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Grav 2.0 - copying a page is slow

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  • jamesJ
    jamesJ
    james
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    #4

    Hello @superhua
    /dev/vda4 hints that this is a virtual disk.
    You should check the disk speeds it could be it is very slow for some reason.
    Also, IOWAIT might be worth looking at.

    Not that your hoster is having file storage issues and your system is just slow because of that.

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      superhua
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      #5

      hdparm -Tt /dev/vda4 yields:

      /dev/vda4:
       Timing cached reads:   9658 MB in  1.99 seconds = 4846.98 MB/sec
       Timing buffered disk reads: 896 MB in  3.00 seconds = 298.61 MB/sec
      

      Wait time (wa) using vmstat 1 is 0 or 1.

      These numbers look good.

      I'll continue to research and report back if I discover anything.

      Thanks again for your help!

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        superhua
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        #6

        Update: Installing Grav on the Cloudron LAMP App yields faster copy times (about twice as fast).

        Thus, perhaps it is something related to the Dockerization of it?

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        • robiR
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          robi
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          #7

          Does grav on the demo server have the same pattern?

          Conscious tech

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            superhua
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            #8

            @robi – Good idea!
            Yes, after installing Grav and LAMP (and then Grav on top of that), LAMP/Grav is still faster on the demo server.

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              @robi – Good idea!
              Yes, after installing Grav and LAMP (and then Grav on top of that), LAMP/Grav is still faster on the demo server.

              robiR
              robiR
              robi
              wrote on last edited by robi
              #9

              @superhua perfect for @james to take a peek.

              Drop the app subdomains of the demo server to help him out.

              Conscious tech

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                superhua
                wrote on last edited by superhua
                #10

                @james Here are the two test sites:

                • Grav in Docker

                • Grav on LAMP

                (PM me for password.)

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                • nebulonN
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                  nebulon
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                  #11

                  If both those apps are installed and using the same disk, I can't quite see how filesystem operations would in any case impact how Grav is serving up files. On top of this, the Grav package is also using apache to serve up the files.

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                  • nebulonN nebulon

                    If both those apps are installed and using the same disk, I can't quite see how filesystem operations would in any case impact how Grav is serving up files. On top of this, the Grav package is also using apache to serve up the files.

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                    superhua
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                    #12

                    @nebulon Thanks for the reply.

                    Yes, both apps are installed and using the same disk.

                    Good to know the Grav package is also using Apache.

                    Quite a mystery why there is a difference in speed then! 🤷 🙂

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                      superhua
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                      Would the following making any difference?

                      grav-system-info.yaml from the Dockerized install has opcache.revalidate_freq: "2s"

                      while

                      grav-system-info.yaml from LAMP install has opcache.revalidate_freq: "60s"

                      ?

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                      • jamesJ
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                        Hello @superhua
                        The official docker image of grav is also settings this to 2s.
                        See: https://github.com/getgrav/docker-grav/blob/89920ea92715261adee817dc7d74f366621af5c9/config/php-grav.ini#L32

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                        • S superhua

                          Would the following making any difference?

                          grav-system-info.yaml from the Dockerized install has opcache.revalidate_freq: "2s"

                          while

                          grav-system-info.yaml from LAMP install has opcache.revalidate_freq: "60s"

                          ?

                          robiR
                          robiR
                          robi
                          wrote on last edited by robi
                          #15

                          @superhua change it and test?

                          How's the CPU usage for both during the op?

                          Conscious tech

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                          • robiR robi

                            @superhua change it and test?

                            How's the CPU usage for both during the op?

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                            superhua
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                            #16

                            @robi Thanks for the reply! No, I haven't changed the opcache.revalidate_freq as I don't know how. If there is a way to do that in Cloudron, please let me know. 😄

                            CPU usage for both is okay -- but the Disk I/O is quite different: 4.6 GB / 9.6 GB for Docker and 128 MB / 436 MB for LAMP:

                            Docker:
                            docker - Screenshot 2026-07-15 at 06.42.37.png

                            LAMP:
                            lamp - Screenshot 2026-07-15 at 06.51.33.png

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                              @robi Thanks for the reply! No, I haven't changed the opcache.revalidate_freq as I don't know how. If there is a way to do that in Cloudron, please let me know. 😄

                              CPU usage for both is okay -- but the Disk I/O is quite different: 4.6 GB / 9.6 GB for Docker and 128 MB / 436 MB for LAMP:

                              Docker:
                              docker - Screenshot 2026-07-15 at 06.42.37.png

                              LAMP:
                              lamp - Screenshot 2026-07-15 at 06.51.33.png

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                              superhua
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #17

                              Update: just re-tested on the Docker install, and the I/O amounts are now similar to the LAMP install.

                              However, copying a page in the GUI is still slow.

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                                Update: just re-tested on the Docker install, and the I/O amounts are now similar to the LAMP install.

                                However, copying a page in the GUI is still slow.

                                jdaviescoatesJ
                                jdaviescoatesJ
                                jdaviescoates
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                                #18

                                @superhua have you tried another browser, incognito tabs, no plugins, cleared cache etc yet?

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  @robi Thanks for the reply! No, I haven't changed the opcache.revalidate_freq as I don't know how. If there is a way to do that in Cloudron, please let me know. 😄

                                  CPU usage for both is okay -- but the Disk I/O is quite different: 4.6 GB / 9.6 GB for Docker and 128 MB / 436 MB for LAMP:

                                  Docker:
                                  docker - Screenshot 2026-07-15 at 06.42.37.png

                                  LAMP:
                                  lamp - Screenshot 2026-07-15 at 06.51.33.png

                                  robiR
                                  robiR
                                  robi
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #19

                                  @superhua You edit the .yaml file from the File Manager or CLI console.. then test your page copy.

                                  It might help to fully describe exactly what you're doing to copy a page and how slow it is, so it can be tested on the demo server as well.

                                  Conscious tech

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                                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                    @superhua have you tried another browser, incognito tabs, no plugins, cleared cache etc yet?

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                                    superhua
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                                    #20

                                    @jdaviescoates Yes, I tried …

                                    • Chrome
                                    • Private browsing
                                    • Minimal plugins (e.g., Admin2, API, Login)
                                    • Clearing cache

                                    … but no difference.

                                    Copying a page in Admin2 is still slow.

                                    Thanks for your reply!

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                                    • robiR robi

                                      @superhua You edit the .yaml file from the File Manager or CLI console.. then test your page copy.

                                      It might help to fully describe exactly what you're doing to copy a page and how slow it is, so it can be tested on the demo server as well.

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                                      superhua
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                                      #21

                                      @robi Forgive the basic question, but which .yaml file?

                                      I'm using the copy page button in Admin2 to copy:

                                      Screenshot 2026-07-15 at 13.10.45.png

                                      It takes 12-16 seconds before I can edit the new copy on the Dockerized version.

                                      In contrast, on the same server, the LAMP version takes ~7 seconds.

                                      The demo server was faster, but yielded similar results (i.e., faster on on the LAMP install).

                                      Thank you!

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                                        @robi Forgive the basic question, but which .yaml file?

                                        I'm using the copy page button in Admin2 to copy:

                                        Screenshot 2026-07-15 at 13.10.45.png

                                        It takes 12-16 seconds before I can edit the new copy on the Dockerized version.

                                        In contrast, on the same server, the LAMP version takes ~7 seconds.

                                        The demo server was faster, but yielded similar results (i.e., faster on on the LAMP install).

                                        Thank you!

                                        robiR
                                        robiR
                                        robi
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                                        #22

                                        @superhua you mentioned it in a previous post with the cache settings. Which other could it be?

                                        Conscious tech

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                                        • robiR robi

                                          @superhua you mentioned it in a previous post with the cache settings. Which other could it be?

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                                          superhua
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                                          #23

                                          @robi Indeed, I did mention grav-system-info.yaml 😄

                                          However, that file is a generated when you click Export YAML under Configuration > Info.

                                          IOW, I don't think you can edit it and affect the system.

                                          I diid add opcache.revalidate_freq: "60s" to php.ini found at /app/data/. But this didn't speed things up.

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