Outline - a Notion-like open source app

[lucidfox]

@atrilahiji that would be brilliant! I don't have any packaging skills, but happy to help with testing or anything else.

[jdaviescoates]

@atrilahiji the developer said new versions come monthlyish around the 15ish and so a version with the new authentication method likely not available until after the weekend anyway.

And I'm not actually sure if it's ready for self-hosting yet (it wasn't initially designed for that) but be great for people here with relevant skills to take a look

[jdaviescoates]

@jdaviescoates said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

ready for self-hosting yet

It looks like there are still a few things to be done before the new authentication options are available:

https://github.com/outline/outline/projects/5

[jdaviescoates]

@jouel I think searching before posting is a great idea

There is already an App Wishlist post for Outline here:
https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8756

Seems it's not quite ready for self-hosting yet, but it's getting there

But yeah I agree it looks great

[infogulch]

Well it looks like it's possible to host Outline in docker, there is a docker compose file on github:

https://github.com/outline/outline/blob/main/docker-compose.yml

Notably, it uses postgres, redis, and an s3 api.

[jdaviescoates]

@infogulch yeah, but there is no local authentication yet https://github.com/outline/outline/projects/5

So at present your can self host but you'd still have to login using Google or Slack

[infogulch]

It seems there's a PR to get it to work with Gitea auth: https://github.com/outline/outline/pull/2134

[ruihildt]

Outline model is open core, so don't get your hopes too high to get all functionalities in the Open Source version.

[jdaviescoates]

@ruihildt is it? I don't see any paid for add-ons on their website...

[jdaviescoates]

@ruihildt I emailed them asking if any features aren't included, they replied:

We offer an enterprise edition that has these additional features:

• Audit trail
• SAML login (Okta, OneLogin, etc)
• Support contract

Everything else is included in the OSS edition

[klawitterb]

Latest release includes generic oidc authentication. Hooked it up with keycloak and seems to be running fine.

[timconsidine]

@jdaviescoates useful info
I tried to install Outline on a separate VPS using CapRover
But it failed, maybe because I skipped the gmail and slack env variables, as I don't use those platforms.
So I canned it.
Maybe I will try again.

It certainly looks a useful app and would be nice to have here on Cloudron.

[timconsidine]

@klawitterb is keycloak easy to use ?
haven't tried it out yet

[klawitterb]

@timconsidine Keycloak ist a fully fledged identity provider. So you're presented with millions of config options. Wouldn't call myself an expert in this topic but setting up a new client is quite straight forward if you've used oidc before.

[timconsidine]

@klawitterb thanks
Not used oidc before, so maybe that's where my knowledge gap starts.
Will look into it.
Where do you host keycloak ? You managed to get it as custom package into cloudron or you use it on another VPS ?
If you don't mind me asking.

[scooke]

@timconsidine Yeah, this is one of those impossible to install apps that are super appealing to everyone. I've only ever managed to do it once, there's a write-up somewhere out there, but I've never chatted with anyone else who actually set it up. It seems ppl just got the hosted one. Too bad, really.

[klawitterb]

@timconsidine I've packed it up as a custom cloudron app. Wouldn't call it production ready though. Same for outline itself.
So I've got now 3 apps driving this, outline, keycloak and minio for storage. Not exactly simple.

[timconsidine]

@klawitterb brillliant !
if it gets to production and you don't mind sharing it, let us know.
I'm having a play keycloak on another VPS (I'm always nervous of breaking things on my Cloudron)

[fbartels]

@timconsidine on the topic of oidc. There is a fully featured oidc provider within the Kopano Meet app. For internal use I have even separated the oidc provider into a separate app.

I did write down how to configure external apps on cloudron against it in https://blog.9wd.eu/posts/cloudron-oidc-nextcloud/

[timconsidine]

@fbartels Thank you !