Bitwarden - Self-hosted password manager

[iamthefij]

@fbartels I see. Yea, totally agree that it’s not really necessary for most folks usage. The instance I run outside of Cloudron today uses neither of them. I’m using it as a simple personal password manager.

I believe Cloudron tends to prefer configurations that are ready for a small enterprise. My personal Gogs server was fine with SQLite and local auth as well, but Cloudron is configured with MySQL and LDAP.

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[yusf]

I think it’s important to scale for at least 50 intended users for Cloudron apps. I think that this number is even specified in the docs somewhere.

[necrevistonnezr]

@fbartels said in Bitwarden - Self-hosted password manager:

@murgero said in Bitwarden - Self-hosted password manager:

This requires the build service app to be installed on your cloudron

That is not true. Its build locally and then pushed into the github account.

When I try to update my bitwarden app at the existing domain 'bit.mydomain.de' this way, I still get a

Failed to install app: 409 message: Domain 'bit.mydomain.de' is in use

I have a wildcard DNS entry), so a DNS entry for the subdomain should not cause trouble. I also tried cloudron login --allow-selfsigned but it doesn't change anything.

Could the "version" entry in CloudronManifest.jsonbe the culprit?

[fbartels]

@necrevistonnezr said in Bitwarden - Self-hosted password manager:

Could the "version" entry in CloudronManifest.jsonbe the culprit?

No, at least not from my experience. It always depends from where you installed an app previously. So for example when you initially installed an app from the official appcenter you can not easily update it with a locally build app. To make it recognize an existing app you can add the --app parameter to the install command.

So e.g. cloudron update --app bit

But make sure that the applications are actually compatible with each other.

[necrevistonnezr]

Still gettin errors:

osboxes@osboxes:~/bitwardenrs-app$ cloudron update --app bit
Will update app at location bit
 => Waiting for app to be updated 
 => Starting ... ...
 => Backup - Snapshotting app bit.mydomain.de ..
 => Backup - undefined 
 => Downloading image ...........................................
App update error: Installation failed: undefined

osboxes@osboxes:~/bitwardenrs-app$ sudo cloudron update --app bit
Will update app at location bit
Failed to update app: 409 message: Not allowed in error state

[fbartels]

@necrevistonnezr it seems to fail at downloading the image, so it has nothing to do with the app per se.

Can you also post the output of cloudron build?

Maybe it could also help to remove the existing app before (but since it fails at downloading I would doubt that).

[necrevistonnezr]

Output of cloudron build:

Building locally as necrevistonnezr/bitwardenrs:20191210-094936-34576695f

Sending build context to Docker daemon  114.2kB

Step 1/28 : FROM "bitwardenrs/server:1.13.0-alpine" as bitwarden
 ---> c0f785714c65
Step 2/28 : FROM cloudron/base:1.0.0@sha256:147a648a068a2e746644746bbfb42eb7a50d682437cead3c67c933c546357617
 ---> 534bd0efda10
Step 3/28 : ENV ROCKET_ENV "staging"
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 08e348a2d671
Step 4/28 : ENV ROCKET_PORT=3000
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 4f829684eb90
Step 5/28 : ENV ROCKET_WORKERS=10
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 4c341fbb8b34
Step 6/28 : ENV DATA_FOLDER=/app/data
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 624de75507eb
Step 7/28 : ENV CONFIG_FILE=/app/data/config.json
 ---> Using cache
 ---> df63ce28a824
Step 8/28 : ENV SIGNUPS_ALLOWED=false
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 98489eda2ecf
Step 9/28 : ENV INVITATIONS_ALLOWED=true
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 363bd3b89949
Step 10/28 : ENV WEBSOCKET_ENABLED=true
 ---> Using cache
 ---> c3ab1f3b150c
Step 11/28 : ENV DISABLE_ADMIN_TOKEN=true
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 57d590406e2c
Step 12/28 : RUN mkdir -p /app/data
 ---> Using cache
 ---> bf796d6b68b4
Step 13/28 : VOLUME /app/data
 ---> Using cache
 ---> af0388a6c7c5
Step 14/28 : EXPOSE 80
 ---> Using cache
 ---> c4e5fc4eef9c
Step 15/28 : EXPOSE 3012
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 0d3be2006979
Step 16/28 : RUN rm /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 128658526e5f
Step 17/28 : RUN sed -e 's,^ErrorLog.*,ErrorLog "|/bin/cat",' -i /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 460b63a85e66
Step 18/28 : RUN a2disconf other-vhosts-access-log
 ---> Using cache
 ---> b660416c4b47
Step 19/28 : COPY apache.conf /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/bitwarden.conf
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 380066c29b0c
Step 20/28 : RUN a2enmod ldap authnz_ldap proxy proxy_http proxy_wstunnel rewrite
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 5d85bcdb4449
Step 21/28 : COPY --from=bitwarden /web-vault /app/code/web-vault
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 8c8e6cd0a79a
Step 22/28 : COPY --from=bitwarden /bitwarden_rs /app/code/
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 23aa34133bc8
Step 23/28 : COPY --from=bitwarden /Rocket.toml /app/code/
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 16d854c4cdb4
Step 24/28 : ADD supervisor/ /etc/supervisor/conf.d/
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 94e6be8b3e39
Step 25/28 : RUN sed -e 's,^logfile=.*$,logfile=/run/supervisord.log,' -i /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf
 ---> Using cache
 ---> a4b630549d9e
Step 26/28 : WORKDIR /app/code
 ---> Using cache
 ---> ac66a3410991
Step 27/28 : COPY start.sh /app/code/start.sh
 ---> Using cache
 ---> 8fee6c91fd4a
Step 28/28 : CMD [ "/app/code/start.sh" ]
 ---> Using cache
 ---> ebd0cc6480c9
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And how do I get past the 409 message: Not allowed in error state?

[fbartels]

I don't know enough about the internal workings of cloudron to give a definite answer, but from what I see I would guess your first install failed (because it could seemingly not fetch the right image) and now the app is in a failed state.

One way to get out of this is to try restore an earlier backup (but it also said => Backup - undefined ) so its unclear if one exists, or remove the app and start anew.

[necrevistonnezr]

Thanks for the hint. In the control panel, I have the following error:

An error occurred during the operation: Docker Error: Unable to pull image. Please check the network or if the image needs authentication. statusCode: 404

[necrevistonnezr]

Stupid me! My docker repository was set to private!
Once made public - at least for the time of updating - a simple click on "repair" in the Cloudron control panel was enough!

[fbartels]

@necrevistonnezr then this here in the settings would probably be helpful for you:

[moonmeister]

For those using this. Does/will it support 2FA, and what kind? I'm mostly interested in Yubikey support. Thanks.

[iamthefij]

Yes. It supports a variety of 2FA including YubiKey.

[d19dotca]

Happy New Year everybody!

Just learned how to deploy a custom app using Bitwarden as the test, but seeing as it should be delivered soon, figured I'd wait for the more official release. So on that note... is there any ETA yet for this app @girish or @nebulon by any chance? If it's going to be a month or two I may start with the custom app, but figured if it'd be just another week or two (or just less than a month), then I'll just wait it out.

Thanks again for all the work you guys do - including everyone else in this thread, as I was able to learn a lot from reviewing everything you all wrote!

[girish]

Sorry for the delay, back to working on getting this published.

As a prelude, I have written to the upstream project to see if there is a chance of getting bitwarden (the .net project) working with a database other than MSSQL. As it stands, Cloudron cannot run the main project in a supported fashion.

Now for Bitwarden Rust, I built @iamthefij's project and it works great.

The current LDAP integration will essentially sync periodically and auto-invite users. I think this is awesome. However, Cloudron has a few limitations:

1. Apps are installed with 'all users' by default. This would mean all users on Cloudron will get invited/get email on installation. @iamthefij Maybe we can add a flag to not send email even if smtp is configured? My understanding is that this way LDAP users first have to 'create account' to get themselves an invite. Non-LDAP users won't get an invite. (https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs/wiki/Syncing-users-from-LDAP)

2. I guess we should disable users somewhere in https://github.com/ViViDboarder/bitwarden_rs_ldap/blob/master/src/main.rs#L107 when users go away from LDAP?

If 1 is not possible, I am also open to publishing the app without LDAP integrated directly. i.e we just include the binary and add docs to tell the user to run the command from the web terminal. That way they are aware email is going to be sent.

For 2, if you think that is outside the scope of an "invitation" system, then I think we should disable the ldap addon but include the bitwarden_ldap binary (this is just to be consistent with all our other apps wrt access control). We can add something in Cloudron to get credentials to the ldap server. That way, user can run the binary with the credentials directly.

[d19dotca]

@girish Do all users on the system automatically get invited? I didn't see that in my experience when I deployed the same app the other day, I had to manually invite myself through the /admin panel. I'm going to be a bit embarrassed if all my clients on the server got an email invite without me knowing

[rmdes]

@d19dotca other LDAP enabled apps never invite anyone and don't even create the profile/user before that particular user actually login..not sure if that answer your use case..

[girish]

My understanding of the way it works is: Each Bitwarden user has a "master" password (also the login password). This password is set by a user when they setup their account (via an invitation email - this is the only way to finish account setup). There is no mechanism to create a user with a pre-setup password (like changeme) on the server. This is because all the encryption/key generation happens on the clients. The clients get the master password, generate keys etc and just send it to the server.

What this means is that Cloudron/LDAP password cannot be used as a login mechanism for Bitwarden. What the LDAP integration in the current Cloudron package does is to basically get the list of all users in Cloudron via LDAP and just sends them invitation emails (it does this periodically). This way each user can click on the invitation email, setup a master password and start using Bitwarden. Because Cloudron apps are installed with "all users" access restriction as the default, this would mean that the LDAP integration sends invitation email to all Cloudron users. In addition, if you change Cloudron/LDAP password or even delete the user in Cloudron, there is no effect in Bitwarden. This is quite different from how all other apps behave.

@d19dotca does that clarify?

[iamthefij]

Should be possible, like some other apps, to have the option of enabling automatic invites or forego it.

Technically, user management is local to the application. Invites is all that is really happening.

It should also be possible to silently invite users. This means that any user can sign up in the application directly as long as their email has been added to the invite list. May have to patch the core application for that, but certainly doable. If this sounds preferable, I can look into that.

As for disabling customers, it should also be possible. It was also planned, but just not implemented yet. Disabling does sound risky though as cutting off access to a password manager could be extremely disruptive.

[d19dotca]

@girish Yes I think that clarifies then. Thank you for explaining it. I thought from your earlier post you meant that all LDAP users registered on the Cloudron server would automatically be invited to use Bitwarden and I was worried there for a second. haha. My experience is what you explained most recently in that the invite needs to be manually done through the Bitwarden admin area.