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    • yusf
      yusf last edited by

      With sponsorships and commissions becoming a thing in the Cloudron community, wouldn't it be great if we also sponsored the packaging of one or two donation/crowdfunding platforms? If we for instance had access to fosspay as a one-click install on Cloudron, packagers could very easily request contributions (even reoccurring).

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      • mehdi
        mehdi App Dev last edited by

        Their github is 404 😞 https://github.com/ddevault/fosspay

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        • yusf
          yusf last edited by

          Ah, he moved it: https://sr.ht/~sircmpwn/fosspay/

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          • marcusquinn
            marcusquinn last edited by

            Nice! Let's get upvotes on the original post:

            • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1668/fosspay-donation-collection-for-foss-groups-and-individuals

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            • marcusquinn
              marcusquinn last edited by marcusquinn

              To add to this, with a bit of experience from running businesses, it is much easier to use a company credit card to pay for things when they fall within spending limits.

              As an example, many company card policies will allow for up to say £/$/€100 transactions without approval.

              Lets say you find someone that helps you get your job done, it's easier to setup a multiple of 100 subscription payments to them over a period of time than to send then 000s.

              Obviously, not encouraging abuse of that knowledge - just something to consider for lower admin frictions in getting things done.

              Plus, of course the payment processor skims off more with the per-transaction charges - but it's worth contacting them to negotiate that if you have larger numbers of small transactions.

              Plus, say we have a dev guru that can do things that benefit 10 or 20 of us, much easier for 10 people to pledge 50 notes a month that one person to pledge 500.

              I really like this idea @yusf

              Although, I loath the expectation of payment processors to take 3% when I know it costs them more like 0.3%. There's a huge markup in payment processing, so be good if fosspay offered alternatives to Stripe. I guess if someone had recommendations they could be sponsored for alternatives too.

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              • jdaviescoates
                jdaviescoates last edited by

                See also Liberapay although their repo says "Note: This webapp is not self-hostable." 😕

                And Open Collective which is also not really self-hostable, yet.

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                • yusf
                  yusf last edited by yusf

                  The choice of payment method also comes down to general jurisdictional coverage, I suppose. If you want to charge anyone in the world, use Stripe (I think). If you’re only accepting payments from your region, there may be more to choose from. I suppose that’s why fosspay uses Stripe.

                  If it was down to me we’d be operating a consultancy DAO coop on the xDAI sidechain with $0.000001/transaction already, but that’s… not as practical.

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                  • marcusquinn
                    marcusquinn @yusf last edited by

                    @yusf I live in one of those "countries" Stripe doesn't support (Jersey) - but can use a family UK address. I'm pretty sure they are US & UK/EU focused and anything outside the big countries they just say "we'll think about it if there's enough demand" sort of thing.

                    I hear Bitwage is popular but not tried it. I have this on the wishlist but mostly to see how it works: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2932/payid-org-server

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                    • jdaviescoates
                      jdaviescoates @yusf last edited by

                      @yusf said in Sponsor sponsor-enabling apps:

                      If you want to charge anyone in the world, use Stripe (I think). If you’re only accepting payments from your region, there may be more to choose from. I suppose that’s why fosspay uses Stripe.

                      Yeah, think Stripe has widest coverage (and is pretty decent).

                      For UK and EU I really like GoCardless too for their cheap as chips online direct debit stuff. Main downside is that people are bizarrely more reluctant to enter bank details than card details despite the fact fraud is much easier with the latter.

                      @yusf said in Sponsor sponsor-enabling apps:

                      DAO coop

                      I assume you've seen this @yusf but for anyone who hasn't, check out https://disco.coop 🙂

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • marcusquinn
                        marcusquinn last edited by

                        Anyone up for packaging this with some sponsoring? Can pay you via your own instance for the first test! 🙂

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