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  • robiR robi

    @plusone-nick Thanks for the tip on https://bolt.diy

    I just built a game I've been wanting to build for the last 15 years using AI dev tools in an afternoon.

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    @robi said in Focus on Business Apps:

    @plusone-nick Thanks for the tip on https://bolt.diy

    I just built a game I've been wanting to build for the last 15 years using AI dev tools in an afternoon.

    What's the game? 🙂

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

      @robi said in Focus on Business Apps:

      @plusone-nick Thanks for the tip on https://bolt.diy

      I just built a game I've been wanting to build for the last 15 years using AI dev tools in an afternoon.

      What's the game? 🙂

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      #62

      @jdaviescoates thanks for asking.. it's called Petals Around the Rose.

      It's a great puzzle game one can play solo or with a large group of people with just a handful of dice.

      The innovation for my idea is the novel input method, instead of a separate text box and a button with modals that just distract from the game. It flows nicely with my design. Keyboard shortcuts too!

      Do not to cheat for an achievement prize..

      Conscious tech

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        #63

        Hi, I also wish for more business apps. The initial post is right in my opinion. Sooner or later I'll need e.g. RustDesk. I created a post on the wishlist. Others created additional posts for it. If it's not available by the time I cannot wait anymore I will have to look for an alternative.

        Like this one:
        https://elest.io/open-source/rustdeskserver
        https://elest.io/bring-your-own-vm

        I really don't fancy moving all my installed apps. But I would start with one. Then another one. Over the course of two three years my Cloudron would be different. Most likely I wouldn't leave Cloudron alltogether, because then Cloudron has an app that others in turn don't provide, but if the dynamic is somewhere else then I don't think that's a good thing for Cloudron, no?

        I don't know anything about the economics of running a hosting platform like Cloudron. Maybe you need additional employees should you decide to offer business apps and maybe that isn't sth. you want. Also I don't know how others are doing it, e.g. elest.io. Maybe they have these additional costs and maybe the platform turns out to be much more expensive in the end. I don't know. But I know there's a gap between what Cloudron currently is and what some (or many) users want/need.

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          I managed to install Bolt.diy in LAMP after getting pnpm installed, however it's clear OpenWebUI is more robust.

          It also doesn't have any of the run/browse features of Bolt.new, so you'll enjoy Cursor/Windsurf/We0/v0/etc more than this.

          It was a nice experiment.

          Conscious tech

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          • robiR robi

            I managed to install Bolt.diy in LAMP after getting pnpm installed, however it's clear OpenWebUI is more robust.

            It also doesn't have any of the run/browse features of Bolt.new, so you'll enjoy Cursor/Windsurf/We0/v0/etc more than this.

            It was a nice experiment.

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            timconsidine
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            @robi very helpful feedback, thank you

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            • S stbg

              Hi, I also wish for more business apps. The initial post is right in my opinion. Sooner or later I'll need e.g. RustDesk. I created a post on the wishlist. Others created additional posts for it. If it's not available by the time I cannot wait anymore I will have to look for an alternative.

              Like this one:
              https://elest.io/open-source/rustdeskserver
              https://elest.io/bring-your-own-vm

              I really don't fancy moving all my installed apps. But I would start with one. Then another one. Over the course of two three years my Cloudron would be different. Most likely I wouldn't leave Cloudron alltogether, because then Cloudron has an app that others in turn don't provide, but if the dynamic is somewhere else then I don't think that's a good thing for Cloudron, no?

              I don't know anything about the economics of running a hosting platform like Cloudron. Maybe you need additional employees should you decide to offer business apps and maybe that isn't sth. you want. Also I don't know how others are doing it, e.g. elest.io. Maybe they have these additional costs and maybe the platform turns out to be much more expensive in the end. I don't know. But I know there's a gap between what Cloudron currently is and what some (or many) users want/need.

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              #66

              @stbg said in Focus on Business Apps:

              Like this one:

              This is ridiculous. The lowest elest plan offers just 1GB ram, 20GB storage, and 1 core, PLUS just one app. If you bring your own VM, there are limitations - "To be eligible the VM you connect must have no more than 2vCPU, max 4GB RAM and max 80GB disk." Why? So that you HAVE to go through their Dashboard, where RustDeskServer, by default, costs at least USD 15/month (in Europe, it's 5 bucks more in NA and Asia), getting you this: 2 CPU, 4 GB RAM, 40 GB Storage (this server, CPX11, cost about USD 4.70/month at Hetzner) you only get the one app, so the app costs just under 11 USD/month. One app for 11 bucks. Cloudron gives you unlimited apps for 16 bucks a month.

              You know what app elest doesn't have? Bookwyrm. How dare they. This is an app which I really need. Since they don't have it, they clearly don't care about the inner writer/author in me, and others. So, I am not going to give them my business. (They DO have misskey and btcpay server, but I can set up the latter on my own.)

              Elest is reckoned to have 11-50 employees, Cloudron 0-9 (pretty sure it's not zero, though).

              A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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              • timconsidineT timconsidine

                @robi very helpful feedback, thank you

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                @timconsidine You're welcome. The only thing I really liked was the default dark mode.

                Also, I keep coming back to Windsurf since it's more intuitive than Cursor and there is always a no-cost model you can use instead of the pricey credit hungry latest ones.

                Conscious tech

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                • scookeS scooke

                  @stbg said in Focus on Business Apps:

                  Like this one:

                  This is ridiculous. The lowest elest plan offers just 1GB ram, 20GB storage, and 1 core, PLUS just one app. If you bring your own VM, there are limitations - "To be eligible the VM you connect must have no more than 2vCPU, max 4GB RAM and max 80GB disk." Why? So that you HAVE to go through their Dashboard, where RustDeskServer, by default, costs at least USD 15/month (in Europe, it's 5 bucks more in NA and Asia), getting you this: 2 CPU, 4 GB RAM, 40 GB Storage (this server, CPX11, cost about USD 4.70/month at Hetzner) you only get the one app, so the app costs just under 11 USD/month. One app for 11 bucks. Cloudron gives you unlimited apps for 16 bucks a month.

                  You know what app elest doesn't have? Bookwyrm. How dare they. This is an app which I really need. Since they don't have it, they clearly don't care about the inner writer/author in me, and others. So, I am not going to give them my business. (They DO have misskey and btcpay server, but I can set up the latter on my own.)

                  Elest is reckoned to have 11-50 employees, Cloudron 0-9 (pretty sure it's not zero, though).

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                  @scooke Agreed, there is nothing attractive about their BYOVM offer.

                  Conscious tech

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