Add minimum server requirements to https://www.cloudron.io/get.html
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I think the minimum server requirements shown on https://docs.cloudron.io/installation/ should also be shown on https://www.cloudron.io/get.html
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@girish said in Add minimum server requirements to https://www.cloudron.io/get.html:
Added, thanks.
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Missing space
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I wouldn't add more; or even possibly rethink this and remove the line you just added (I appreciate you are trying to be helpful). Hardly any other Cloudron-type shares this info on their home or install page, for one thing, so Cloudron is "following" industry standard. Also, despite ALREADY clear info, people STILL don't understand "fresh", and I suspect many will still try an Ubuntu version lower than what is listed and then come to the Forums, or email, for help and troubleshooting. Despite the sentence stating a domain is required, there are STILL domain-related questions, especially from the homelab types. So, just adding this extra info will, I expect, increase confusion - someone will rent a VPS with "2GB RAM & 20GB disk space" and THEN install a RAM-heavy app (or more realistically, more than 1), and then wonder why Cloudron isn't working. It would be toooo much to then qualify what a server with 2GB RAM & 20GB disk space can realistically handle on the same page. I liked that you guys aim for simple and straightforward... but this starts adding too many details. If you feel you NEED to offer something for someone who doesn't want to/can't search for the minimum requirements info, then maybe a link like:
Create a fresh Ubuntu Noble 24.04 x64 [server](https://docs.cloudron.io/installation/)Happy new year!
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I wouldn't add more; or even possibly rethink this and remove the line you just added (I appreciate you are trying to be helpful). Hardly any other Cloudron-type shares this info on their home or install page, for one thing, so Cloudron is "following" industry standard. Also, despite ALREADY clear info, people STILL don't understand "fresh", and I suspect many will still try an Ubuntu version lower than what is listed and then come to the Forums, or email, for help and troubleshooting. Despite the sentence stating a domain is required, there are STILL domain-related questions, especially from the homelab types. So, just adding this extra info will, I expect, increase confusion - someone will rent a VPS with "2GB RAM & 20GB disk space" and THEN install a RAM-heavy app (or more realistically, more than 1), and then wonder why Cloudron isn't working. It would be toooo much to then qualify what a server with 2GB RAM & 20GB disk space can realistically handle on the same page. I liked that you guys aim for simple and straightforward... but this starts adding too many details. If you feel you NEED to offer something for someone who doesn't want to/can't search for the minimum requirements info, then maybe a link like:
Create a fresh Ubuntu Noble 24.04 x64 [server](https://docs.cloudron.io/installation/)Happy new year!
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Personally I like the newly added line, gives minimum specs at a glance along with the command to get started. Feels very clean and simple and it is nicer than landing right away on a doc page. However I would also add a link to the full install doc there. Maybe adding something like this below the new sentence
Click here for detailed info on how to install and run Cloudron -
IMHO „vanilla“ is clearer than „fresh“
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Personally I like the newly added line, gives minimum specs at a glance along with the command to get started. Feels very clean and simple and it is nicer than landing right away on a doc page. However I would also add a link to the full install doc there. Maybe adding something like this below the new sentence
Click here for detailed info on how to install and run Cloudron@avatar1024 said in Add minimum server requirements to https://www.cloudron.io/get.html:
Personally I like the newly added line
Me too as I found myself keeping on having to go and find the information elsewhere, hence why I made the suggestion. Having it there solves are real UX issue as causes no harm imho.
@necrevistonnezr said in Add minimum server requirements to https://www.cloudron.io/get.html:
IMHO „vanilla“ is clearer than „fresh“
I don't think that is clearer myself
Perhaps "freshly installed".
Or to be doubly triply clear, something like:
"Start with a clean, freshly installed Ubuntu Noble 24.04 x64 server with no prior software or configurations, then run these commands"
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@avatar1024 said in Add minimum server requirements to https://www.cloudron.io/get.html:
Personally I like the newly added line
Me too as I found myself keeping on having to go and find the information elsewhere, hence why I made the suggestion. Having it there solves are real UX issue as causes no harm imho.
@necrevistonnezr said in Add minimum server requirements to https://www.cloudron.io/get.html:
IMHO „vanilla“ is clearer than „fresh“
I don't think that is clearer myself
Perhaps "freshly installed".
Or to be doubly triply clear, something like:
"Start with a clean, freshly installed Ubuntu Noble 24.04 x64 server with no prior software or configurations, then run these commands"
@jdaviescoates said in Add minimum server requirements to https://www.cloudron.io/get.html:
"Start with a clean, freshly installed Ubuntu Noble 24.04 x64 server with no prior software or configurations, then run these commands"
This is too wordy, if we can use the (prior) existing text amount as what they are aiming for. Plus, as the Forum sometimes shows us, some people's servers need some extra software and configuration to make them usable. The line you suggest, I think, would be misleading to those types of users.
"vanilla" has too many ideological implications, as a recent discussion exposes -- the user suggests moving away from Ubuntu to a distro that uses less space!
As I'm looking at it again, "Create a fresh..." might lead someone to reinstall. How about, "Run the following commands on a fresh Ubuntu Noble 24.04 x64 server". Action words are always nice!
Then, "A domain is required to install Cloudron". (no change)
Then, "A server with at least 2GB RAM & 20GB space for essential installation." .... you know, this newly added line invites tooo many questions."Run these commands on a fresh Ubuntu Noble 24.04 x64 server / (with a minimum of 2GB RAM and 20GB disk space)"
COMMANDS
A domain is required to install Cloudron. More info[here](https://docs.cloudron.io/installation/)That way all the text stays within the visual black box of the commands image, rather than a visually descending line of sight (I don't know the correct term).
