Outline - a Notion-like open source app

[scooke]

@timconsidine Yeah, this is one of those impossible to install apps that are super appealing to everyone. I've only ever managed to do it once, there's a write-up somewhere out there, but I've never chatted with anyone else who actually set it up. It seems ppl just got the hosted one. Too bad, really.

[klawitterb]

@timconsidine I've packed it up as a custom cloudron app. Wouldn't call it production ready though. Same for outline itself.
So I've got now 3 apps driving this, outline, keycloak and minio for storage. Not exactly simple.

[timconsidine]

@klawitterb brillliant !
if it gets to production and you don't mind sharing it, let us know.
I'm having a play keycloak on another VPS (I'm always nervous of breaking things on my Cloudron)

[fbartels]

@timconsidine on the topic of oidc. There is a fully featured oidc provider within the Kopano Meet app. For internal use I have even separated the oidc provider into a separate app.

I did write down how to configure external apps on cloudron against it in https://blog.9wd.eu/posts/cloudron-oidc-nextcloud/

[timconsidine]

@fbartels Thank you !

[timconsidine]

@fbartels nice article, thank you

[potemkin_ai]

Would love to see Outline on CloudRon, hope @klawitterb will share the code to be added to the CloudRon

[jdaviescoates]

@klawitterb said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

Latest release includes generic oidc authentication. Hooked it up with keycloak and seems to be running fine.

Even though I liked your post, I only just re-spotted that this PR has been merged https://github.com/outline/outline/pull/2388

Looks like most of this other Authentication stuff has been done too:
https://github.com/outline/outline/projects/5

It'd be really fantastic if @klawitterb could collaborate with @staff to get Outline into the Cloudron app store!

[chetbaker]

we are currently using docuwiki, but outline will be :chesskiss:

[klawitterb]

@jdaviescoates Happy to share the code, just fired it up a couple of months ago to see if it would work. So should be regarded as a prototype only.
https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline
Keep in mind that it also requires a S3 compatible storage like minio. So full solution would actually require 3 apps to be running.

[infogulch]

@klawitterb Nice thanks for sharing!

it also requires a S3 compatible storage like minio

Maybe this is a good time to bring up the Addon request: blob storage (s3) thread, which proposes a new "s3" addon in the same vein as the database addons that would create and manage s3-compatible buckets for apps automatically upon request in the app definition's manifest.

[nj]

@klawitterb Hi, were you able to make LDAP authentication work? I tried to build and install from the repo you shared but it threw several errors. Could you share a bit more about how you made Outline work with Cloudron user directory?

[klawitterb]

@nj Never made LDAP work. Only oidc with users directly created in keycloak.

[nj]

I have also packaged Outline: https://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-outline, thanks to the work @klawitterb started. Still no success with passport-ldapauth but since I've also packaged Keycloak, LDAP auth is no longer a blocker for Outline. I also added some more details on the manifest/POSTINSTALL.md file if anyone is interested. It would be awesome if minio was available as an addon.

I recommend someone with more knowledge of passport-ldapauth to try adding support for authenticating cloudron users.

[timconsidine]

@nj wow thank you, will try to check it out.

[girish]

@nj thanks! have added it to our list of next apps. What is your impression of the app itself?

[ei8fdb]

Does anyone have a demo of this app running? I'd love to get a test account to look at it to try it out. Right now I'm using Joplin (and the great server). Thanks!

[nj]

@girish the app itself is great. I moved our team from Bookstack to Outline because it was extremely easy to create groups and assign permissions, default permission, etc. It also supports real-time collaboration on the document so we also started using it for meeting notes. So far, no issues. Working wonderfully inside cloudron with minio and keycloak both hosted alongside.

It is also pretty simple to keep updating regularly because of the simple migration command, and storage based on minio. No need to fuss with manual migration and storage, etc.

Also, I’d like to request S3 as an addon, because it’s trivial to create a bucket for an app, and an user for it, then grant “all” permissions on that bucket to that user.

[luckow]

@nj First. Top. Thank you so much to step into app packaging. But now here is the real world

Sorry to ask noob questions. And yes: I have to read the docs for keycloak. But to test your app package, there is a missing part in the "First time setup" from your app package.

On your OIDC Provider, follow these steps: 1,2,3 done.
But then in 4: And, the client is added to the reaml called "cloudron"

Where do I add the client to the realm in keycloak?
From the Realm settings perspective, I didn't find any settings for the client.

And Client Registration isn't the right tab

Same for the client perspective.

Yep. I know. SSO/IDM/SAML/LDAP/AD (<- and so on and on) is a complex topic. But hey. We are here for the Cloudron experience

[luckow]

@luckow Ey luckow! You already added the client to the realm Cloudron. Look at the navigation on the right side. Because if you click on the triangle, you can see you are right there. The Cloudron realm.

But that is no explanation for your user experience.

@luckow you need to find out why your client was not found.
luckow @ luckow not today. tomorrow is another day.