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.io, or not .io, is that even a question ?

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    • JOduMonTJ Offline
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      JOduMonT
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      #1

      I read this article about draw which switching their tld because apparently the .io is unethical and potentially unsafe.

      What do you think about it ?
      Do you use the .io ?
      Should Cloudron change his tld ?

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      • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

        I read this article about draw which switching their tld because apparently the .io is unethical and potentially unsafe.

        What do you think about it ?
        Do you use the .io ?
        Should Cloudron change his tld ?

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        will
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        #2

        @JOduMonT This question is a waste of everyone's precious time. The domain is controlled out of a company in london, so I'm not seeing the ethics issue. The security processes that failed have been updated, so I don't see a security issue.

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          iamthefij
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          I don't expect that the security issue is one of ongoing concern, but the ethical one is. I've read several articles about it and will probably avoid registering one myself.

          Still, branding is powerful and rebranding something is a huge risk. I wouldn't recommend Cloudron attempt it. Maybe there is a way to balance things out with a banner somewhere calling attention to the issue and that Chagos support website.

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          • W will

            @JOduMonT This question is a waste of everyone's precious time. The domain is controlled out of a company in london, so I'm not seeing the ethics issue. The security processes that failed have been updated, so I don't see a security issue.

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            @will said in .io, or not .io, is that even a question ?:

            waste of everyone's precious time

            I understand your point of view, but this is a forum, a forum is a place to express opinion and debate it
            But I disagreed with the everyone because I'm pretty sure not everyone click on the subject to read it 😛

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            • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

              @will said in .io, or not .io, is that even a question ?:

              waste of everyone's precious time

              I understand your point of view, but this is a forum, a forum is a place to express opinion and debate it
              But I disagreed with the everyone because I'm pretty sure not everyone click on the subject to read it 😛

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              @JOduMonT Yeah I came down too harshly, sorry my friend!
              Any question is worthwhile when the intention is good!

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              • iamthefijI iamthefij

                I don't expect that the security issue is one of ongoing concern, but the ethical one is. I've read several articles about it and will probably avoid registering one myself.

                Still, branding is powerful and rebranding something is a huge risk. I wouldn't recommend Cloudron attempt it. Maybe there is a way to balance things out with a banner somewhere calling attention to the issue and that Chagos support website.

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                wrote on last edited by
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                @iamthefij
                to give you a concrete case to chew on it;
                is you host a Cloudron for and behind individuals, organizations or countries authorities who decided to ban .io (British Indian Ocean Territory) domain purposely or by mistake in their firewall; then in the case of Cloudron.io, you might miss updates; which would be a security flaw.

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                  The world is on fire and everyone's worrying about two letters 😂😂😂😂😂

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                  • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

                    @iamthefij
                    to give you a concrete case to chew on it;
                    is you host a Cloudron for and behind individuals, organizations or countries authorities who decided to ban .io (British Indian Ocean Territory) domain purposely or by mistake in their firewall; then in the case of Cloudron.io, you might miss updates; which would be a security flaw.

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                    iamthefij
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                    @JOduMonT and that could happen with any TLD. Do you suspect there is a trend or increased risk of .io being blocked by authorities?

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                    • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                      The world is on fire and everyone's worrying about two letters 😂😂😂😂😂

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                      @humptydumpty even before we took control over fire, our world felt on fire.

                      @iamthefij your right; and I don't think it's a big issue (maybe only for true believer of ENS

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                      • iamthefijI iamthefij

                        I don't expect that the security issue is one of ongoing concern, but the ethical one is. I've read several articles about it and will probably avoid registering one myself.

                        Still, branding is powerful and rebranding something is a huge risk. I wouldn't recommend Cloudron attempt it. Maybe there is a way to balance things out with a banner somewhere calling attention to the issue and that Chagos support website.

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                        @iamthefij said in .io, or not .io, is that even a question ?:

                        Still, branding is powerful and rebranding something is a huge risk. I wouldn't recommend Cloudron attempt it.

                        But the .io domain is not part of the Cloudron brand imho (it's not like it's in the logo or anything).

                        TBH I think if all existing Cloudron.io domains just seamlessly 301 redirected to another TLD I doubt many people would even notice.

                        I don't personally think it's a huge deal. But some people are quite passionate about it and do think it is a big deal, associated as it is with colonialism.

                        Personally if I were the owner of a business with a .io domain I think I probably would change it, much like draw.io did (despite the fact they DO have it as part of the their brand).

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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