotca Months ago I suggested to make those values editable... I agree: is frustrating.

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                  I think most UI points are already touched on in the other forum thread @p44 linked. So lets treat the original thread as the feature request. I will merge this into the other then.

                  For the memory limit as such, this is just the upper limit and not some memory allocation. Also the limit is half RAM and half swap, thus "doubling" effect. And well, exact values do help probably with OCD triggering, but otherwise it has no real impact for the system itself 🙂

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                  • nebulonN nebulon

                    I think most UI points are already touched on in the other forum thread @p44 linked. So lets treat the original thread as the feature request. I will merge this into the other then.

                    For the memory limit as such, this is just the upper limit and not some memory allocation. Also the limit is half RAM and half swap, thus "doubling" effect. And well, exact values do help probably with OCD triggering, but otherwise it has no real impact for the system itself 🙂

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                    @nebulon said in Unable to set 4 GB of service memory limits, only get 3.75 or 4.25 GB, also allows double memory than system available:

                    just the upper limit

                    @nebulon said in Unable to set 4 GB of service memory limits, only get 3.75 or 4.25 GB, also allows double memory than system available:

                    no real impact for the system itself

                    I still don't really get this statement you keep repeating.

                    Surely the upper limit does have a real impact, in that it sets the upper limit, which effects the upper limit of how much RAM an app can use, no? 🤔 (and hence the whole point of having the setting in the first place, and why one has to increase the limit when apps keep running out of memory)

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      The comment was about the value itself, a couple of megabytes lower or higher won't have any practical impact on the system, especially not if the system has a lot of memory.

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                      • nebulonN nebulon

                        The comment was about the value itself, a couple of megabytes lower or higher won't have any practical impact on the system, especially not if the system has a lot of memory.

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                        @nebulon OK, but in the "Unable to set 4 GB of service memory limits, only get 3.75 or 4.25 GB" example 250MB is more than "a couple", and lots of people don't have lots of RAM as most people are running the cheapest VPS they can.

                        (although personally I've currently got a server with more RAM than I use and so have given up on my OCD about this and just randomly click any higher number when an app runs out of ram, a better UX is clearly needed and the lack of it causing frustration)

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        • nebulonN nebulon

                          I think most UI points are already touched on in the other forum thread @p44 linked. So lets treat the original thread as the feature request. I will merge this into the other then.

                          For the memory limit as such, this is just the upper limit and not some memory allocation. Also the limit is half RAM and half swap, thus "doubling" effect. And well, exact values do help probably with OCD triggering, but otherwise it has no real impact for the system itself 🙂

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                          @nebulon I’m not sure I understand… if my server had 128 GB to set, why does Cloudron allow me to set nearly 256 GB? That doesn’t make sense to me.

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                          Dustin Dauncey
                          www.d19.ca

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