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ZoneMinder - state-of-the-art video surveillance software system

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  • humptydumptyH Offline
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    @Kubernetes do you feel like taking a crack at this?

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      I'm willing to put a bounty to get this packaged if others are interested too.

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        One last bump before I commit to Blue Iris. I'd rather have the money go to the project and having ZM packaged on CR!

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          @humptydumpty is Blue Iris also a web app?

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            #6

            Mainly, it's a Windows desktop app only. I don't think it can be self-hosted. It does have a web portal to view your cams that can be activated in the settings. I installed the demo on a SFF PC and set up an Amcrest camera on it. It works well and I'm blown away by the amount of available options. For instance, when it detects a motion, it emails me 4 low resolution images, sends a second email with higher res images. I can also have it send the videos to an FTP server. It has an iOS app ($9.99 one-time purchase) that I should be able to view my cams and arm/disarm the system remotely. BI is $40 for a one cam system and $80 for up to 64 cams. I'd rather spend this money on an open-source/self-hosted app like ZM if possible. I do need to get this going soon though, so let me know if anyone is interested. Let's do this!

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              reviving!

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              • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                reviving!

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                @humptydumpty what is your deployment plan ?
                are your cameras on the same network as where the Cloudron where you would install ZoneMinder ?

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                • timconsidineT timconsidine

                  @humptydumpty what is your deployment plan ?
                  are your cameras on the same network as where the Cloudron where you would install ZoneMinder ?

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                  @timconsidine Yes, they would be. Currently, I'm using BlueIris. But, that means I'm running a dedicated device just for that. It barely uses any resources so it would be ideal to have CCTV app on my Cloudron servers instead.

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                  • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                    @timconsidine Yes, they would be. Currently, I'm using BlueIris. But, that means I'm running a dedicated device just for that. It barely uses any resources so it would be ideal to have CCTV app on my Cloudron servers instead.

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                    @humptydumpty 👍
                    I was worried about cameras on remote networks.
                    I will see if I can do ZM for Cloudron.

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                    • timconsidineT timconsidine

                      @humptydumpty 👍
                      I was worried about cameras on remote networks.
                      I will see if I can do ZM for Cloudron.

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                      #11

                      @timconsidine that would be great! thank you! 🙏

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                      • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                        @timconsidine that would be great! thank you! 🙏

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                        @humptydumpty some - as in partial - good news

                        I have an initial package of Zoneminder for Cloudron
                        Distinctly ALPHA
                        There are some issues

                        • CSS / skins rendering
                        • managing complex Zoneminder configs
                        • authentication (ZM auth does not work currently, interim Cloudron proxyAuth being used)

                        Biggest issue for me : I know nothing about Zoneminder ! 😄
                        But I can see it would be useful for my network, so am delving into it.

                        If you want to be bleeding edge, and don't mind issues, I can share but you probably want to wait a bit, as I can't provide support while I am getting it at least to BETA.
                        Help testing it at that point would be great.

                        I am away for a week shortly, so may have to pick this up after return.

                        EDIT #1 : cloudron proxyAuth implemented as temporary measure

                        EDIT #2 : more errors than I saw initially - maybe it's pre-alpha 😃

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                        • timconsidineT timconsidine

                          @humptydumpty some - as in partial - good news

                          I have an initial package of Zoneminder for Cloudron
                          Distinctly ALPHA
                          There are some issues

                          • CSS / skins rendering
                          • managing complex Zoneminder configs
                          • authentication (ZM auth does not work currently, interim Cloudron proxyAuth being used)

                          Biggest issue for me : I know nothing about Zoneminder ! 😄
                          But I can see it would be useful for my network, so am delving into it.

                          If you want to be bleeding edge, and don't mind issues, I can share but you probably want to wait a bit, as I can't provide support while I am getting it at least to BETA.
                          Help testing it at that point would be great.

                          I am away for a week shortly, so may have to pick this up after return.

                          EDIT #1 : cloudron proxyAuth implemented as temporary measure

                          EDIT #2 : more errors than I saw initially - maybe it's pre-alpha 😃

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                          @timconsidine This is going faster than I expected 😊👌 I would love to test it, but I don't know how to install custom apps on my Cloudron.

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                          • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                            @timconsidine This is going faster than I expected 😊👌 I would love to test it, but I don't know how to install custom apps on my Cloudron.

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                            @humptydumpty let me get it to beta, and I will show you easy way

                            Solved a lot of issues this morning but still working on some more

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                              Update on packaging :

                              • got a camera mostly working
                              • but some fairly fundamental issues about how Zoneminder handles runtime issues with hardcoding to read-only locations
                              • working to resolve them
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                              • timconsidineT timconsidine

                                Update on packaging :

                                • got a camera mostly working
                                • but some fairly fundamental issues about how Zoneminder handles runtime issues with hardcoding to read-only locations
                                • working to resolve them
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                                @timconsidine 👌I bought an additional cam to play with so I'm ready for testing when you are!

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                                  without hijacking the thread, I recently came accross this which I think could be considered as a potential alternative: https://www.scrypted.app/ and though it might be worth mentioning. while the core app is open-source and dockerizable, the NVR plug-in is not and subject to a subscription, as far as I can see.

                                  Possibly this could make for another app in the wishlist, should there be interest.

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                                  • N Neiluj

                                    without hijacking the thread, I recently came accross this which I think could be considered as a potential alternative: https://www.scrypted.app/ and though it might be worth mentioning. while the core app is open-source and dockerizable, the NVR plug-in is not and subject to a subscription, as far as I can see.

                                    Possibly this could make for another app in the wishlist, should there be interest.

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                                    wrote on last edited by humptydumpty
                                    #18

                                    @Neiluj it looks pretty cool especially if you're into home automation - it's worthy to be added on the wishlist! Go for it! I didn't see any pricing info though. Are you sure the NVR feature is sub-based? NVM. Scrypted NVR License $ 40 per year

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