Implement Hetzner Object Storage as backup destination

[jayonrails]

Hi,

Hetzner is running a beta test for Hetzner Object Storage, an S3-compatible storage solution.

Docs: https://docs.hetzner.com/storage/object-storage/
Announcement: https://forum.hetzner.com/index.php?thread/31369-we-re-thrilled-to-announce-a-new-storage-solution-an-s3-compatible-object-storag/&postID=304604#post304604

The product is open beta, you need a Hetzner Cloud account and ask for permission to join. Hetzner Object Storage is free until the end of October 2024, thereafter billing starts as described hereı.

@nebulon @girish is there any possibility to implement this within the next 1-2 updates?

I have tried using it with the backup provider "S3 API Compatible (v4)", but it didn't work.

I am getting the error "Error listing objects. Message: null HTTP Code: NoSuchKey", therefore it is not working right now.

If needed I am happy to share some credentials for a bucket and cover the costs on Hetzner side for developing this feature.

Best
Jay

[humptydumpty]

+1 from me! I'd like to give backing up Nextcloud a try (+300GB) and see how it fares. Currently having issues with Backblaze.

[andreasdueren]

@jayonrails When did that error occur? Seems to mount it just fine at least. But I didn't run a full backup.

[jayonrails]

I came up when I was trying to mount it. Could you share a screenshot of your settings? (DM are open)

[andreasdueren]

@jayonrails I've used these:

Endpoint: fsn1.your-objectstorage.com
Bucket: Bucket Name
Region: left empty
Access Key and secret access key: as per Hetzner
Storage Format: rsync
Encryption password: yes
Encrypt filenames: no

[jayonrails]

@andreasdueren said in Implement Hetzner Object Storage as backup destination:

@jayonrails I've used these:

Thanks for letting me know, I will try.

[jayonrails]

After trying for a few days, it works perfectly fine.

I will add this to the documentation when Hetzner S3 Storage is available publicly.

[jdaviescoates]

What would be the advantages (if any) to using S3 instead of their Storage Boxes (which if I've understood correctly are cheaper)?

[nebulon]

At least from a Cloudron backup implementation perspective, the Storage Boxes would always be more efficient with using the SSHFS backend, since it can to backup rotation on the server itself by running commands via SSH directly.

[Kubernetes]

Are the Hetzner S3 Backups running fine on your servers? On my Cloudron the first backup works, but all following backups fails after several "Retrying (1) multipart copy of cloudron/snapshot/app_1fd4bcdf-5f88-4d92-8769-43521695a827.tar.gz.enc. Error: 504: null 504" . Sometimes a second backup works, but not often. The app is Nextcloud App.

[mave]

I tried Hetzner S3. Several backups failed with eror like this:
"Upload error: code: InvalidRange message: null".

Sorry, my fault. Choosed the wrong S3-profil. First S3 compat., didn't see extra entry "Hetzner Object Storage").

Now it worked and i'll take look on daily usage.

[Kubernetes]

I updated Cloudron to latest Version with Hetzner S3 support, but the backups still failing. So I reverted back again to my main backup target.

[matix131997]

On the server where I have Nextcloud installed and backed up to Object Storage to Nuremberg and works fine. I will also give the settings from Memory Limit and Upload Part Size.

If you have servers in Falkenstein or Nuremberg and you send to Helsinki or vice versa then there maybe problems, because there is a broken fiber optic cable by probably by sabotage.