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Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end

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    LoudLemur
    wrote on last edited by james
    #55

    If you would like to use the excellent Nextcloud Talk to teleconference with larger numbers of people, it is suggested that you run the HPBE.

    There is an AIO Nextcloud release which has the HPBE integrated and it might be a nice idea to switch to this fuller version of Nextcloud in the future.

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      Hello @loudlemur
      I have merged your topic into this one since it is a duplicate.
      I also deleted your AI generated output since this degrades the forum search and potentially creates feedback-loop degradation for AIs.
      In other words, AI training on AI output is 'House of Habsburg' like behaviour.

      If you wish to share output from an AI in the future, like for example ChatGPT, use the share function to share the AI Chat with a URL.
      Example: ChatGPT: What is Cloudron?

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      • jamesJ james

        Hello @loudlemur
        I have merged your topic into this one since it is a duplicate.
        I also deleted your AI generated output since this degrades the forum search and potentially creates feedback-loop degradation for AIs.
        In other words, AI training on AI output is 'House of Habsburg' like behaviour.

        If you wish to share output from an AI in the future, like for example ChatGPT, use the share function to share the AI Chat with a URL.
        Example: ChatGPT: What is Cloudron?

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        LoudLemur
        wrote on last edited by
        #57

        @james thanks, will do.

        Would setting up hastebin or privatebin on the cloudron demo be good for this, or would it be better off of cloudron altogether?

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          @james thanks, will do.

          Would setting up hastebin or privatebin on the cloudron demo be good for this, or would it be better off of cloudron altogether?

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          wrote on last edited by
          #58

          Hello @LoudLemur
          Since the Cloudron demo server is not persistent, it will get lost there.
          The Cloudron https://paste.cloudron.io/ could be used, but also has a policy to delete pastes that are too old.

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            charlesnw
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            #59

            Why not use the excellent MiroTalk for this functionality?

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              Why not use the excellent MiroTalk for this functionality?

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              jdaviescoates
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              #60

              @charlesnw because Nextcloud Talk nicely integrates with the rest of Nextcloud.

              But also quite a few reports on here of people having issues with MiroTalk, even if eventually resolved.

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                LoudLemur
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                #61

                What is the latest on supporting Nextcloud HPBE (High Performance Back End) on Cloudron? It would be great to be able to just one-click install and have great video conferencing capability. Work on this might also help Peertube, which has a similar sort of backend.

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                • L LoudLemur

                  What is the latest on supporting Nextcloud HPBE (High Performance Back End) on Cloudron? It would be great to be able to just one-click install and have great video conferencing capability. Work on this might also help Peertube, which has a similar sort of backend.

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                  @LoudLemur Honestly I would recommend to just spin up a separate VPS (doesn't need to be powerful) and install this implementation: https://github.com/sunweaver/nextcloud-high-performance-backend-setup.git

                  Cloudron is great but the firewall is always creating problems for me with the turn server.

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                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    @andreasdueren said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

                    For everyone who wants to host it themselves without too much hassle, I have been successfully using this build on a standalone server for some months now: https://github.com/sunweaver/nextcloud-high-performance-backend-setup

                    Sounds like a great solution for now, thanks!

                    @andreasdueren can you confirm or otherwise if this package includes the ability to record meetings? Thanks!

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                    wrote last edited by andreasdueren
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                    @jdaviescoates Would you be willing to run a custom app as a standalone application for recordings?

                    I set something up for our org which I'm hosting at recording.cloud.tld.com. But the package is hardcoding some opinionated things and secrets.

                    For example I set up recording and Speaker-diarized transcription (which is super slow on CPU). I'm willing to open source this but the package requires more work for a general audience which I'm only willing to put in, if this is of value for other people.

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                      wrote last edited by nostrdev
                      #64

                      We installed HPBE on a dedicated VPS and Nextcloud Talk is mostly ok for us now.

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