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Hetzner price increases by 20-30 % - other hosting providers soon to follow

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  • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

    @necrevistonnezr said in Hetzner price increases by 20-30 % - other hosting providers soon to follow:

    4 bn+ revenue

    do you need a janitor? πŸ™‚

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    @humptydumpty I can cover nights πŸ˜‚

    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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    • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

      @necrevistonnezr said in Hetzner price increases by 20-30 % - other hosting providers soon to follow:

      4 bn+ revenue

      do you need a janitor? πŸ™‚

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      @humptydumpty said in Hetzner price increases by 20-30 % - other hosting providers soon to follow:

      @necrevistonnezr said in Hetzner price increases by 20-30 % - other hosting providers soon to follow:

      4 bn+ revenue

      do you need a janitor? πŸ™‚

      I don’t own it, Iβ€˜m just an employee πŸ™‚

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      • C crazybrad

        @p44 I agree with your logic. The equipment in house is bought and paid for and existing customers shouldn't have an increase, except...
        @necrevistonnezr has explained that the cost of servers from his vantage point has increased 500%. That would mean that NEW customers would have to pay almost 5 times the amount for a new VPS. They just wouldn't, causing Hetzner's business to be capped at their current revenue base.

        I suspect that the 30+% increase for everyone is a way to spread the huge cost increase for new capacity over a wider base. I don't like it, it's unfair to those of us who either bought ahead of growing needs or those who needs are unchanged.

        It should be interesting to see if any other VPS providers (e.g. Netcup, SSDNodes) decide to keep pricing the same for existing customers and keep their promises even under unforeseen market conditions. It would definitely earn loyalty from their customer base.

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        @crazybrad this has been affecting new SSDnodes customers for at least 6-months. I actually called them to ask why their prices kept rising last year. They said infrastructure costs.

        Since they do 3yr plans, I am not sure it will affect their existing customers unless they need to make any billing changes. Bigger buffer.

        The shortages should resolve by then.

        Conscious tech

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          @necrevistonnezr But do you know someone in HR that can get us all a job when AI replaces us:) Janitor, cafeteria cook. There are many talents hidden here.

          Seriously, I am shocked that a company of your size and stature is being treated so poorly by vendors. If this is what your company is experiencing, then we all are in big trouble. Usually, it's the little people that get screwed. But when this is happening to the big and powerful too, it is beyond concerning.

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            And now imagine what happens if China takes Taiwan by 2027, as US officials have told tech CEOs (Apple, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm, etc.) since 2022:

            In secret briefings held in Washington and Silicon Valley, national security officials warned executives from companies like Apple, Advanced Micro Devices and Qualcomm that China was making plans to retake Taiwan, which Beijing has long considered a breakaway territory. A Chinese blockade of Taiwan, the officials said, could choke the supply of computer chips made on the island and bring the U.S. tech industry to its knees. […]
            β€œThe single biggest threat to the world economy, the single biggest point of single failure, is that 97 percent of the high-end chips are made in Taiwan,” Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said last month at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, slightly overstating industry estimates. β€œIf that island were blockaded, that capacity were destroyed, it would be an economic apocalypse.”

            https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/24/technology/taiwan-china-chips-silicon-valley-tsmc.html

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            • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

              And now imagine what happens if China takes Taiwan by 2027, as US officials have told tech CEOs (Apple, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm, etc.) since 2022:

              In secret briefings held in Washington and Silicon Valley, national security officials warned executives from companies like Apple, Advanced Micro Devices and Qualcomm that China was making plans to retake Taiwan, which Beijing has long considered a breakaway territory. A Chinese blockade of Taiwan, the officials said, could choke the supply of computer chips made on the island and bring the U.S. tech industry to its knees. […]
              β€œThe single biggest threat to the world economy, the single biggest point of single failure, is that 97 percent of the high-end chips are made in Taiwan,” Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said last month at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, slightly overstating industry estimates. β€œIf that island were blockaded, that capacity were destroyed, it would be an economic apocalypse.”

              https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/24/technology/taiwan-china-chips-silicon-valley-tsmc.html

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              @necrevistonnezr Yes, this could bring in mid term to a reshoring of production plants?

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              • robiR robi

                @crazybrad this has been affecting new SSDnodes customers for at least 6-months. I actually called them to ask why their prices kept rising last year. They said infrastructure costs.

                Since they do 3yr plans, I am not sure it will affect their existing customers unless they need to make any billing changes. Bigger buffer.

                The shortages should resolve by then.

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                @robi My experience corroborates yours - I actually contacted SSDNodes earlier this week, wanting to lock in prices now for some servers due to renew later this year in the fall.
                They replied that there would be no increase in prices on the renewal until then. Of course no guarantee and things can change between now and then but for now, I am inclined to leave them the benefit of the doubt.

                In parallel, the quotes/offers I am getting for physical server hardware have a 3-days lifetime max, due to availability of parts and prices fluctuation. Forget about comparing offers from multiple suppliers in this situation: one needs a short decision-making path to make these effective in these conditions.

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                • T Teiluj

                  @robi My experience corroborates yours - I actually contacted SSDNodes earlier this week, wanting to lock in prices now for some servers due to renew later this year in the fall.
                  They replied that there would be no increase in prices on the renewal until then. Of course no guarantee and things can change between now and then but for now, I am inclined to leave them the benefit of the doubt.

                  In parallel, the quotes/offers I am getting for physical server hardware have a 3-days lifetime max, due to availability of parts and prices fluctuation. Forget about comparing offers from multiple suppliers in this situation: one needs a short decision-making path to make these effective in these conditions.

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                  @Teiluj Yes, and since most of their workloads are virtual, they can shift what runs where, keeping the status quo.

                  Conscious tech

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                    @necrevistonnezr Yes, this could bring in mid term to a reshoring of production plants?

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                    @p44 said in Hetzner price increases by 20-30 % - other hosting providers soon to follow:

                    @necrevistonnezr Yes, this could bring in mid term to a reshoring of production plants?

                    Problem is: It takes a long time to build such production lines and have it actually produce appropriate yield. It's a highly sophisticated process where the US and Europe currently neither have the knowledge nor the production capabilities. Blinded by greed (and I include us customers going for the lowest prices possible), we have outsourced vital industries and there's no easy turning back.

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                      @necrevistonnezr I have a friend who worked in the semiconductor industry in the U.S. This has been a several decade process of exiting chip manufacturing, especially "commodity" chips like memory. Memory chip manufacturers experienced boom/bust cycles tied to chasing demand, building factories, only to find them empty after demand stabilized. In my opinion, their assessment today to jack up prices and build nothing is the result of their past experiences.

                      Unfortunately through intense regulation (many would argue appropriate regulation), other countries have taken a more laissez faire attitude about making semiconductors and have reaped the economic benefit. But many of the chemicals used in semiconductor manufacturing are endocrine disruptors, highly toxic in other ways and generally difficult to protect production workers.

                      But that (and enormous capital costs) may explain why America and Europe were less interested in producing chips. Again, "short-term, earnings this year above all else, share buyback" mentality that seems to prevail in Western economies justifies a "buy" instead of "make" strategy.

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