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Alternatives to Cloudflare DNS with Cloudron?

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    Cloudflare has been fined in Italy and his CEO wrote a long post: https://xcancel.com/eastdakota/status/2009654937303896492

    A specific part of his post (#2 and #3) make me felt little bit “unconfortable”, not because of Italy, of course, but this could happen for every country:

    ...we are considering the following actions: 1) discontinuing the millions of dollars in pro bono cyber security services we are providing the upcoming Milano-Cortina Olympics; 2) discontinuing Cloudflare’s Free cyber security services for any Italy-based users; 3) removing all servers from Italian cities; and 4) terminating all plans to build an Italian Cloudflare office or make any investments in the country.

    The thought that, somewhere in the world, servers could be disconnected for non-technical reasons seems to me a risk I am not willing to take.

    I don't want to get into the discussion itself, but I saw that almost all DNS providers are integrated into Cloudron.

    I was wondering what alternatives to Cloudflare DNS you were using on Cloudron and which one you found not just good, but great, that supports different regions and geographical areas, with excellent performance and reliability, with several dozen production domains.

    Free or payed I don’t care.

    For Cloudflare DNS users, I would like to ask - if not for security and related services - why you were using it and if you were thinking of moving away from it, or what let you stay locked-in.

    I tried to search old topics here but I didn’t find a good discussion, so... let’s discuss about 😉

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      Personally I just use Gandi where I register domains. I've so far never had any need for anything any of the other services provide. I've never understood why so many people want all their stuff going through Cloudflare.

      There has been some discussion about DNS providers e.g. here https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/13598/best-way-to-change-dns-providers-from-cloudflare-to-an-eu-provider/14

      https://desec.io/ looks interesting.

      Why do you use Cloudflare DNS?

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        Personally I just use Gandi where I register domains. I've so far never had any need for anything any of the other services provide. I've never understood why so many people want all their stuff going through Cloudflare.

        There has been some discussion about DNS providers e.g. here https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/13598/best-way-to-change-dns-providers-from-cloudflare-to-an-eu-provider/14

        https://desec.io/ looks interesting.

        Why do you use Cloudflare DNS?

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        @jdaviescoates Wow I missed (and forgot) that conversation @james if you want you can merge conversations.

        Thanks for your answer @jdaviescoates. Actually I’m using Cloudflare because they sell domains at a cheaper price than other ISP and I can have “one stop shop” where to buy and manage DNS.

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          Cloudflare has been fined in Italy and his CEO wrote a long post: https://xcancel.com/eastdakota/status/2009654937303896492

          A specific part of his post (#2 and #3) make me felt little bit “unconfortable”, not because of Italy, of course, but this could happen for every country:

          ...we are considering the following actions: 1) discontinuing the millions of dollars in pro bono cyber security services we are providing the upcoming Milano-Cortina Olympics; 2) discontinuing Cloudflare’s Free cyber security services for any Italy-based users; 3) removing all servers from Italian cities; and 4) terminating all plans to build an Italian Cloudflare office or make any investments in the country.

          The thought that, somewhere in the world, servers could be disconnected for non-technical reasons seems to me a risk I am not willing to take.

          I don't want to get into the discussion itself, but I saw that almost all DNS providers are integrated into Cloudron.

          I was wondering what alternatives to Cloudflare DNS you were using on Cloudron and which one you found not just good, but great, that supports different regions and geographical areas, with excellent performance and reliability, with several dozen production domains.

          Free or payed I don’t care.

          For Cloudflare DNS users, I would like to ask - if not for security and related services - why you were using it and if you were thinking of moving away from it, or what let you stay locked-in.

          I tried to search old topics here but I didn’t find a good discussion, so... let’s discuss about 😉

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          @p44 it may also be time to consider not a Cloudflare alternative but a government alternative.

          We need an open internet. No blocking.

          Conscious tech

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            @p44 it may also be time to consider not a Cloudflare alternative but a government alternative.

            We need an open internet. No blocking.

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            @robi government alternative very hard to find, maybe impossible ...

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              @robi government alternative very hard to find, maybe impossible ...

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              @p44 food for thought.

              What happens when they fail and dissolve?

              The answer is in all of us.

              Conscious tech

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