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  • marioM Offline
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    mario
    App Dev
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Hey everyone,

    Heads up that I'm working on packaging Element Server Suite Community Edition for Cloudron. Still early days, but I'm on the right path and things are coming together.

    ESS bundles Synapse, Element Web, MAS and the supporting services into something more manageable than wiring it all up yourself. Getting that running nicely on Cloudron feels like the right kind of project - self-hosted Matrix shouldn't require a PhD in YAML files.

    I'll keep you posted as I make progress. If anyone's interested or has tried something similar, I'd love to hear about it.

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      mario
      App Dev
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      #2

      Got it working - doing some tweaks to allow configuration via /app/data, fixing admin issues with Synapse admin + MAS and I'll be ready to release.

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        mononym
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        #3

        That's grant ! Thank you very much. I would like see if my wish from https://forum.cloudron.io/post/119520 could already be implemented in the package ? No pressure ✌️

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          mario
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          wrote on last edited by mario
          #4

          Update: Pushed the latest to GitHub: https://github.com/mario/ess-cloudron
          Things are working really nicely at this point. The full stack (Synapse, MAS, Element Web, Hookshot, LiveKit) is up and running as a single Cloudron app. What I'm genuinely excited about is how customizable the whole thing turned out. The s6 service architecture with template-driven config makes it straightforward to adapt.

          One known issue: Synapse Admin doesn't work due to its incompatibility with MAS. There's a potential workaround using a database trigger that I'll be looking into over the coming days.

          Docs still need more work too, that's next on the list.

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            mario
            App Dev
            wrote on last edited by mario
            #5

            @mononym I believe @nebulade and co. already updated the official images to respect that. ESS (mine) doesn't even have that config option.

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            • marioM mario

              Update: Pushed the latest to GitHub: https://github.com/mario/ess-cloudron
              Things are working really nicely at this point. The full stack (Synapse, MAS, Element Web, Hookshot, LiveKit) is up and running as a single Cloudron app. What I'm genuinely excited about is how customizable the whole thing turned out. The s6 service architecture with template-driven config makes it straightforward to adapt.

              One known issue: Synapse Admin doesn't work due to its incompatibility with MAS. There's a potential workaround using a database trigger that I'll be looking into over the coming days.

              Docs still need more work too, that's next on the list.

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              @mario MAS needs its own domain iirc. Will we be able to specify that or do you have it hardcoded?

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              • humptyH humpty

                @mario MAS needs its own domain iirc. Will we be able to specify that or do you have it hardcoded?

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                mario
                App Dev
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                I might have missed something, but I don't think that's the case? The OIDC discovery endpoint (/.well-known/openid-configuration) routes to MAS, while /.well-known/matrix/* routes to Synapse. Auth flows (/auth, /account, /login, /logout, etc.) all route to MAS.

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                  That’s great. This of where I read that requirement https://forum.cloudron.io/post/118651

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                    mario
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                    #9

                    We'll see - try it and let me know πŸ™‚ For separate database - I've worked around that with the help of schemas πŸ˜‰

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                      mario
                      App Dev
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                      #10

                      Just made the repository public.

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                      • marioM mario

                        Just made the repository public.

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                        @mario I'm trying to install ESS via CCAI. Can you please let me know what the proper values are? TIA!

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                          might not be relevant, but my bug-bear with Element Desktop and Mobile is they don't seem to support multiple servers, like Nextcloud Apps do.

                          The only alts I could find that do:

                          • https://schildi.chat/
                          • https://fluffy.chat/

                          Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                          Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                          • humptyH humpty

                            @mario I'm trying to install ESS via CCAI. Can you please let me know what the proper values are? TIA!

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                            mario
                            App Dev
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @humptydumpty I'm not familiar with CCAI. You shouldn't have to enter ports etc at all as those are defined in the Manifest that's in the repository.

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                              #14

                              Mention and live install+demo of ESS during a FOSDEM talk: https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/BRRQYU-sustainable-matrix-at-element/

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