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    • jimcavoli
      jimcavoli App Dev last edited by

      With all the activity on this thread, is it likely that Bitwarden will see release in the App Store any time soon? Even as an "unstable" package for easier trial by others?

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      • girish
        girish Staff last edited by

        @jimcavoli We will take this up next week since we are working on getting 4.2 out this week. Will follow up with @iamthefij on what the status is.

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        • iamthefij
          iamthefij App Dev @girish last edited by

          @girish it should be good to go. My branch is working with MySQL and LDAP.

          I've got two working Dockerfiles. One that compiles the entire project and another that just pulls the binary from the published images on Docker Hub. End result is the same.

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          • L
            lukaszj last edited by

            Hello @girish is there any progress with releasing Bitwarden to App Store? Thanks!

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            • girish
              girish Staff last edited by

              Unfortunately, not this week. The 4.2 release hit some hiccups. Good news is that we are rolling out 4.2 as we speak. So, we should get to this next week.

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                lukaszj @girish last edited by

                @girish Great, can't wait. Fingers crossed!

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                • iamthefij
                  iamthefij App Dev @girish last edited by

                  @girish great to hear! Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

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                  • necrevistonnezr
                    necrevistonnezr last edited by

                    Again, there's trouble with cloudron cli. I tried to login but it gives me the following errors:

                    cloudron login --allow-selfsigned
                    Cloudron Admin Domain: my.domain.com
                    ERROR (node:51749) Warning: Setting the NODE_TLS_REJECT_UNAUTHORIZED environment variable to '0' makes TLS connections and HTTPS requests insecure by disabling certificate verification. [ internal/process/warning.js:27:3 ]
                    ERROR Cloudron my.domain.com not found.
                    Try providing the admin location, probably my.my.domain.com [ /Users/user/.nvm/versions/node/v12.7.0/lib/node_modules/cloudron/src/helper.js:71:29 ]
                    

                    What am I doing wrong?

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                    • girish
                      girish Staff last edited by

                      @necrevistonnezr You almost never have to use --allow-selfsigned Does my.domain.com have the correct cert?

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                      • necrevistonnezr
                        necrevistonnezr @girish last edited by necrevistonnezr

                        @girish Yes, the situation is the same with or without "--allow-selfsigned"
                        BTW I'm on macOS 10.15

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                        • girish
                          girish Staff last edited by

                          @necrevistonnezr Can you try using the CLI on the demo cloudron? Like:

                          cloudron login my.demo.cloudron.io
                          

                          username and password is cloudron. you can then build and install there. does that entire flow work?

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                          • necrevistonnezr
                            necrevistonnezr @girish last edited by

                            @girish that gives me the same error but pinging works

                            bitwardenrs-app on master [!?] via ⬢ v12.7.0
                            ➜ cloudron login my.cloudron.io
                            ERROR (node:55034) Warning: Setting the NODE_TLS_REJECT_UNAUTHORIZED environment variable to '0' makes TLS connections and HTTPS requests insecure by disabling certificate verification. [ internal/process/warning.js:27:3 ]
                            ERROR Cloudron my.cloudron.io not found.
                            Try providing the admin location, probably my.my.cloudron.io [ /Users/kdj/.nvm/versions/node/v12.7.0/lib/node_modules/cloudron/src/helper.js:71:29 ]
                            bitwardenrs-app on master [!?] via ⬢ v12.7.0 took 18s
                            ➜ ping my.cloudron.io
                            PING my.cloudron.io (45.55.2.141): 56 data bytes
                            64 bytes from 45.55.2.141: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=188.063 ms
                            64 bytes from 45.55.2.141: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=181.041 ms
                            64 bytes from 45.55.2.141: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=237.531 ms
                            
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                            • L
                              lukaszj last edited by

                              Hi @girish is there any update re pushing official Bitwarden to Marketplace? Thanks.

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                              • girish
                                girish Staff last edited by

                                @lukaszj No ETA but it's on our immediate list. Currently, we are pushing out the release that makes it possible to build custom apps without our build service.

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                                • L
                                  lukaszj @girish last edited by

                                  @girish Thanks.

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                                  • murgero
                                    murgero App Dev @girish last edited by

                                    @girish But building apps without the build service is already possible - do you mean that the manifest will allow us to specify a repo and docker image to install? Cause that would be nice!

                                    --
                                    https://urgero.org
                                    ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~
                                    Matrix: @murgero:urgero.org

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                                    • girish
                                      girish Staff last edited by

                                      Just started looking into getting this package published. I also found a related https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs/pull/677 .

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                                      • iamthefij
                                        iamthefij App Dev @girish last edited by

                                        @girish I'd be neat if that gets merged, but the maintainers rejected a previous patch for direct LDAP support and that's why it was moved to a different binary. See comments here: https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs/pull/396#issuecomment-464059020

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                                        • iamthefij
                                          iamthefij App Dev last edited by

                                          Hey @girish any updates on this? I've been holding off on migrating from my external instance to my Cloudron one because I'm not sure about the process of migrating from the dev one to an official one. Any guidance on when to expect this or if it's possible to preserve the Docker volume would be helpful.

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                                          • W
                                            will last edited by

                                            @iamthefij said in Bitwarden - Self-hosted password manager:

                                            Hey @girish any updates on this? I've been holding off on migrating from my external instance to my Cloudron one because I'm not sure about the process of migrating from the dev one to an official one. Any guidance on when to expect this or if it's possible to preserve the Docker volume would be helpful.

                                            I'm in the same boat. I am maintaining a VPS solely for Bitwarden access. Would save $10 a month and time if I could roll this out! Thanks for all the hard work!

                                            I tried deploying the Cloudron Bitwarden like below:

                                            Commands run on Cloudron server.

                                            git clone https://git.cloudron.io/fbartels/bitwardenrs-app #Successfully clones to home directory
                                            npm install -g cloudron-cli **#Command fails, no cloudron-cli **
                                            cloudron build # this will ask your cloudron.io login #Never got to this stage
                                            cloudron install # this will ask you for your cloudron's login #Never got to this stage

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                                            • murgero
                                              murgero App Dev @will last edited by

                                              @will Those commands do NOT get ran on the cloudron server.

                                              The cloudron CLI is ONLY for use outside of the server (it's the management tool for cli users)

                                              At home, install virtualbox on your computer and create an ubuntu VM. (If you already have a computer with linux, ignore this step, these steps can be installed in windows if you install nodejs and git first)

                                              Then run:

                                              git clone https://git.cloudron.io/fbartels/bitwardenrs-app
                                              cd bitwardenrs-app
                                              ## Install NodeJS from https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/
                                              npm install -g cloudron
                                              cloudron build
                                              cloudron install
                                              

                                              --
                                              https://urgero.org
                                              ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~
                                              Matrix: @murgero:urgero.org

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                                              • W
                                                will @murgero last edited by

                                                @murgero Thanks! I'm running windows subsystem for linux so I'll give it a shot. Thanks again!

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                                                • murgero
                                                  murgero App Dev @will last edited by

                                                  @will If you plan on building apps using a local docker install, that can only be done on linux (not the subsystem), otherwise using a build service (either the app one or cloudron's cloud build service) is good on any system with nodejs support

                                                  --
                                                  https://urgero.org
                                                  ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~
                                                  Matrix: @murgero:urgero.org

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                                                  • W
                                                    will @murgero last edited by

                                                    @murgero I'm not a developer, but I have stumbled my way through rough spots before. Just so I understand the workflow.
                                                    So lets say I want to deploy the Bitwarden app on my Cloudron instance in production (I don't but let's roll with it for a sec)
                                                    I would configure my dev environment (install Nodejs, cloudron-cli, and install Cloudron build service app on the Web Store)
                                                    I would clone the app I wanted to play with to my local dev machine, cd into that directory and use the cloudron build command to bush this app to the Cloudron Build Service App?
                                                    Lastly use the cloudron install command to install the app on to my production instance.
                                                    How close am I to the right answer? 😰

                                                    Thanks again for taking the time out to help me out. I'm trying to understand this stuff, but it's way out of my swimlane.

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                                                    • murgero
                                                      murgero App Dev @will last edited by murgero

                                                      @will I don't use the build service app because it can delete other apps mistakenly. I use the following process for building my apps (step by step, literally) using a local linux machine with Docker, npm, git, and cloudron-cli.

                                                      Just make sure you have a free dockerhub account 🙂

                                                      git clone https://github.com/mitchellurgero/cloudron-vscode
                                                      cd cloudron-vscode
                                                      
                                                      ## Change as you need!
                                                      docker build -t dockername/projectname:tagname .
                                                      docker push dockername/projectname:tagname
                                                      
                                                      ## End docker changes
                                                      cloudron login
                                                      cloudron install --image dockerhuburl/dockername/projectname:tagname
                                                      

                                                      Example commands when replacing the variables with real items:

                                                      git clone https://github.com/murgero/MyApp1-cloudron
                                                      cd MyApp1-cloudron
                                                      
                                                      ## Change as you need!
                                                      docker build -t murgero/MyApp1:latest .
                                                      docker push murgero/MyApp1:latest
                                                      
                                                      ## End docker changes
                                                      cloudron login
                                                      cloudron install --image dockerhuburl/murgero/MyApp1:latest
                                                      

                                                      --
                                                      https://urgero.org
                                                      ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~
                                                      Matrix: @murgero:urgero.org

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                                                      • iamthefij
                                                        iamthefij App Dev last edited by

                                                        FYI @murgero @will I don’t think that git repo has any of the fixes or changes I’ve added. Try the one I linked much earlier. (I’m on mobile so I can’t link it now).

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                                                        • fbartels
                                                          fbartels App Dev @murgero last edited by fbartels

                                                          @murgero building is much easier now. when you call cloudron build it will ask for the registry to upload to. so you just have to enter your-username/your-chosen-name-for-the image, e.g. fbartels/cloudron-bitwardenrs. cloudron install will then automatically use this image.

                                                          @will I am still not a huge believer in the ldap sync and the mysql backend of bitwarden. I have updated my repo to the last version and also picked some smtp things from @iamthefij. Sending invites still does not seem to work, will need to look further into this.

                                                          Edit: Managed to fix the issue with sending invites. the value of SMTP_AUTH_MECHANISM needs to be quoted, but when exporting it, these quotes are normally removed. Working and up to date version is in the git repo.

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                                                          • iamthefij
                                                            iamthefij App Dev @fbartels last edited by

                                                            @fbartels what issues are you having with the LDAP sync?

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                                                            • fbartels
                                                              fbartels App Dev @iamthefij last edited by

                                                              @iamthefij its not a technical problem, the approach isn't bad either. I think both (LDAP and MySQL) simply add unneeded complexity.

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                                                              • murgero
                                                                murgero App Dev @fbartels last edited by

                                                                @fbartels said in Bitwarden - Self-hosted password manager:

                                                                building is much easier now. when you call cloudron build it will ask for the registry to upload to. so you just have to enter your-username/your-chosen-name-for-the image, e.g. fbartels/cloudron-bitwardenrs. cloudron install will then automatically use this image.

                                                                This requires the build service app to be installed on your cloudron which currently has a warning attached to it that it may delete USED docker images from other apps. Until the build service app is more stable, I'll stick to my sure-fire, tried and true way 🙂

                                                                --
                                                                https://urgero.org
                                                                ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~
                                                                Matrix: @murgero:urgero.org

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                                                                • fbartels
                                                                  fbartels App Dev @murgero last edited by

                                                                  @murgero said in Bitwarden - Self-hosted password manager:

                                                                  This requires the build service app to be installed on your cloudron

                                                                  That is not true. Its build locally and then pushed into the github account.

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                                                                  • iamthefij
                                                                    iamthefij App Dev @fbartels last edited by

                                                                    @fbartels I see. Yea, totally agree that it’s not really necessary for most folks usage. The instance I run outside of Cloudron today uses neither of them. I’m using it as a simple personal password manager.

                                                                    I believe Cloudron tends to prefer configurations that are ready for a small enterprise. My personal Gogs server was fine with SQLite and local auth as well, but Cloudron is configured with MySQL and LDAP.

                                                                    🤷‍♂️

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                                                                    • yusf
                                                                      yusf last edited by

                                                                      I think it’s important to scale for at least 50 intended users for Cloudron apps. I think that this number is even specified in the docs somewhere.

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                                                                      • necrevistonnezr
                                                                        necrevistonnezr @fbartels last edited by

                                                                        @fbartels said in Bitwarden - Self-hosted password manager:

                                                                        @murgero said in Bitwarden - Self-hosted password manager:

                                                                        This requires the build service app to be installed on your cloudron

                                                                        That is not true. Its build locally and then pushed into the github account.

                                                                        When I try to update my bitwarden app at the existing domain 'bit.mydomain.de' this way, I still get a

                                                                        Failed to install app: 409 message: Domain 'bit.mydomain.de' is in use
                                                                        

                                                                        I have a wildcard DNS entry), so a DNS entry for the subdomain should not cause trouble. I also tried cloudron login --allow-selfsigned but it doesn't change anything.

                                                                        Could the "version" entry in CloudronManifest.jsonbe the culprit?

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                                                                        • fbartels
                                                                          fbartels App Dev @necrevistonnezr last edited by

                                                                          @necrevistonnezr said in Bitwarden - Self-hosted password manager:

                                                                          Could the "version" entry in CloudronManifest.jsonbe the culprit?

                                                                          No, at least not from my experience. It always depends from where you installed an app previously. So for example when you initially installed an app from the official appcenter you can not easily update it with a locally build app. To make it recognize an existing app you can add the --app parameter to the install command.

                                                                          So e.g. cloudron update --app bit

                                                                          But make sure that the applications are actually compatible with each other.

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                                                                          • necrevistonnezr
                                                                            necrevistonnezr last edited by

                                                                            Still gettin errors:

                                                                            osboxes@osboxes:~/bitwardenrs-app$ cloudron update --app bit
                                                                            Will update app at location bit
                                                                             => Waiting for app to be updated 
                                                                             => Starting ... ...
                                                                             => Backup - Snapshotting app bit.mydomain.de ..
                                                                             => Backup - undefined 
                                                                             => Downloading image ...........................................
                                                                            App update error: Installation failed: undefined
                                                                            
                                                                            osboxes@osboxes:~/bitwardenrs-app$ sudo cloudron update --app bit
                                                                            Will update app at location bit
                                                                            Failed to update app: 409 message: Not allowed in error state
                                                                            
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                                                                            • fbartels
                                                                              fbartels App Dev @necrevistonnezr last edited by

                                                                              @necrevistonnezr it seems to fail at downloading the image, so it has nothing to do with the app per se.

                                                                              Can you also post the output of cloudron build?

                                                                              Maybe it could also help to remove the existing app before (but since it fails at downloading I would doubt that).

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                                                                              • necrevistonnezr
                                                                                necrevistonnezr last edited by

                                                                                Output of cloudron build:

                                                                                Building locally as necrevistonnezr/bitwardenrs:20191210-094936-34576695f
                                                                                
                                                                                Sending build context to Docker daemon  114.2kB
                                                                                
                                                                                Step 1/28 : FROM "bitwardenrs/server:1.13.0-alpine" as bitwarden
                                                                                 ---> c0f785714c65
                                                                                Step 2/28 : FROM cloudron/base:1.0.0@sha256:147a648a068a2e746644746bbfb42eb7a50d682437cead3c67c933c546357617
                                                                                 ---> 534bd0efda10
                                                                                Step 3/28 : ENV ROCKET_ENV "staging"
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 08e348a2d671
                                                                                Step 4/28 : ENV ROCKET_PORT=3000
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 4f829684eb90
                                                                                Step 5/28 : ENV ROCKET_WORKERS=10
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 4c341fbb8b34
                                                                                Step 6/28 : ENV DATA_FOLDER=/app/data
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 624de75507eb
                                                                                Step 7/28 : ENV CONFIG_FILE=/app/data/config.json
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> df63ce28a824
                                                                                Step 8/28 : ENV SIGNUPS_ALLOWED=false
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 98489eda2ecf
                                                                                Step 9/28 : ENV INVITATIONS_ALLOWED=true
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 363bd3b89949
                                                                                Step 10/28 : ENV WEBSOCKET_ENABLED=true
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> c3ab1f3b150c
                                                                                Step 11/28 : ENV DISABLE_ADMIN_TOKEN=true
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 57d590406e2c
                                                                                Step 12/28 : RUN mkdir -p /app/data
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> bf796d6b68b4
                                                                                Step 13/28 : VOLUME /app/data
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> af0388a6c7c5
                                                                                Step 14/28 : EXPOSE 80
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> c4e5fc4eef9c
                                                                                Step 15/28 : EXPOSE 3012
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 0d3be2006979
                                                                                Step 16/28 : RUN rm /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 128658526e5f
                                                                                Step 17/28 : RUN sed -e 's,^ErrorLog.*,ErrorLog "|/bin/cat",' -i /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 460b63a85e66
                                                                                Step 18/28 : RUN a2disconf other-vhosts-access-log
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> b660416c4b47
                                                                                Step 19/28 : COPY apache.conf /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/bitwarden.conf
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 380066c29b0c
                                                                                Step 20/28 : RUN a2enmod ldap authnz_ldap proxy proxy_http proxy_wstunnel rewrite
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 5d85bcdb4449
                                                                                Step 21/28 : COPY --from=bitwarden /web-vault /app/code/web-vault
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 8c8e6cd0a79a
                                                                                Step 22/28 : COPY --from=bitwarden /bitwarden_rs /app/code/
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 23aa34133bc8
                                                                                Step 23/28 : COPY --from=bitwarden /Rocket.toml /app/code/
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 16d854c4cdb4
                                                                                Step 24/28 : ADD supervisor/ /etc/supervisor/conf.d/
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 94e6be8b3e39
                                                                                Step 25/28 : RUN sed -e 's,^logfile=.*$,logfile=/run/supervisord.log,' -i /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> a4b630549d9e
                                                                                Step 26/28 : WORKDIR /app/code
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> ac66a3410991
                                                                                Step 27/28 : COPY start.sh /app/code/start.sh
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> 8fee6c91fd4a
                                                                                Step 28/28 : CMD [ "/app/code/start.sh" ]
                                                                                 ---> Using cache
                                                                                 ---> ebd0cc6480c9
                                                                                Successfully built ebd0cc6480c9
                                                                                Successfully tagged necrevistonnezr/bitwardenrs:20191210-094936-34576695f
                                                                                
                                                                                Pushing necrevistonnezr/bitwardenrs:20191210-094936-34576695f
                                                                                The push refers to repository [docker.io/necrevistonnezr/bitwardenrs]
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                                                                                And how do I get past the 409 message: Not allowed in error state?

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                                                                                • fbartels
                                                                                  fbartels App Dev last edited by

                                                                                  I don't know enough about the internal workings of cloudron to give a definite answer, but from what I see I would guess your first install failed (because it could seemingly not fetch the right image) and now the app is in a failed state.

                                                                                  One way to get out of this is to try restore an earlier backup (but it also said => Backup - undefined ) so its unclear if one exists, or remove the app and start anew.

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                                                                                  • necrevistonnezr
                                                                                    necrevistonnezr last edited by

                                                                                    Thanks for the hint. In the control panel, I have the following error:

                                                                                    An error occurred during the operation: Docker Error: Unable to pull image. Please check the network or if the image needs authentication. statusCode: 404
                                                                                    
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                                                                                    • necrevistonnezr
                                                                                      necrevistonnezr last edited by

                                                                                      Stupid me! My docker repository was set to private!
                                                                                      Once made public - at least for the time of updating - a simple click on "repair" in the Cloudron control panel was enough!

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                                                                                      • fbartels
                                                                                        fbartels App Dev @necrevistonnezr last edited by

                                                                                        @necrevistonnezr then this here in the settings would probably be helpful for you: 5acc412e-8e7d-4e98-9c2b-b3ca716e1ccc-image.png

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                                                                                          moonmeister last edited by

                                                                                          For those using this. Does/will it support 2FA, and what kind? I'm mostly interested in Yubikey support. Thanks.

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                                                                                          • iamthefij
                                                                                            iamthefij App Dev last edited by

                                                                                            Yes. It supports a variety of 2FA including YubiKey.

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                                                                                            • d19dotca
                                                                                              d19dotca last edited by

                                                                                              Happy New Year everybody! 🙂

                                                                                              Just learned how to deploy a custom app using Bitwarden as the test, but seeing as it should be delivered soon, figured I'd wait for the more official release. So on that note... is there any ETA yet for this app @girish or @nebulon by any chance? If it's going to be a month or two I may start with the custom app, but figured if it'd be just another week or two (or just less than a month), then I'll just wait it out.

                                                                                              Thanks again for all the work you guys do - including everyone else in this thread, as I was able to learn a lot from reviewing everything you all wrote! 🙂

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                                                                                              www.d19.ca

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                                                                                              • girish
                                                                                                girish Staff last edited by girish

                                                                                                Sorry for the delay, back to working on getting this published.

                                                                                                As a prelude, I have written to the upstream project to see if there is a chance of getting bitwarden (the .net project) working with a database other than MSSQL. As it stands, Cloudron cannot run the main project in a supported fashion.

                                                                                                Now for Bitwarden Rust, I built @iamthefij's project and it works great.

                                                                                                The current LDAP integration will essentially sync periodically and auto-invite users. I think this is awesome. However, Cloudron has a few limitations:

                                                                                                1. Apps are installed with 'all users' by default. This would mean all users on Cloudron will get invited/get email on installation. @iamthefij Maybe we can add a flag to not send email even if smtp is configured? My understanding is that this way LDAP users first have to 'create account' to get themselves an invite. Non-LDAP users won't get an invite. (https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs/wiki/Syncing-users-from-LDAP)

                                                                                                2. I guess we should disable users somewhere in https://github.com/ViViDboarder/bitwarden_rs_ldap/blob/master/src/main.rs#L107 when users go away from LDAP?

                                                                                                If 1 is not possible, I am also open to publishing the app without LDAP integrated directly. i.e we just include the binary and add docs to tell the user to run the command from the web terminal. That way they are aware email is going to be sent.

                                                                                                For 2, if you think that is outside the scope of an "invitation" system, then I think we should disable the ldap addon but include the bitwarden_ldap binary (this is just to be consistent with all our other apps wrt access control). We can add something in Cloudron to get credentials to the ldap server. That way, user can run the binary with the credentials directly.

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                                                                                                • d19dotca
                                                                                                  d19dotca @girish last edited by

                                                                                                  @girish Do all users on the system automatically get invited? I didn't see that in my experience when I deployed the same app the other day, I had to manually invite myself through the /admin panel. I'm going to be a bit embarrassed if all my clients on the server got an email invite without me knowing 😬

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                                                                                                  Dustin Dauncey
                                                                                                  www.d19.ca

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                                                                                                  • rmdes
                                                                                                    rmdes @d19dotca last edited by

                                                                                                    @d19dotca other LDAP enabled apps never invite anyone and don't even create the profile/user before that particular user actually login..not sure if that answer your use case..

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                                                                                                    • girish
                                                                                                      girish Staff last edited by girish

                                                                                                      My understanding of the way it works is: Each Bitwarden user has a "master" password (also the login password). This password is set by a user when they setup their account (via an invitation email - this is the only way to finish account setup). There is no mechanism to create a user with a pre-setup password (like changeme) on the server. This is because all the encryption/key generation happens on the clients. The clients get the master password, generate keys etc and just send it to the server.

                                                                                                      What this means is that Cloudron/LDAP password cannot be used as a login mechanism for Bitwarden. What the LDAP integration in the current Cloudron package does is to basically get the list of all users in Cloudron via LDAP and just sends them invitation emails (it does this periodically). This way each user can click on the invitation email, setup a master password and start using Bitwarden. Because Cloudron apps are installed with "all users" access restriction as the default, this would mean that the LDAP integration sends invitation email to all Cloudron users. In addition, if you change Cloudron/LDAP password or even delete the user in Cloudron, there is no effect in Bitwarden. This is quite different from how all other apps behave.

                                                                                                      @d19dotca does that clarify?

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                                                                                                      • iamthefij
                                                                                                        iamthefij App Dev last edited by iamthefij

                                                                                                        Should be possible, like some other apps, to have the option of enabling automatic invites or forego it.

                                                                                                        Technically, user management is local to the application. Invites is all that is really happening.

                                                                                                        It should also be possible to silently invite users. This means that any user can sign up in the application directly as long as their email has been added to the invite list. May have to patch the core application for that, but certainly doable. If this sounds preferable, I can look into that.

                                                                                                        As for disabling customers, it should also be possible. It was also planned, but just not implemented yet. Disabling does sound risky though as cutting off access to a password manager could be extremely disruptive.

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                                                                                                        • d19dotca
                                                                                                          d19dotca @girish last edited by

                                                                                                          @girish Yes I think that clarifies then. Thank you for explaining it. I thought from your earlier post you meant that all LDAP users registered on the Cloudron server would automatically be invited to use Bitwarden and I was worried there for a second. haha. My experience is what you explained most recently in that the invite needs to be manually done through the Bitwarden admin area.

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                                                                                                          www.d19.ca

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                                                                                                          • fbartels
                                                                                                            fbartels App Dev @iamthefij last edited by

                                                                                                            @iamthefij said in Bitwarden - Self-hosted password manager:

                                                                                                            This means that any user can sign up in the application directly as long as their email has been added to the invite list.

                                                                                                            I think there was already an option to only allow signups from specific mail domains.

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                                                                                                            • iamthefij
                                                                                                              iamthefij App Dev @fbartels last edited by

                                                                                                              @fbartels yes. You can whitelist an entire domain. That will not allow whitelisting particular people on that domain though. So group or other constraints that we get with LDAP integration would not be supported.

                                                                                                              The issue is that by default if sending mail is enabled Bitwarden will send an invite email with a particular invite code for any newly invited user: https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs/blob/88c56de97b48bb5b9b8af350d0d0e0d5f080ff0e/src/api/admin.rs#L163

                                                                                                              An option to suppress this without disabling email entirely would allow whitelisting (and possibly revoking) users based on an LDAP query.

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                                                                                                              • iamthefij
                                                                                                                iamthefij App Dev last edited by

                                                                                                                As a short term, I can enable the optionalSso manifest option and disable LDAP integration when the user specifies.

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                                                                                                                • iamthefij
                                                                                                                  iamthefij App Dev last edited by iamthefij

                                                                                                                  And done. Just pushed an update that allows disabling of SSO entirely and should fall back to the administrator manually inviting folks via the /admin page. I have not had a chance to test this though.

                                                                                                                  https://git.cloudron.io/iamthefij/bitwardenrs-app

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                                                                                                                  • girish
                                                                                                                    girish Staff last edited by

                                                                                                                    @iamthefij That was quick. Can you put in a LICENSE file into the repo (preferably MIT like the other app packages), so I can get this pushed to unstable?

                                                                                                                    The optionalSso still has the issue that it will trick people into thinking it behaves like other LDAP apps. I think Cloudron needs to have some enhancement here to make the UX work reliably. For a start, I can push it out with LDAP syncing in place (i.e a person who wants to can run the tool manually from the terminal) but ldap addon removed.

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                                                                                                                    • iamthefij
                                                                                                                      iamthefij App Dev @girish last edited by

                                                                                                                      @girish they won't be able to run it on a schedule, will they? If it was possible to schedule that, it would be great.

                                                                                                                      I just made some more updates to the Description to explain user management. I also updated the env variables set so they can be overridden by users (through the DB, CLI, or some new interface) to allow open signups, block invites, or whitelist a particular domain.

                                                                                                                      I can also add an MIT license file as long as @fbartels agrees, since I based it on his repo.

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                                                                                                                      • fbartels
                                                                                                                        fbartels App Dev @iamthefij last edited by

                                                                                                                        @iamthefij said in Bitwarden - Self-hosted password manager:

                                                                                                                        I can also add an MIT license file as long as @fbartels agrees, since I based it on his repo.

                                                                                                                        Almost forgot to reply here. I have added a license file to my repo now. So when you rebase yours you should get it as well.

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                                                                                                                          will @fbartels last edited by

                                                                                                                          @fbartels you are the man!

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                                                                                                                          • iamthefij
                                                                                                                            iamthefij App Dev last edited by

                                                                                                                            Awesome! Thanks @fbartels!

                                                                                                                            I've merged your changes in, switched back to the single stage build for speed (possible now that MySQL support is offered in a Docker image), and updated the Readme and Changelog.

                                                                                                                            I believe this "works for me" but someone else should validate as well.

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