ERPNext - cost-effective ERP solution
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ERPNext is a free and open-source integrated Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) software developed by Frappé Technologies Pvt. Ltd. and is built on MariaDB database system using a Python based server-side framework.
There are a few packaged versions on Docker Hub already, so it should be just a matter of reading a dockerfile and massaging it into the standard Cloudron packaging format. :thinking:
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They have a official Docker Build but it seems not to be suitable for production as they quote:
These instructions will get you a copy of the project up and running on your local machine for development and testing purposes. Unfortunately, this container is not curently suited for a production environment (but we're working towards that goal!).I would love to have ERPNext on Cloudron since EspoCRM just covers a couple use cases and Monica lacks crucial features like sync with CardDAV + it's development stagnates (mobile app, features they've been working on for ages).
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@jdaviescoates My new thread was locked for being a dupe so here's another vote for ERPNext.
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@dcher I had looked into ERPNext 2-3 years ago. That project has come a long way! Looks so polished.
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Some handy stuff on the parent/sister site too: https://frappe.io/
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Demo link too, which for some odd reason isn't obvious how to get to with their on-site nav:
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@girish The feature set is crazy for something that can run on a $20/mo VPS. I manage a commercial/industrial services business out of California and have replaced our proprietary accounting, dispatching, CRM and project management software with ERPNext. All of that cost around $1,000/mo
Here's a list of modules available:
- Accounting
- Asset management
- Customer relationship management (CRM)
- Human resource management (HRM)
- Manufacturing
- Point of sale (POS)
- Project management
- Purchasing
- Sales management
- Warehouse management system
- Student Information system
- Hospital Information system
- Agriculture Management
- Nonprofit Organization
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@dcher Having reviewed this software and data-structure many times, I concur - it's a solid framework.
The UI isn't as feature-rich as Odoo and it lacks the community plug-ins - but it has a RAD environment for customising any of the data-structures. The demo doesn't give you access to that but it is very well thought out.
To be fair, most users wouldn't have any issues on a €6/month Hetzner instance. Maybe push to €12/month with Cloudron and a bunch of other apps.
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Same question here - anything that we can do to help with this?
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I've changed my mind on this: I'm able to do everything that ERPNext or Odoo does with EspoCRM.
Espo is both faster and, as I've found from 20 years in business, better that the data revolves around the Contacts & Calendars.
ERP systems tend to revolve around the accounts, which is fine. But creating accounting systems with CRM is easier than creating good CRM with accounting systems.
I'll share what I've done with it all at some point because I understand accounting system design isn't everyone's understanding, but I'm moving as much as possible to less apps is better for user management, time-efficiency and less integration needs when the database is common. Hence, picking one and just using the others for inspiration.
ERPNext & Odoo are great - they just have limitations and annoyance that EspoCRM doesn't.
Calendars, Emails, Portals, Role-Based Permissions are all the killer features for me. Get those right and the rest is easier.
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+1 for ERPNext. Would love to see this as CLoudron app
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@marcusquinn I am not sure if I am missing something, but out of the box, EspoCRM seems to quite barebones with just core CRM modules, without many features such as Quotes, Invoices, etc that are available as a paid Extension Packs (Annual subscription plans).
So, to replicate Odoo or ERPNext Self Hosted Open Source versions involves annual payments right?
Please correct me if am wrong, but while Odoo's most attractive features are unavailable in the open source community version, ERPNext seems to be the real deal.
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@jagan yeah, I've good experience with all 3 and highly recommend Espo, although it might depend on your time and expectations.
I'm actually going to recreate the Sales Pack stuff for Espo as I think their way can be improved.
Not knowing how urgent your needs are, if they are very urgent I'd recommend Odoo paid and hosted.
If you have a little time and prefer open-source control, Espo is great.
Anything the others do can be recreated in Espo, you just have to be organised with any CRM/ERP system.
DM me if you want access to my GitLab work on Espo, I just need your gitlab.com handle to add you to repos.
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There are a ton of great updates in ERPNext today and the Update rate is from beginning Version 13 quiet awsome... Please can you please please please consider adding ERPNext? This would be such a massiv impact in the Usecase of Cloudron for me...
The service for the Frappeengine kills me so hard and Coudron is soo easy... i would fund some coins if this could speed up this topic!!! -
Hmmmm why is the reaction to my question closing one thread and send the question Zons Thread where i get the answer „buy the expansions“.
Why does a paying member not get an answer? Is this just some kids toy here? Then sorry I got the intention wrong and I will not try to improve anything here!
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@fmoeller said in ERPNext - cost-effective ERP solution:
Hmmmm why is the reaction to my question closing one thread and send the question Zons Thread where i get the answer „buy the expansions“.
Why does a paying member not get an answer? Is this just some kids toy here? Then sorry I got the intention wrong and I will not try to improve anything here!Que?
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@fmoeller I don't think anyone said no to anything, you just have to convince someone that packages apps to package this one. Someone that can't live without it would be the best ally, as they will be invested in keeping it updated too.
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@fmoeller I think you misunderstood. ERPNext is currently not packaged, so we try to keep all the ERPNext related discussions in this single thread. This page is simply just a place to express interest in wanting this app on Cloudron and having all interested parties in the same page (no pun intended).
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I also would LOVE to see ERPnext on Cloudron.
Please, please package the app! It would also increase my usecase for cloudron by a an incredible amount! -
I would love to have ERPNext on Cloudron!
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+1 This would be a great addition to Cloudron!
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Bumping this, unfortunately, espocrm is not an option for me since I need either Zapier or n8n integration
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@andreasdueren said in ERPNext - cost-effective ERP solution:
unfortunately, espocrm is not an option for me since I need either Zapier or n8n integration
EspoCRM has web hooks you should be able to feed into n8n https://docs.espocrm.com/administration/webhooks/
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@jdaviescoates Thank, I'll look into if that's sufficient
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@dcher The Gantt Charts look nice.
Also consider Odoo Community Edition and its Freedom focused fork, Flectra, both of which have been requested in the App Wish section of the forum.
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@nebulon @girish ERPNext is looking good...I'd love to see it added officially as a Cloudron app! (I've decided to move our business to ERPNext.) Maybe they'd support adding an "Install with Cloudron" option on their GitHub page? That could bring more business customers to Cloudron I expect.
Quick notes:
- Their official docker image seems mature enough. https://github.com/frappe/frappe_docker
- They also have a 1-click droplet app on Digital Ocean. (But I'd rather manage it through Cloudron...because Cloudron is beautiful and awesome.)
- There is an ERPNext integration for n8n.
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@chrishthompson Yes, totally agree. I tried several ERPs and this one really made me almost teary. Such a rich-featured ERP and they decided to make it open source.
It's a high quality made ERP. It has integration with WordPress and n8n.
Really wish it would be in Cloudron soon.
At the moment, I'm paying for a separate server just to deploy ERPnext. But it would lovely to have it in my Cloudron along with other apps I have here.
Cloudron team, please consider bringing it here
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@girish Any chance you will be able to have a look at their official package? I deployed their docker image for production in DO: https://github.com/frappe/frappe_docker
— and it works like a charm.
Why I think ERPnext is a very beautiful project: Open-source at heart, with good developers behind it, highly supportive and very community-driven project. The project has been going on for almost a decade now. -
@aizat I second this, would lvoe to see it on cloudron!
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Are there plans to bring ERPNext to cloudron soon so I can use those resources or do I have to set up and pay for another virtual machine? Because my Time is kind of running out on this one and I would rather not migrate again.
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@andreasdueren said in ERPNext - cost-effective ERP solution:
Are there plans to bring ERPNext to cloudron soon so I can use those resources or do I have to set up and pay for another virtual machine? Because my Time is kind of running out on this one and I would rather not migrate again.
We're actually in the same boat, since it's a new year looking to move platforms and this would be a massive win on our side.
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@aizat Since the cloudron Teams seems to be unwilling to adopt the official docker image for the app store, do you or anyone else here have experience in installing custom docker images so I can get this thing finally set up?
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@andreasdueren I've packaged one or two things for myself on Cloudron, and I took a look at Frappe/ERPnext.
First, for the thread: Cloudron does not run Docker images "as-is." Or, if you prefer, simply because a project runs in Docker does not mean that it will immediately be runnable under Cloudron. A Cloudron app needs to be packaged up so that it will "play nicely" with the control architecture that Cloudron provides. Put simply, to get that friendly Cloudron experience, some work is needed when packaging an app.
In the case of ERPnext, it has a compose file that specifies many software services. Traefik is used for routing and load balancing (I assume); Nginx fronts the service; it seems like Frappe (the API backend) is written in Python (another service). There's worker processes of several flavors, a scheduling service, a Redis cache, MariaDB (which, for porting to Cloudron, we'd want to integrate with it's built-in DB add-on), the site creator service... and a large number of storage volumes.
Cloudron does not, to the best of my understanding, support running
docker-composefiles. As a result, to package this, we'd have to pull all of these services into a single container image. That would take some thinking, especially since Docker "likes" to have one process per container. Or, if there is another way/it is possible, I don't personally know how to package up a multi-container Cloudron application.The Cloudron team may have something else to say, but I thought I'd drop a note in the thread that helps explain why this app is a more complex proposition than others (perhaps) when it comes to packaging. Yes, it is open, and yes, it installs easily on a VM when you do a
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@jadudm Fair and not a problem. I'm just a little bit disappointed by the lack of communication. If it won't get packaged for a while then a short note would have been sufficient instead of letting people like me guessing whats planned next.
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@andreasdueren We are not working on packaging this. We try to leave a note when we start packaging an app. Currently, we are working on 7.1 - https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/5982/what-s-coming-in-cloudron-7-1 and there's also many existing apps that need to be updated.
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For future reference, I found https://github.com/frappe/frappe/wiki/The-Hitchhiker's-Guide-to-Installing-Frappe-on-Linux . Fairly complicated!
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@girish Thank you, that makes it easier forme to decide on my next steps with ERPNext. I'll check out that guide.
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@andreasdueren Hey, sorry for the late reply. I have followed this protocol closely and it works like a charm: Youtube Video
It's fairly straightforward if you apply the same method as the video above, it uses the GitHub method that was posted here.
ERPnext is a solid system, worth the hassle. Good luck
Kind regards.
