Cloudron is still far and beyond the best for users like me - techy but not a programmer or developer
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I just recently tried Dokploy. There have been a few posts mentioning it here. Man, what a hassle. I mean, if you LOVE editing docker compose yaml or toml or wthl (what the hell L) files, and know which info is supposed to go where, fiddling with env files, then tweaking domains and urls, then maybe it would be good for you. I tried a number of Templates which are apps that are supposedly ready to go... they aren't. Wordpress and NextCloud worked out of the box, all the others I tried didn't. One required Minio but still called for the Bitnami image of Minio, so that one I could figure out, but generally I don't know what was missing for the others. I imagine all the deets I didn't know are EXACTLY what the Cloudron team DOES KNOW and when they offer something ready to go, it is actually truly ready to go.
So I uninstalled dokploy (it's uninstaller didn't work, either, no surprise, and I had to do it manually). Went back to Yunohost because it alone has one app I really really would like to use - Bookwyrm. Guess what! The VPS I ordered from Dedihost (from Lowendtalk) runs Ubuntu 24, and Yunohost can't install on that! What?! Man, I was sooo close to opening my heart to Yunohost, again, but nope. I don't think I'll ever bother going back to it.
So far, the only other option which has sort of been working is Runtipi. I have personal reasons why I detest the name and imagery, but hey, it works, and has an interesting offering of apps. I am considering trying Coolify again, or even Umbrel (which is more dedicated to homelabs and thus has no easy - for me - way to add https to it) because it offers Snort and I like fiddling with Nostr. I already have one other Cloudron, but just the free version; most of the apps I like which Cloudron offers I am running on my main server.
Cloudronians, if we could get some kind of Nostr offering, as well as Bookwyrm, I'd be very grateful.
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I had to read up on what these apps do. To save other some clicks:
BookWyrm is a social network for tracking your reading, talking about books, writing reviews, and discovering what to read next - https://joinbookwyrm.com/
Nostr - https://nostr.com/ . This one has very vague text like " An open protocol with a chance of working " "Nostr is an apolitical communication commons" which is a brand new english sentence for me
@scooke what exactly is this? -
Sorry about the lack of links. Yeah, Bookwyrm is like Pixelfed but for books!
Nostr technically doesn't need to be on Cloudron, but Umbrel has an easy install for a Nostr relay. Nostr is another social network but is based on user keys. So unlike Mastodon or Pixelfed where the user details are tied to the instance on which the account was created, you can generate your own set of keys using rana (at least, that's the way I did it), and then use those keys to sign into any number of Nostr-based apps or clients. You aren't constrained to any one client. The one shortcoming is that many clients ask for the secure key to log in with, in order to write or respond, but that sort of defeats the whole purpose of this being secure. So, there are authorizing clients in which you can enter your keys (I use nos2x on Chrome on macos, and Amber on Android), and then they sign in for you. Now THEY have your secure key, but I guess it's better than 11 random Nostr clients. There is defintely a "type" or feel with Nostr content, lots of crypto posts, or foreign languages (German and Japanese seem most prevalent after English, but that does depend on the client). A word about the relay - if you self-host your own relay it is easier to get connected, and your own content is saved by your own relay, making management of it easier. I used the link above to set up my own relay on a VPS I have as it doesn't need alot of ram. But the first time I tried to do it was very tricky; a relay setup by Cloudron would be nice, like how Umbrel offers it.
My (new) Nostr handle is shane@nostr.channel... my own domain, my own keys, my own relay, and I am using an app on my Cloudron to host my NIP-05 identity verification!
A life lived in fear is a life half-lived
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Sorry about the lack of links. Yeah, Bookwyrm is like Pixelfed but for books!
Nostr technically doesn't need to be on Cloudron, but Umbrel has an easy install for a Nostr relay. Nostr is another social network but is based on user keys. So unlike Mastodon or Pixelfed where the user details are tied to the instance on which the account was created, you can generate your own set of keys using rana (at least, that's the way I did it), and then use those keys to sign into any number of Nostr-based apps or clients. You aren't constrained to any one client. The one shortcoming is that many clients ask for the secure key to log in with, in order to write or respond, but that sort of defeats the whole purpose of this being secure. So, there are authorizing clients in which you can enter your keys (I use nos2x on Chrome on macos, and Amber on Android), and then they sign in for you. Now THEY have your secure key, but I guess it's better than 11 random Nostr clients. There is defintely a "type" or feel with Nostr content, lots of crypto posts, or foreign languages (German and Japanese seem most prevalent after English, but that does depend on the client). A word about the relay - if you self-host your own relay it is easier to get connected, and your own content is saved by your own relay, making management of it easier. I used the link above to set up my own relay on a VPS I have as it doesn't need alot of ram. But the first time I tried to do it was very tricky; a relay setup by Cloudron would be nice, like how Umbrel offers it.
My (new) Nostr handle is shane@nostr.channel... my own domain, my own keys, my own relay, and I am using an app on my Cloudron to host my NIP-05 identity verification!
