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  • F froodle

    HI all,
    Im frooodle the creator of Stirling-PDF
    We are currently redesigning the UI for Stirling-PDF and wanted to get any thoughts and recommendations on the UI change.
    We currently have a docker image frooodle/s-pdf:testNewDesign
    But also just a test website up here for people to try
    http://stirlingpdf.io:8088/ (or http://185.252.234.121:8088/ if Domain doesnt work)

    Please let me know what you think, there is a new on hover Tools navbar and cleaner headers and logos on each page with other tweeks to general interface

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    marcusquinn
    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    @froodle Nice work!

    Personally, I'l prefer a toggle for a List View, if not too much to ask.

    think the icons would benefit from a rounded box around them, to make them more like app icon buttons.

    Lastly, not sure if it works from the UI, but drag & drop for uploading files to process would be super cool ๐Ÿ™‚

    Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
    Development https://brandlight.org
    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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      nebulon
      Staff
      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      At least here the links to the new design demo shows quite something else at least at the moment. So it went through a few redesigns?

      image.png

      Personally I prefer the screenshot @necrevistonnezr had posted initially, much less noisy.

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      • nebulonN nebulon

        At least here the links to the new design demo shows quite something else at least at the moment. So it went through a few redesigns?

        image.png

        Personally I prefer the screenshot @necrevistonnezr had posted initially, much less noisy.

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        necrevistonnezr
        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        @nebulon That was a screenshot from Acrobat ๐Ÿ˜‰ ....

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          nebulon
          Staff
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          oh wow thanks for the clarification!

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            lancer
            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            good to testing

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            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

              @froodle Nice work!

              Personally, I'l prefer a toggle for a List View, if not too much to ask.

              think the icons would benefit from a rounded box around them, to make them more like app icon buttons.

              Lastly, not sure if it works from the UI, but drag & drop for uploading files to process would be super cool ๐Ÿ™‚

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              froodle
              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              @marcusquinn toggle for list view is a good idea, ill add to todo list, this new UI update just released by the way

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                froodle
                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                Live once cloudron updates* ๐Ÿ™‚

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                  froodle
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  Be thankful its not the v0.1.0 design from like 2 years ago ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  image.png

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                  • F froodle

                    Be thankful its not the v0.1.0 design from like 2 years ago ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    image.png

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                    marcusquinn
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    @froodle Great stuff! Any plans to get into the whole AI "Chat with your PDFs?

                    Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                    Development https://brandlight.org
                    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                    • F froodle

                      @necrevistonnezr I dislike our grouping but I think that one doesnt make full sense either... I am not sure what the perfect order of things is at the moment.
                      At least we have a favouriting system and searchbar to help ๐Ÿ™‚

                      (Although i do think our homepage needs some grouping now that each function is coloured)

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                      necrevistonnezr
                      wrote on last edited by necrevistonnezr
                      #14

                      @froodle said in New UI Sneak peak and review:

                      @necrevistonnezr I dislike our grouping but I think that one doesnt make full sense either... I am not sure what the perfect order of things is at the moment.

                      How about the following categories:

                      Multi-Tools
                      • PDF Multi Tool
                      • Pipeline
                      Edit Layout
                      • Organize
                      • Remove
                      • Merge
                      • Multi-Page Layout
                      • Split
                      • Split PDF by Sections
                      • Auto Split Pages
                      • Auto Split by Size/Count
                      • Extract page(s)
                      • Rotate
                      • Crop PDF
                      • Adjust page size/scale
                      • Single Large Page
                      • Remove Blank pages
                      • Overlay PDFs
                      Edit Content
                      • Add image
                      • Add Page Numbers
                      • Add Watermark
                      • Add Stamp to PDF
                      • Change Metadata
                      • Remove Annotations
                      • Flatten
                      OCR / Scan
                      • OCR / Cleanup scans
                      • Detect/Split Scanned photos
                      • Adjust Colors/Contrast
                      Convert
                      • Convert file to PDF
                      • Image to PDF
                      • HTML to PDF
                      • Markdown to PDF
                      • URL/Website To PDF
                      • PDF to Image
                      • PDF to HTML
                      • PDF to Word
                      • PDF to Presentation
                      • PDF to CSV
                      • PDF to RTF (Text)
                      • PDF to PDF/A
                      • PDF to XML
                      • Compress
                      • Extract Images
                      Protection & Security
                      • Add Password
                      • Remove Password
                      • Change Permissions
                      • Auto Redact
                      • Sanitize
                      • Show Javascript
                      Sign
                      • Sign
                      • Sign with Certificate
                      Other
                      • View PDF
                      • Repair
                      • Compare
                      • Auto Rename PDF File
                      • Get ALL Info on PDF
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                        osobo
                        wrote on last edited by osobo
                        #15

                        Dear Cloudron @staff,
                        Stirling PDF with new GUI worked fine for me up to version 2.11.0
                        But with today's update to version 2.11.1 all the icons are gone... ๐Ÿ˜ง
                        Did I missed something ?
                        Thank you for your support

                        Capture d'รฉcran 2024-05-22 143218.png
                        Capture d'รฉcran 2024-05-22 144351.png

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                        • osoboO osobo

                          Dear Cloudron @staff,
                          Stirling PDF with new GUI worked fine for me up to version 2.11.0
                          But with today's update to version 2.11.1 all the icons are gone... ๐Ÿ˜ง
                          Did I missed something ?
                          Thank you for your support

                          Capture d'รฉcran 2024-05-22 143218.png
                          Capture d'รฉcran 2024-05-22 144351.png

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                          necrevistonnezr
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          @osobo said in New UI Sneak peak and review:

                          Dear Cloudron @staff,
                          Stirling PDF with new GUI was working fine for me up to version 2.11.0
                          But with today's update to version 2.11.1 all the icons are gone... ๐Ÿ˜ง
                          Did I missed something ?
                          Thank you for your support

                          Works fine for me here in Edge / Brave. Maybe a browser cache issue? A privacy / adblock extension?

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                          • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                            @osobo said in New UI Sneak peak and review:

                            Dear Cloudron @staff,
                            Stirling PDF with new GUI was working fine for me up to version 2.11.0
                            But with today's update to version 2.11.1 all the icons are gone... ๐Ÿ˜ง
                            Did I missed something ?
                            Thank you for your support

                            Works fine for me here in Edge / Brave. Maybe a browser cache issue? A privacy / adblock extension?

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                            osobo
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            @necrevistonnezr Thanks for your feedback. You're right ! I've cleared the cache and ... voila ๐Ÿ™‚
                            Capture d'รฉcran 2024-05-22 150809.png

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                            • necrevistonnezrN Offline
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                              necrevistonnezr
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              Ah, I see that under "Tools" there's already some categorization? Or is that new?

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                              • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                Ah, I see that under "Tools" there's already some categorization? Or is that new?

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                                froodle
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                @necrevistonnezr no it's been that way ever since the demo etc I showed earlier ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                                  froodle
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  In original post I mentioned
                                  "Please let me know what you think, there is a new on hover Tools navbar" refering to this

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                                  • F froodle

                                    @necrevistonnezr no it's been that way ever since the demo etc I showed earlier ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                                    necrevistonnezr
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #21

                                    @froodle said in New UI Sneak peak and review:

                                    @necrevistonnezr no it's been that way ever since the demo etc I showed earlier ๐Ÿ˜‚

                                    And there I was, trying to re-invent the wheel.... ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                                      dev-cb
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #22

                                      @froodle thanks for the work. Great application and very useful in daily use!

                                      But the latest UI changes feel a bit imbalanced to me and less organized. I think the biggest driver for that feeling is the border-radius of the icon boxes and the cards. Inconsistencies in sizing and spacing of the icons as well as too less padding for the icons also add to the feeling that somethingโ€™s off.
                                      The considerably strong stroke-width of the icons in comparison to the light font-weight of the tool titles does rather separating icon and text than connecting them visually to one item.
                                      Also the border-width of the cards is visually too strong. Reducing the border-width or lighten the border-color. By the way, also noticeable inconsistencies in the border-widths (0.1rem in the search input vs. 2px icon cards).

                                      Sounds quite harsh, meant as constructive feedback ๐Ÿ™‚

                                      I quickly sketched the changes in the dev inspect tool and saved the changes. Here is the comparison and the adjustments. Hope this is helping you to find the right balance!

                                      original:
                                      Bildschirmfoto 2024-05-22 um 18.35.00.png

                                      adjusted:
                                      Bildschirmfoto 2024-05-22 um 18.35.05.png

                                      diff --git a/pdf/css/bootstrap.min.css b/pdf/css-edit/bootstrap.min.css
                                      index 5cfa298..d262c73 100644
                                      --- a/pdf/css/bootstrap.min.css	
                                      +++ b/pdf/css-edit/bootstrap.min.css	
                                      @@ -4389,12 +4389,13 @@ fieldset:disabled .btn {
                                       }
                                       
                                       .nav-link {
                                      -  display: block;
                                      +  display: flex;
                                         padding: 0.5rem 1rem;
                                         color: #0d6efd;
                                         text-decoration: none;
                                         transition: color 0.15s ease-in-out, background-color 0.15s ease-in-out,
                                           border-color 0.15s ease-in-out;
                                      +  align-items: center;
                                       }
                                       
                                       @media (prefers-reduced-motion: reduce) {
                                      diff --git a/pdf/css/home.css? b/pdf/css-edit/home.css?
                                      index a6f89ed..91a0204 100644
                                      --- a/pdf/css/home.css?	
                                      +++ b/pdf/css-edit/home.css?	
                                      @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
                                         font-size: 16px;
                                         margin-bottom: 2rem;
                                         padding: 0.75rem 3.5rem;
                                      -  border: 0.1rem solid var(--md-sys-color-outline-variant);
                                      +  border: 1px solid var(--md-sys-color-outline-variant);
                                         border-radius: 3rem;
                                         outline-color: var(--md-sys-color-outline-variant);
                                       }
                                      @@ -19,12 +19,12 @@
                                       .features-container {
                                         display: grid;
                                         grid-template-columns: repeat(auto-fill, minmax(15rem, 3fr));
                                      -  gap: 25px 30px;
                                      +  gap: 30px 30px;
                                       }
                                       
                                       .feature-card {
                                      -  border: 2px solid var(--md-sys-color-surface-5);
                                      -  border-radius: 2rem;
                                      +  border: 1px solid var(--md-sys-color-surface-5);
                                      +  border-radius: 1.75rem;
                                         padding: 1.25rem;
                                         display: flex;
                                         flex-direction: column;
                                      @@ -47,13 +47,13 @@
                                       }
                                       
                                       .feature-card .card-text {
                                      -  flex: 1;
                                      +  font-size: .875rem;
                                       }
                                       
                                       .feature-card:hover {
                                         cursor: pointer;
                                      -  transform: scale(1.1);
                                      -  box-shadow: var(--md-sys-elevation-3);
                                      +  transform: scale(1.025);
                                      +  box-shadow: var(--md-sys-elevation-2);
                                       }
                                       
                                       .card-title.text-primary {
                                      @@ -79,11 +79,12 @@
                                       }
                                       
                                       #tool-text {
                                      -  margin: 0.5rem 0.5rem 0rem;
                                      +  margin: 0.0rem 0 0 1.25rem;
                                       }
                                       
                                       .card-title {
                                         margin-bottom: 1rem;
                                      +  font-size: 1rem;
                                       }
                                       
                                       /* Only show the favorite icons when the parent card is being hovered over */
                                      diff --git a/pdf/css/navbar.css? b/pdf/css-edit/navbar.css?
                                      index ddeab5a..a8845f2 100644
                                      --- a/pdf/css/navbar.css?	
                                      +++ b/pdf/css-edit/navbar.css?	
                                      @@ -75,7 +75,7 @@
                                       }
                                       
                                       .icon-text {
                                      -  margin-left: 4px;
                                      +  margin-left: 8px;
                                         margin-right: 4px;
                                         display: inline-flex;
                                         flex-direction: column;
                                      diff --git a/pdf/css/theme/componentes.css? b/pdf/css-edit/theme/componentes.css?
                                      index d767d59..6318212 100644
                                      --- a/pdf/css/theme/componentes.css?	
                                      +++ b/pdf/css-edit/theme/componentes.css?	
                                      @@ -187,8 +187,8 @@ td {
                                       .feature-card .nav-icon {
                                         vertical-align: middle;
                                         font-size: 2rem !important;
                                      -  padding: 0.5rem;
                                      -  border-radius: 1.25rem;
                                      +  padding: 0.75rem;
                                      +  border-radius: 0.9rem;
                                         color: var(--md-sys-color-surface);
                                       }
                                       
                                      diff --git a/pdf/css/theme/font.css b/pdf/css-edit/theme/font.css
                                      index dfb1c1b..f245dd3 100644
                                      --- a/pdf/css/theme/font.css	
                                      +++ b/pdf/css-edit/theme/font.css	
                                      @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@
                                       
                                       .material-symbols-rounded {
                                           font-family: 'Material Symbols Rounded';
                                      -    font-weight: normal;
                                      +    font-weight: 300;
                                           font-style: normal;
                                           font-size: 24px;
                                           line-height: 1;
                                      diff --git a/pdf/css/theme/theme.css? b/pdf/css-edit/theme/theme.css?
                                      index 3c9565d..4f7be33 100644
                                      --- a/pdf/css/theme/theme.css?	
                                      +++ b/pdf/css-edit/theme/theme.css?	
                                      @@ -30,5 +30,5 @@
                                       }
                                       
                                       .no-fill {
                                      -  font-variation-settings: var(--md-sys-icon-fill-0);
                                      +  /* font-variation-settings: var(--md-sys-icon-fill-0); */
                                       }
                                      \ No newline at end of file
                                      
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                                      • osoboO osobo

                                        @necrevistonnezr Thanks for your feedback. You're right ! I've cleared the cache and ... voila ๐Ÿ™‚
                                        Capture d'รฉcran 2024-05-22 150809.png

                                        dev-cbD Offline
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                                        dev-cb
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #23

                                        @osobo said in New UI Sneak peak and review:

                                        @necrevistonnezr Thanks for your feedback. You're right ! I've cleared the cache and ... voila ๐Ÿ™‚
                                        Capture d'รฉcran 2024-05-22 150809.png

                                        Also here in the menu noticeable: The icons and their colorful boxes show some indecisiveness in terms of the spacing, sizing and border-radius. They are almost a circle, but not yet. Or in other peoples eyes almost rounded rectangles. In design should be no doubt, always decisions ๐Ÿ™‚

                                        Bildschirmfoto 2024-05-22 um 19.12.07.png Bildschirmfoto 2024-05-22 um 19.11.56.png

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                                        • dev-cbD dev-cb

                                          @froodle thanks for the work. Great application and very useful in daily use!

                                          But the latest UI changes feel a bit imbalanced to me and less organized. I think the biggest driver for that feeling is the border-radius of the icon boxes and the cards. Inconsistencies in sizing and spacing of the icons as well as too less padding for the icons also add to the feeling that somethingโ€™s off.
                                          The considerably strong stroke-width of the icons in comparison to the light font-weight of the tool titles does rather separating icon and text than connecting them visually to one item.
                                          Also the border-width of the cards is visually too strong. Reducing the border-width or lighten the border-color. By the way, also noticeable inconsistencies in the border-widths (0.1rem in the search input vs. 2px icon cards).

                                          Sounds quite harsh, meant as constructive feedback ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          I quickly sketched the changes in the dev inspect tool and saved the changes. Here is the comparison and the adjustments. Hope this is helping you to find the right balance!

                                          original:
                                          Bildschirmfoto 2024-05-22 um 18.35.00.png

                                          adjusted:
                                          Bildschirmfoto 2024-05-22 um 18.35.05.png

                                          diff --git a/pdf/css/bootstrap.min.css b/pdf/css-edit/bootstrap.min.css
                                          index 5cfa298..d262c73 100644
                                          --- a/pdf/css/bootstrap.min.css	
                                          +++ b/pdf/css-edit/bootstrap.min.css	
                                          @@ -4389,12 +4389,13 @@ fieldset:disabled .btn {
                                           }
                                           
                                           .nav-link {
                                          -  display: block;
                                          +  display: flex;
                                             padding: 0.5rem 1rem;
                                             color: #0d6efd;
                                             text-decoration: none;
                                             transition: color 0.15s ease-in-out, background-color 0.15s ease-in-out,
                                               border-color 0.15s ease-in-out;
                                          +  align-items: center;
                                           }
                                           
                                           @media (prefers-reduced-motion: reduce) {
                                          diff --git a/pdf/css/home.css? b/pdf/css-edit/home.css?
                                          index a6f89ed..91a0204 100644
                                          --- a/pdf/css/home.css?	
                                          +++ b/pdf/css-edit/home.css?	
                                          @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
                                             font-size: 16px;
                                             margin-bottom: 2rem;
                                             padding: 0.75rem 3.5rem;
                                          -  border: 0.1rem solid var(--md-sys-color-outline-variant);
                                          +  border: 1px solid var(--md-sys-color-outline-variant);
                                             border-radius: 3rem;
                                             outline-color: var(--md-sys-color-outline-variant);
                                           }
                                          @@ -19,12 +19,12 @@
                                           .features-container {
                                             display: grid;
                                             grid-template-columns: repeat(auto-fill, minmax(15rem, 3fr));
                                          -  gap: 25px 30px;
                                          +  gap: 30px 30px;
                                           }
                                           
                                           .feature-card {
                                          -  border: 2px solid var(--md-sys-color-surface-5);
                                          -  border-radius: 2rem;
                                          +  border: 1px solid var(--md-sys-color-surface-5);
                                          +  border-radius: 1.75rem;
                                             padding: 1.25rem;
                                             display: flex;
                                             flex-direction: column;
                                          @@ -47,13 +47,13 @@
                                           }
                                           
                                           .feature-card .card-text {
                                          -  flex: 1;
                                          +  font-size: .875rem;
                                           }
                                           
                                           .feature-card:hover {
                                             cursor: pointer;
                                          -  transform: scale(1.1);
                                          -  box-shadow: var(--md-sys-elevation-3);
                                          +  transform: scale(1.025);
                                          +  box-shadow: var(--md-sys-elevation-2);
                                           }
                                           
                                           .card-title.text-primary {
                                          @@ -79,11 +79,12 @@
                                           }
                                           
                                           #tool-text {
                                          -  margin: 0.5rem 0.5rem 0rem;
                                          +  margin: 0.0rem 0 0 1.25rem;
                                           }
                                           
                                           .card-title {
                                             margin-bottom: 1rem;
                                          +  font-size: 1rem;
                                           }
                                           
                                           /* Only show the favorite icons when the parent card is being hovered over */
                                          diff --git a/pdf/css/navbar.css? b/pdf/css-edit/navbar.css?
                                          index ddeab5a..a8845f2 100644
                                          --- a/pdf/css/navbar.css?	
                                          +++ b/pdf/css-edit/navbar.css?	
                                          @@ -75,7 +75,7 @@
                                           }
                                           
                                           .icon-text {
                                          -  margin-left: 4px;
                                          +  margin-left: 8px;
                                             margin-right: 4px;
                                             display: inline-flex;
                                             flex-direction: column;
                                          diff --git a/pdf/css/theme/componentes.css? b/pdf/css-edit/theme/componentes.css?
                                          index d767d59..6318212 100644
                                          --- a/pdf/css/theme/componentes.css?	
                                          +++ b/pdf/css-edit/theme/componentes.css?	
                                          @@ -187,8 +187,8 @@ td {
                                           .feature-card .nav-icon {
                                             vertical-align: middle;
                                             font-size: 2rem !important;
                                          -  padding: 0.5rem;
                                          -  border-radius: 1.25rem;
                                          +  padding: 0.75rem;
                                          +  border-radius: 0.9rem;
                                             color: var(--md-sys-color-surface);
                                           }
                                           
                                          diff --git a/pdf/css/theme/font.css b/pdf/css-edit/theme/font.css
                                          index dfb1c1b..f245dd3 100644
                                          --- a/pdf/css/theme/font.css	
                                          +++ b/pdf/css-edit/theme/font.css	
                                          @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@
                                           
                                           .material-symbols-rounded {
                                               font-family: 'Material Symbols Rounded';
                                          -    font-weight: normal;
                                          +    font-weight: 300;
                                               font-style: normal;
                                               font-size: 24px;
                                               line-height: 1;
                                          diff --git a/pdf/css/theme/theme.css? b/pdf/css-edit/theme/theme.css?
                                          index 3c9565d..4f7be33 100644
                                          --- a/pdf/css/theme/theme.css?	
                                          +++ b/pdf/css-edit/theme/theme.css?	
                                          @@ -30,5 +30,5 @@
                                           }
                                           
                                           .no-fill {
                                          -  font-variation-settings: var(--md-sys-icon-fill-0);
                                          +  /* font-variation-settings: var(--md-sys-icon-fill-0); */
                                           }
                                          \ No newline at end of file
                                          
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                                          froodle
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #24

                                          @dev-cb I love all these changes! Please consider raising this as a PR so I can give proper credit

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