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      nebulon
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      Plex is a client-server media player system and software suite comprising two main components.

      • The Plex Media Server either running on Windows, macOS, Linux, FreeBSD or a NAS which organizes audio (music) and visual (photos and videos) content from personal media libraries and streams it to their player counterparts.

      • The players can either be the Plex Apps available for mobile devices, smart TVs, and streaming boxes, or the web UI of the Plex Media Server called Plex Web App, or the old Plex player called Plex Home Theater.

      https://www.plex.tv

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        I think something similar would be great but Plex itself is not free software.

        Ampache and airsonic seems a better option...but yes limited to music.

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          Hi, is there currently any way to run a Plex server alongside or in Cloudron, where the server is only available in the local network (it does not have to be reachable over the net...)

          If I manually install Plex server, I can't reach the web-ui on port 32400.

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          • avatar1024A avatar1024

            I think something similar would be great but Plex itself is not free software.

            Ampache and airsonic seems a better option...but yes limited to music.

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            @avatar1024 Libresonic then? I believe that supports video and audio streaming?

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            • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

              Hi, is there currently any way to run a Plex server alongside or in Cloudron, where the server is only available in the local network (it does not have to be reachable over the net...)

              If I manually install Plex server, I can't reach the web-ui on port 32400.

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              @necrevistonnezr said in Plex Media Server:

              Hi, is there currently any way to run a Plex server alongside or in Cloudron, where the server is only available in the local network (it does not have to be reachable over the net...)

              If I manually install Plex server, I can't reach the web-ui on port 32400.

              That would be because cloudron manages the system firewall. Does it have to be plex? I was thinking of working on getting Ampache or Libresonic working as a cloudron app specifically to address this.

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              https://urgero.org
              ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~

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              • murgeroM murgero

                @necrevistonnezr said in Plex Media Server:

                Hi, is there currently any way to run a Plex server alongside or in Cloudron, where the server is only available in the local network (it does not have to be reachable over the net...)

                If I manually install Plex server, I can't reach the web-ui on port 32400.

                That would be because cloudron manages the system firewall. Does it have to be plex? I was thinking of working on getting Ampache or Libresonic working as a cloudron app specifically to address this.

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                @murgero Unfortunately yes, because my TV OS (like many others, I think) only supports a Plex server (otherwise Kodi with a simple directory would be just fine)

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                  Is it Plex only or DLNA? What TV do you mind me asking? there might be a documented work around for different software?

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                  • murgeroM murgero

                    Is it Plex only or DLNA? What TV do you mind me asking? there might be a documented work around for different software?

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                    @murgero said in Plex Media Server:

                    Is it Plex only or DLNA? What TV do you mind me asking? there might be a documented work around for different software?

                    I think Plex only (?). The TV is Samsung LS03 "The Frame" (UE49LS03NAUXZG) with Tizen OS.

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                    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                      @murgero said in Plex Media Server:

                      Is it Plex only or DLNA? What TV do you mind me asking? there might be a documented work around for different software?

                      I think Plex only (?). The TV is Samsung LS03 "The Frame" (UE49LS03NAUXZG) with Tizen OS.

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                      @necrevistonnezr said in Plex Media Server:

                      UE49LS03NAUXZG

                      This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

                      Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

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                      ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~

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                      • murgeroM murgero

                        @necrevistonnezr said in Plex Media Server:

                        UE49LS03NAUXZG

                        This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

                        Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

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                        @murgero said in Plex Media Server:

                        This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

                        Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

                        Great news about the Plex app!!
                        Thanks for the tip - but using DLNA means that my media is not "managed", right? No fanart, no "watched" / "unwatched" lists, etc. And another thing: My media is on the same server as cloudron - when installing a DLNA server on Ubuntu, I guess I'll run into the same problems as with the Plex server.

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                        • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                          @murgero said in Plex Media Server:

                          This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

                          Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

                          Great news about the Plex app!!
                          Thanks for the tip - but using DLNA means that my media is not "managed", right? No fanart, no "watched" / "unwatched" lists, etc. And another thing: My media is on the same server as cloudron - when installing a DLNA server on Ubuntu, I guess I'll run into the same problems as with the Plex server.

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                          @necrevistonnezr Give me a little bit - I am working on getting plex as a cloudron app as we speak.

                          --
                          https://urgero.org
                          ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~

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                          • murgeroM murgero

                            @necrevistonnezr Give me a little bit - I am working on getting plex as a cloudron app as we speak.

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                            @murgero Great!!

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                            • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                              @murgero Great!!

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                              @necrevistonnezr Not sure if possible right now with cloudron to mount a volume in docker to an external folder via user config, but you might need to copy data to a folder inside the container.

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                              • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                @murgero Great!!

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                                @necrevistonnezr

                                So I got it to run, however it seems that there are issues running plex behind a reverse proxy. I attempted to setup without that however it still breaks during the setup via the web browser. It might not be possible or my knowledge is too limited to get it to work. (I don't use plex, I prefer Subsonic or Emby.)

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                                  Can it run in the local network only without exposing it to the internet?

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                                    The reverse proxy is something that Cloudron automatically sets up and I am not 100% sure on how to prevent it.

                                    HOWEVER - IF and only IF you need it on local only, then just install the package on the server. Take backups and all that before hand. No need to use docker or Cloudron:

                                    https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-plex-media-server-on-ubuntu-18-04/

                                    Just keep in mind that this would be considered an unsupported modification. (I'll help where I can though 🙂 )

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                                    • murgeroM murgero

                                      @necrevistonnezr said in Plex Media Server:

                                      UE49LS03NAUXZG

                                      This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

                                      Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

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                                      @murgero said in Plex Media Server:

                                      This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

                                      Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

                                      I tried Minidlna (now ReadyMedia) but I guess it's the same issue with ports. I changed the Minidlna TCP port to 4390 (which is open in Cloudron for mail sieve which I don't use) but it cannot be seen by the TV - I guess minidlna also needs UDP 1900...

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                                      • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                        @murgero said in Plex Media Server:

                                        This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

                                        Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

                                        I tried Minidlna (now ReadyMedia) but I guess it's the same issue with ports. I changed the Minidlna TCP port to 4390 (which is open in Cloudron for mail sieve which I don't use) but it cannot be seen by the TV - I guess minidlna also needs UDP 1900...

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                                        @necrevistonnezr I just remember cloudron uses iptables to manage it's firewall and will only allow certain ports it is aware to be open.

                                        See your PM for details.

                                        Essentially we need to allow the plex port:

                                        iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 32400 -j ACCEPT <- Plex Web UI
                                        iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 32469 -j ACCEPT <- Plex DLNA for other devices.

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                                          I just played a little with installing Plex. I see it like to create some media directories in /opt/something and copy all the mediafiles there.

                                          I want my media to stay where it is, and not be copied or moved anywhere else. If copied it will double my 600GB media to a total of 1200GB.

                                          Maybe Plex is not for me. Or is there some other way to have Plex serve media from their current location, without copying or moving it?

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                                            I just played a little with installing Plex. I see it like to create some media directories in /opt/something and copy all the mediafiles there.

                                            I want my media to stay where it is, and not be copied or moved anywhere else. If copied it will double my 600GB media to a total of 1200GB.

                                            Maybe Plex is not for me. Or is there some other way to have Plex serve media from their current location, without copying or moving it?

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                                            EDIT: Sorry! Taking question elsewhere as it was not actually on topic. Sorry again.

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