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  • girishG girish

    IIRC, the main challenge with Odoo was it is more like a framework on which you install apps. This makes it inherently difficult to maintain and package 😞

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    @girish I don't think it'd be much different to Wordpress in that respect, it's just plugins and themes.

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    • girishG girish

      IIRC, the main challenge with Odoo was it is more like a framework on which you install apps. This makes it inherently difficult to maintain and package 😞

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      @girish ERPNext might be easier in that regard? ☺

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        @dcher definitely

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          Having used both. ERPNext is a great idea and everything it says it is - but Odoo is fundamentally different in many ways.

          They both have value, it's not an either/or choice and I wouldn't dismiss Odoo because ERPNext claims to be equivalent, it's not.

          Plugins, GAP Accounting and Pivot Tables are all unique to Odoo.

          It's like comparing Ghost to Wordpress. Similar but also very different.

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          • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

            Having used both. ERPNext is a great idea and everything it says it is - but Odoo is fundamentally different in many ways.

            They both have value, it's not an either/or choice and I wouldn't dismiss Odoo because ERPNext claims to be equivalent, it's not.

            Plugins, GAP Accounting and Pivot Tables are all unique to Odoo.

            It's like comparing Ghost to Wordpress. Similar but also very different.

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            #14

            @samir Any progress update on this?

            Do you need help?

            Did you see my issue mentioned above?

            What will it take to roll this out with a newer version?

            Would it work to replace the shell script in your Cloudron package with one that points towards Odoo v14?
            Here is the script: https://github.com/Yenthe666/InstallScript/blob/14.0/odoo_install.sh

            @girish Would you know the answer?

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            • M makemrproper

              @samir Any progress update on this?

              Do you need help?

              Did you see my issue mentioned above?

              What will it take to roll this out with a newer version?

              Would it work to replace the shell script in your Cloudron package with one that points towards Odoo v14?
              Here is the script: https://github.com/Yenthe666/InstallScript/blob/14.0/odoo_install.sh

              @girish Would you know the answer?

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              @makemrproper We are not working on it, no. Maybe @samir is

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              • girishG girish

                @makemrproper We are not working on it, no. Maybe @samir is

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                @girish @nebulon Having this app on Cloudron would be ... awesome.

                It seems to be one of the best, complete and fastest for ecommerce and website building. It is an all-in-one app. WOW.

                I hope to have it in Cloudron.

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                • mdreiraM mdreira

                  @girish @nebulon Having this app on Cloudron would be ... awesome.

                  It seems to be one of the best, complete and fastest for ecommerce and website building. It is an all-in-one app. WOW.

                  I hope to have it in Cloudron.

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                  @mdreira I've not used Odoo much myself, but the one time I did have a little poke around I found eg their web builder to be very basic with a pretty terrible UX to be honest.

                  Of course Odoo has loads of other plugins/ features too, but I still think that WordPress + WooCommerce is still prabably the best/ easiest open source option for eCommerce (hence that's why I think over a 1/3 of all eCommerce sites are powered by WooCommerce)

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                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    @mdreira I've not used Odoo much myself, but the one time I did have a little poke around I found eg their web builder to be very basic with a pretty terrible UX to be honest.

                    Of course Odoo has loads of other plugins/ features too, but I still think that WordPress + WooCommerce is still prabably the best/ easiest open source option for eCommerce (hence that's why I think over a 1/3 of all eCommerce sites are powered by WooCommerce)

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                    @jdaviescoates Odoo is not primarily a website builder for ecommerce to run a webshop. It is a fully fledged ERP with loads of functionality to operate a business. It would be a major value add if Cloudron team would package it and get it onto the Cloudron appstore. It would definitely attract paying Cloudron customers.

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                    • M makemrproper

                      @jdaviescoates Odoo is not primarily a website builder for ecommerce to run a webshop. It is a fully fledged ERP with loads of functionality to operate a business. It would be a major value add if Cloudron team would package it and get it onto the Cloudron appstore. It would definitely attract paying Cloudron customers.

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                      Latest major version of Odoo Open Source is now v14

                      "One click" install script by a community contributor: https://github.com/Yenthe666/InstallScript

                      Edit: Release notes:

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                      • M makemrproper

                        Great! Somebody is taking action. Fantastic.

                        But please note @girish @samir - The current work focuses on packaging an old version of Odoo!
                        For some reason it is being packaged for Odoo version 10.
                        In that case release a package for all the latest 4 major versions 10, 11, 12 and 13
                        Latest version (2020) is version 13.
                        Issue: https://git.cloudron.io/altsyst/odoo-ce-app/issues/1
                        https://git.cloudron.io/altsyst/odoo-ce-app/issues/1

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                        @makemrproper Now the latest stable version is Odoo 15. It was released a few days ago.

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                        • G GustavoMarcante

                          Instead of Odoo, I suggest Flectra:
                          https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1403/flectra-erp-and-cms-an-open-source-alternative-do-odoo

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                          @gustavomarcante said in Odoo - distributed business apps:

                          Instead of Odoo, I suggest Flectra:
                          https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1403/flectra-erp-and-cms-an-open-source-alternative-do-odoo

                          Thank you for mentioning Flectra!

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                            I've been a longtime user of Odoo community edition, it's the best ERP out there. But setup is always a pain. Having this available on Cloudron would make it worth a business subscription. This one gets my vote!

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                            • ww4W ww4

                              I've been a longtime user of Odoo community edition, it's the best ERP out there. But setup is always a pain. Having this available on Cloudron would make it worth a business subscription. This one gets my vote!

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                              @ww4 Have you looked at Flectra? It is a fork of Odoo and they state their intention is to be more supportive of Freedom.

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                                @ww4 Have you looked at Flectra? It is a fork of Odoo and they state their intention is to be more supportive of Freedom.

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                                @loudlemur I wasn't aware of it until today, it seems they are a very close fork of Odoo... too close for Odoo's comfort in some cases! Here is the #3 on Google search for "flectra": https://www.odoo.com/page/flectra-vs-odoo-flectrahq-enterprise

                                At any rate, if Cloudron supports either one it should be possible to support both, as they are so similar.

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                                • nebulonN nebulon

                                  Open source ERP and CRM

                                  https://www.odoo.com/
                                  https://github.com/odoo/odoo.

                                  https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/app-requests/issues/8

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                                  I have packaged Odoo successfully.
                                  Please check out http://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo

                                  I had to patch the default Database connection function to prevent Odoo from connecting to the database named “postgres” from different places.

                                  Otherwise, everything is working as expected. Simply clone the repo, and then from inside the repo, run

                                  cloudoron build
                                  cloudron install -l <subdomain.yourcloudron.tld>
                                  

                                  Please post any error logs or problems here so I can continue to improve it.

                                  Update: somehow LDAP login is failing; need to look into it.

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                                    I have packaged Odoo successfully.
                                    Please check out http://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo

                                    I had to patch the default Database connection function to prevent Odoo from connecting to the database named “postgres” from different places.

                                    Otherwise, everything is working as expected. Simply clone the repo, and then from inside the repo, run

                                    cloudoron build
                                    cloudron install -l <subdomain.yourcloudron.tld>
                                    

                                    Please post any error logs or problems here so I can continue to improve it.

                                    Update: somehow LDAP login is failing; need to look into it.

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                                    @nj Oh, this is awesome! Would be great to see someone try this and give some feedback on how well this works.

                                    What do you think is the "status" of the package otherwise?

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                                    • njN nj

                                      I have packaged Odoo successfully.
                                      Please check out http://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo

                                      I had to patch the default Database connection function to prevent Odoo from connecting to the database named “postgres” from different places.

                                      Otherwise, everything is working as expected. Simply clone the repo, and then from inside the repo, run

                                      cloudoron build
                                      cloudron install -l <subdomain.yourcloudron.tld>
                                      

                                      Please post any error logs or problems here so I can continue to improve it.

                                      Update: somehow LDAP login is failing; need to look into it.

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                                      @nj Quick feedback after I invested 60 minutes in Odoo as a Cloudron app:
                                      Instead of an error message, a big 👍
                                      The installation runs smoothly and without any problems. Yes, you are right: LDAP does not work.
                                      Also the typical problems with uploading images or modules, do not exist in your package. Top.

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                                      • njN nj

                                        I have packaged Odoo successfully.
                                        Please check out http://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo

                                        I had to patch the default Database connection function to prevent Odoo from connecting to the database named “postgres” from different places.

                                        Otherwise, everything is working as expected. Simply clone the repo, and then from inside the repo, run

                                        cloudoron build
                                        cloudron install -l <subdomain.yourcloudron.tld>
                                        

                                        Please post any error logs or problems here so I can continue to improve it.

                                        Update: somehow LDAP login is failing; need to look into it.

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                                        #28

                                        @nj WOW!! The entire community will be eternally grateful to you for starting this great challenge. 👏

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                                        • njN nj

                                          I have packaged Odoo successfully.
                                          Please check out http://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo

                                          I had to patch the default Database connection function to prevent Odoo from connecting to the database named “postgres” from different places.

                                          Otherwise, everything is working as expected. Simply clone the repo, and then from inside the repo, run

                                          cloudoron build
                                          cloudron install -l <subdomain.yourcloudron.tld>
                                          

                                          Please post any error logs or problems here so I can continue to improve it.

                                          Update: somehow LDAP login is failing; need to look into it.

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                                          @nj The only negative point as far as I can see so far: Your Odoo version is too new 😉
                                          The OCA module shop for version 15 is almost empty.
                                          https://odoo-community.org/shop?version=19

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