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Outline - a Notion-like open source app

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    • marcusquinnM Offline
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      #81

      And Documize: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7116/documize-alternative-to-confluence

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      • Vikas-jkV Vikas-jk

        Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
        There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked here

        https://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314

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        #82

        @Vikas-jk said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

        Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
        There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked here

        https://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314

        Hosted Outline is paid, that doesn't apply to self-hosted. Outline is also free (as in freedom) open source software too.

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          #83

          Update available: Outline v0.65.2

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            #84

            This also looks very good:

            https://docs.codex.so/codex-docs

            Upvote here:

            https://forum.cloudron.io/post/53468

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              #85

              There is an update for the latest version v0.66.3
              I forgot to put it here earlier.

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              • njN nj

                There is an update for the latest version v0.66.3
                I forgot to put it here earlier.

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                #86

                @nj thanks!

                @staff would be wonderful if this could be added to the App Store?

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                  @nj thanks!

                  @staff would be wonderful if this could be added to the App Store?

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                  #87

                  The implementation of https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline seems to be working. Is there some plan to publish it in the store? @staff

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                  • matbrgzM matbrgz

                    The implementation of https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline seems to be working. Is there some plan to publish it in the store? @staff

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                    #88

                    @matbrgz don't see why not, we will take a look shortly. Thanks for packging this!

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                    • girishG girish

                      @matbrgz don't see why not, we will take a look shortly. Thanks for packging this!

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                      #89

                      @girish sorry to bother you again about this, could you please take a look here? This app is vital to my company.

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                      • matbrgzM matbrgz

                        @girish sorry to bother you again about this, could you please take a look here? This app is vital to my company.

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                        @matbrgz said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

                        @girish sorry to bother you again about this, could you please take a look here? This app is vital to my company.

                        And not just you either, it's the second most upvoted app request on the wishlist after Wireguard VPN. Be great to have it on Cloudron!

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          Yup, @vladimir-d is looking into this next week.

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                            #92

                            So after investigation, the situation is this:

                            • Outline does not support any local authentication i.e it has no local user database.
                            • The developers have indicated that there is possibly LDAP in the enterprise version of the product. I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it's there.
                            • Authentication can be done via Google/GitHub (?) and other external services.
                            • OpenID is supported

                            Current package is using dex to bridge OpenID connect and Cloudron LDAP. This can be difficult to migrate in the long run (and is also two really apps in one).

                            So, we can't provide Outline immediately. We are going to first add OpenID connect as an addon. We used to have OAuth before as addon that did not work out well. We will try this for 7.4.

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                            • girishG girish

                              So after investigation, the situation is this:

                              • Outline does not support any local authentication i.e it has no local user database.
                              • The developers have indicated that there is possibly LDAP in the enterprise version of the product. I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it's there.
                              • Authentication can be done via Google/GitHub (?) and other external services.
                              • OpenID is supported

                              Current package is using dex to bridge OpenID connect and Cloudron LDAP. This can be difficult to migrate in the long run (and is also two really apps in one).

                              So, we can't provide Outline immediately. We are going to first add OpenID connect as an addon. We used to have OAuth before as addon that did not work out well. We will try this for 7.4.

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                              @girish It has never been easy to run. I had it running once years ago using Google or Slack, all hand-rolled and installed, and had to use this super niche code tweak that anyone who ever found it once could never find it again.
                              Just now I went over to the site to try to login with Slack... failed. I know this is a cool app, but I don't think it is going to be worth the hassle getting it to work. Focus on something else!

                              A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                              • girishG girish

                                So after investigation, the situation is this:

                                • Outline does not support any local authentication i.e it has no local user database.
                                • The developers have indicated that there is possibly LDAP in the enterprise version of the product. I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it's there.
                                • Authentication can be done via Google/GitHub (?) and other external services.
                                • OpenID is supported

                                Current package is using dex to bridge OpenID connect and Cloudron LDAP. This can be difficult to migrate in the long run (and is also two really apps in one).

                                So, we can't provide Outline immediately. We are going to first add OpenID connect as an addon. We used to have OAuth before as addon that did not work out well. We will try this for 7.4.

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                                @girish said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

                                add OpenID connect as an addon

                                Having OpenID Connect as an addon sounds great to me.

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                • scookeS scooke

                                  @girish It has never been easy to run. I had it running once years ago using Google or Slack, all hand-rolled and installed, and had to use this super niche code tweak that anyone who ever found it once could never find it again.
                                  Just now I went over to the site to try to login with Slack... failed. I know this is a cool app, but I don't think it is going to be worth the hassle getting it to work. Focus on something else!

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                                  @scooke yeah, the upstream author has indicated that they won't accept changes not related to their SaaS. But maybe this has changed because they offer selfhosted plans. In any case, having OIDC in Cloudron won't hurt.

                                  Also, I think I remember seeing the one line patch you mentioned...

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    @scooke yeah, the upstream author has indicated that they won't accept changes not related to their SaaS. But maybe this has changed because they offer selfhosted plans. In any case, having OIDC in Cloudron won't hurt.

                                    Also, I think I remember seeing the one line patch you mentioned...

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #96

                                    @girish You've proba already seen it, but apparently Yunohost has this running. I'll check. Maybe their setup can help.

                                    A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                    • scookeS scooke

                                      @girish You've proba already seen it, but apparently Yunohost has this running. I'll check. Maybe their setup can help.

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                                      @scooke We have it running on Cloudron as well. Just not sure if it's sustainable with the current authentication approach (dex -> cloudron ldap).

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                                      • girishG girish

                                        @scooke We have it running on Cloudron as well. Just not sure if it's sustainable with the current authentication approach (dex -> cloudron ldap).

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                                        @girish is there something the community can help to accelerate the deployment of this?

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                                        • matbrgzM matbrgz

                                          @girish is there something the community can help to accelerate the deployment of this?

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                                          #99

                                          @matbrgz I think we are almost there. With 7.4, we introduce OIDC. In theory, outline supports OIDC but we have to check.

                                          OIDC support in Outlook Outline itself - the situation is quite unclear to me, since it's not documented anywhere clearly. Do you know anything about this?

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                                          • girishG girish

                                            @matbrgz I think we are almost there. With 7.4, we introduce OIDC. In theory, outline supports OIDC but we have to check.

                                            OIDC support in Outlook Outline itself - the situation is quite unclear to me, since it's not documented anywhere clearly. Do you know anything about this?

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                                            @girish OIDC in Outlook or Outline? I can help run down answers to MS related questions, but that might be a typo?

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