Wekan-gantt-gpl: Wekan with a Gantt chart plugin

[nebulon]

The real and longer lasting solution is to work with the wekan project to somehow get this into the mainline tree instead of us trying to workaround in a package. We have no clue what the side-effects would be and what potential bugs might be introduced either. So if you want to see this happening, maybe consider helping out in the main project to get this going.

[avatar1024]

@nebulon I'd love to. Although the issue here is not technical, but only strategic. The maintainer could not merge it into main the tree because of the license but could merge it easily to the app. That's why he himself repackaged Wekan entirely under GLP2 in a separate branch and is maintaining the new package upstream.

But I could help write another gantt package for Wekan licensed under MIT.

But anyway, no worries, I was per my original post, I was just putting the suggestion out there in case it'd have been easy to do seeing that in that case the function would have been merged into the main tree as an update if it did not have a licensing issue.

[jdaviescoates]

@avatar1024 I guess maybe perhaps just encourage the maintainer to re-licence WeKan as GPL then?

[avatar1024]

@jdaviescoates Haha, I've actually mentioned it in passage, but I can also really see that Wekan business model might rely on those commercial customer and upsetting them could be too much of risky thing to do for the great of good

Though it is to note that he actually did relicensed Wekan as GLP, he just renamed it Wekan-GPL and kept the MIT version going! What we'd be asking is in fact to scrap the MIT version so he could rename the other one Wekan!

[avatar1024]

Here is some more from Wekan's maintainer regarding the differences between Wekan and Wekan Gantt, and ways to switch between the two versions.

"Those changes to/from Gantt GPL version are very small. That Gant Chart only displays some data exact same Wekan database on both MIT and GPL versions, there is not even any differences in database structure.

For newest Wekan changes, I have released all newest Wekan versions for all of 1) Wekan 2) Wekan Gantt GPL 3) Wekan Ondra versions. Wekan Ondra is from time before creating official Wekan Snap, only difference there is snap name. If sometime for example 2) and 3) would deprecated so that newest update shows only migration instructions at Wekan webpage, then those users should do mongodump/mongorestore to newest Wekan snap, like this:..."

@nebulon Maybe this helps to inform the implications from the perspective of the Cloudron package

Just for clarity, I'm telling anyone to do anything here. I'm just a keen Cloudron user/activist pointing out a cool new feature that landed on the Wekan app (that could / or could not benefit Cloudron), gather as much info as possible about it and I let technical people consider whether it's worth their time implementing it.

[avatar1024]

Hello all, especially, @nebulon.

So bumping back this topic as after more than a year the WeKan GPL Gantt version has been maintained and as off v5.71, it is becoming the Wekan version shipped to other projects by the main WeKan dev. See here.

I don't want anyone to feel like I'm stubborn with this but I am wondering if it would now make sense for Cloudron to also adopt this package?

And to explicitly reply to this:

@nebulon said in Wekan-gantt-gpl: Wekan with a Gantt chart plugin:

The real and longer lasting solution is to work with the wekan project to somehow get this into the mainline tree instead of us trying to workaround in a package.

This is a main tree package, just the same as the original package but licensed under GPL and maintained as the original.

(as explain before the MIT version remains mainly because of licensing issue for some WeKan customers, but the GPL is now becoming the main one shipped elsewhere)

[jdaviescoates]

@avatar1024 it does indeed sound to me like the WeKan GPL Gantt version is what we want on Cloudron, thanks for keeping track of this!

[ultraviolet]

@avatar1024 I have tested this in my dev envrionment it is a direct drop in replacement for the one that is currently on the app store for cloudron. It works the exact same way except has Gantt under the board view. I have a test version if anyone wants to use it.

@nebulon or @girish can you up my cloudron git project numbers so I can publish it please my username is the same as the forum?

[LoudLemur]

@avatar1024 Gantt Charts are very useful in project planning. If you have never tried working with one before, they are definitely worth exploring.

There is some Gantt Chart functionality in the Projects module, which is available in Flectra and Odoo. Both of these applications are requested here:

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1403/flectra-erp-and-cms-an-open-source-alternative-do-odoo/11

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1256/odoo-distributed-business-apps/21

Gantt functionality might be available in the Open Project appliction too, which Cloudron already supports.

[avatar1024]

@ultraviolet That's great to hear!! It'll be great if that can be adopted in the Cloudron version Thanks a lot for picking this up!!

@LoudLemur Yes I have used Gantt Charts and I do find them useful too, hence wanting to have it on the Cloudron version of WeKan You are right to point out that the function is already available in other apps, however we've found that WeKan fit best our (simple) needs in terms of project management and so it would be great to have the function on it as we don't really want to migrate all our projects to another app.

[avatar1024]

@ultraviolet Hello, did you hear anything from Cloudron devs regarding releasing this package? Many thanks!

[girish]

@ultraviolet said in Wekan-gantt-gpl: Wekan with a Gantt chart plugin:

can you up my cloudron git project numbers

Your project limit is 100 in GitLab. Are you unable to create new projects?

[girish]

So, if I understand correctly: Wekan is MIT licensed. The Gantt project is GPL licensed, so they couldn't integrate it into the mainstream Wekan directly. So, the fix is to fork Wekan and create a GPL "wekan" and merge Gantt into it. Did I get this right? The upstream project doesn't have much of a README.

Also, not sure what is the best approach here - do you think we should create two separate packages or replace the existing Wekan with this one?

[jdaviescoates]

@girish said in Wekan-gantt-gpl: Wekan with a Gantt chart plugin:

or replace the existing Wekan with this one?

I'd say probably that, given it sounds like it's going to become (or has become) the default upstream, see:

https://github.com/wekan/wekan/issues/2870#issuecomment-954598565

[avatar1024]

@girish said in Wekan-gantt-gpl: Wekan with a Gantt chart plugin:

So, if I understand correctly: Wekan is MIT licensed. The Gantt project is GPL licensed, so they couldn't integrate it into the mainstream Wekan directly. So, the fix is to fork Wekan and create a GPL "wekan" and merge Gantt into it. Did I get this right?

Yes exactly that and since the Wekan GPL Gantt version is maintained and updated with the original Wekan MIT version. I even asked the dev how easy it is to switch between the two (say if we ever needed to revert back) and he said that it is no problem since changes are very small with no changes at all in database structures. His answer and more details can be found in my post here: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/18075

Also, not sure what is the best approach here - do you think we should create two separate packages or replace the existing Wekan with this one?

As @jdaviescoates I think it probably makes more sense to replace the existing package by the Gantt GPL version since it only brings benefits and so people don't need to export / import boards to use it.

[girish]

@avatar1024 sounds like a plan! do you have a package already working? alternately, if you submit a PR to https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/wekan-app , we can merge that as well.

[avatar1024]

@girish said in Wekan-gantt-gpl: Wekan with a Gantt chart plugin:

@avatar1024 sounds like a plan! do you have a package already working? alternately, if you submit a PR to https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/wekan-app , we can merge that as well.

It sounded like @ultraviolet has a package working for this, no? https://forum.cloudron.io/post/39263

Sadly I don't personally, I'm an enthusiastic Cloudron user and promoter but not a coder...yet!

Thanks Girish for picking this up.

[girish]

@avatar1024 ah sorry, I meant to ask @ultraviolet

[ultraviolet]

@girish sorry yes I do, I am travelling for work atm will publish the package later this week.

[avatar1024]

@ultraviolet Hello, do you have any news on this by any chance?