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    mikulabc
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    Can someone add the hcloud from hetzner.com to the backups page /#/backups ?

    For example, 3 backups weekly Tuesdays, Thursdays & Saturdays always and retain 9 backups at a time.

    Product being used: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud
    The api: https://github.com/hetznercloud/cli
    Location for users when retrieving: https://console.hetzner.cloud/projects/11111/servers/11111/snapshots
    What it is: an instant 2minute backup of the disc as it is

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    and then retrieve the backup and mount it back within 2minute again

    Cost: €0.012/GB/month (comes to about 12 cents per month for 10 GB of data for example)

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    This cloudron VPS backup from the screenshot costs me 0.04 USD per month.

    Have 30 backups (30 days running) and you pay 1.20 USD per month

    now that's what i call real backups 🙂

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    Disk snapshots or VPS snapshots don't work well with Cloudron, since backups are per-app and not per-server on Cloudron. This is to be able to rollback/restore individual apps without interfering with the system or other apps running on it.

    Still for a secondary fallback backup solution this can still be recommended.

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    fbartels App Dev
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    Disk snapshots also carry the risk that they could have inconsistent data, such as database states not yet fully flushed to disk.

    Unless your application is aware that a snapshot will be created, and makes proper measures, a snapshot is basically the equivalent of pulling the power plug and hoping the server will be functional once you reconnect power.

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    jdaviescoates
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    @mikulabc I'm also using Hetzner and every now and then I power down and create a snapshot just as an extra backup. I actually backup to a Hetzner Storage Box (I was initially using the cloud volumes but once backups are larger than 72GB Storage Boxes are much cheaper)

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    #5

    Hetzner Cloud snapshoot can be an additional measure in case of total backup failover, but as @fbartels said, snapshoot could have inconsistent data and generate corrupted instance when recovery-restart.

    Snapshotting an instance can be an extreme way to recovery data. Of course, cannot be the first and the right way to make a restore. If you use that feature to make it cheaper I think is not a good way to approach problem.

    As @jdaviescoates said, you can purchase a Box from Hetzner and configure an extra backup, mounting CIFS directory. But also this procedure can have some risks in case of a total failover of Hetzner datacenter or connection. Best practice is to use a different provider or datacenter.

    (Now I'm testing Wasabi and seems to be fast, stable and reliable, but I'm scared about privacy policy management: maybe for some configuration mistake data directory can be exposed).

    Question is: @mikulabc why you want to use Snapshotting feature? To be cheap?

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