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  • jimcavoliJ Offline
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    jimcavoli
    App Dev
    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    That should all be getting logrotate-d to some extent, depending on the subdirectory. Configs are in /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d if you want to have a peek but generally those should be getting rotated off pretty fast. A couple gigs isn't super unusual in my experience, but the bulk of that is likely app logs. AFAIK, there's not really any harm to dropping out logs other than the fact that you won't have them, but have a look at the breakdown inside the logs directory - all the logs/{UUID} folders are the app ones and likely of only marginal utility to keep, depending on your needs.

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    • girishG Offline
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      girish
      Staff
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      #3

      I think you can also run logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf to trigger instant rotation. But in general, feel free to truncate the log files manually as well.

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        wrote on last edited by d19dotca
        #4

        I ran the logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf command as suggested, and it went from 4.1 GB (this morning) for logs to 1.7 GB, so removed around 60% of it roughly. Personally I still think 1.7 GB is a lot (I mean it's just plain text files), but much more reasonable than over 4 GB, lol.

        I then looked into the logrotate.conf file contents, and I see this:

        <user>@my:~$ cat /etc/logrotate.conf
        # see "man logrotate" for details
        # rotate log files weekly
        weekly
        
        # use the syslog group by default, since this is the owning group
        # of /var/log/syslog.
        su root syslog
        
        # keep 4 weeks worth of backlogs
        rotate 4
        
        # create new (empty) log files after rotating old ones
        create
        
        # uncomment this if you want your log files compressed
        #compress
        
        # packages drop log rotation information into this directory
        include /etc/logrotate.d
        
        # no packages own wtmp, or btmp -- we'll rotate them here
        /var/log/wtmp {
            missingok
            monthly
            create 0664 root utmp
            rotate 1
        }
        
        /var/log/btmp {
            missingok
            monthly
            create 0660 root utmp
            rotate 1
        }
        
        # system-specific logs may be configured here
        
        include /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d
        

        I then checked the /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d/ directory and found ones for basically each app (but only 5 apps in my case, not the 20+ I'm running... is that sign of an issue? Makes me wonder if some apps are logging indefinitely if there's no logrotate set for them...), along with platform and box, etc.

        Here's an example of one of the 5 apps set in that logrotate.d directory:

        <user>@my:~$ cat /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d/3167ef7d-e4c2-4072-8e11-8de49c5db970 
        # Generated by apptask
        
        # keep upto 7 rotated logs. rotation triggered daily or ahead of time if size is > 1M
        /var/lib/docker/volumes/1db1c5dda83ebf58f62348adcc965eca2ad82585ee912ae0dabc9a06dc3f30a2/_data/*.log /var/lib/docker/volumes/1db1c5dda83ebf58f62348adcc965eca2ad82585ee912ae0dabc9a06dc3f30a2/_data/*/*.log /var/lib/docker/volumes/1db1c5dda83ebf58f62348adcc965eca2ad82585ee912ae0dabc9a06dc3f30a2/_data/*/*/*.log {
            rotate 7
            daily
            compress
            maxsize 1M
            missingok
            delaycompress
            # this truncates the original log file and not the rotated one
            copytruncate
        }
        
        /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/3167ef7d-e4c2-4072-8e11-8de49c5db970/*.log {
            # only keep one rotated file, we currently do not send that over the api
            rotate 1
            size 10M
            missingok
            # we never compress so we can simply tail the files
            nocompress
            # this truncates the original log file and not the rotated one
            copytruncate
        }
        

        The above makes it sound like there should be very little disk usage of the app logs, basically seven 1 MB files and/or one 10 MB file, right? Or have I misread that?

        I guess I'm just questioning the whole logs setup... in my opinion over 4 GB is overkill for logs (4 GB of plain text is a LOT of text!), and when running logrotate it brought it to a more reasonable (but still a little high IMO) 1.7 GB in size. Then when I look at logrotate.d custom log rotates set by Cloudron, it seems to only include a few apps and most of my apps are missing from the directory which is a red flag to me... is that expected behaviour?

        PS - I realize 4 GB isn't a ton of disk space in the big picture, but I am required to run my servers in Canada and we have far fewer options here, and in many cases (like OVH) the disk space offered is quite low. So 4 GB out of a 50 GB disk offered at OVH for example is basically 1/12th of the disk consumption. Of course I could use something like DigitalOcean but they charge in USD which after conversion is almost double the price of OVH for a comparable specced system, so my choices are limited unfortunately, so several GB of stuff is a larger deal for me than it admittedly may be to most, and I certainly can apreciate that maybe it seems like I'm nitpicking on the logs in that sense. Just trying to do what I can with what I have since disk space is a bit limited in Canada pricing-wise. 🙂

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        Dustin Dauncey
        www.d19.ca

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        • d19dotcaD d19dotca

          I ran the logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf command as suggested, and it went from 4.1 GB (this morning) for logs to 1.7 GB, so removed around 60% of it roughly. Personally I still think 1.7 GB is a lot (I mean it's just plain text files), but much more reasonable than over 4 GB, lol.

          I then looked into the logrotate.conf file contents, and I see this:

          <user>@my:~$ cat /etc/logrotate.conf
          # see "man logrotate" for details
          # rotate log files weekly
          weekly
          
          # use the syslog group by default, since this is the owning group
          # of /var/log/syslog.
          su root syslog
          
          # keep 4 weeks worth of backlogs
          rotate 4
          
          # create new (empty) log files after rotating old ones
          create
          
          # uncomment this if you want your log files compressed
          #compress
          
          # packages drop log rotation information into this directory
          include /etc/logrotate.d
          
          # no packages own wtmp, or btmp -- we'll rotate them here
          /var/log/wtmp {
              missingok
              monthly
              create 0664 root utmp
              rotate 1
          }
          
          /var/log/btmp {
              missingok
              monthly
              create 0660 root utmp
              rotate 1
          }
          
          # system-specific logs may be configured here
          
          include /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d
          

          I then checked the /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d/ directory and found ones for basically each app (but only 5 apps in my case, not the 20+ I'm running... is that sign of an issue? Makes me wonder if some apps are logging indefinitely if there's no logrotate set for them...), along with platform and box, etc.

          Here's an example of one of the 5 apps set in that logrotate.d directory:

          <user>@my:~$ cat /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d/3167ef7d-e4c2-4072-8e11-8de49c5db970 
          # Generated by apptask
          
          # keep upto 7 rotated logs. rotation triggered daily or ahead of time if size is > 1M
          /var/lib/docker/volumes/1db1c5dda83ebf58f62348adcc965eca2ad82585ee912ae0dabc9a06dc3f30a2/_data/*.log /var/lib/docker/volumes/1db1c5dda83ebf58f62348adcc965eca2ad82585ee912ae0dabc9a06dc3f30a2/_data/*/*.log /var/lib/docker/volumes/1db1c5dda83ebf58f62348adcc965eca2ad82585ee912ae0dabc9a06dc3f30a2/_data/*/*/*.log {
              rotate 7
              daily
              compress
              maxsize 1M
              missingok
              delaycompress
              # this truncates the original log file and not the rotated one
              copytruncate
          }
          
          /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/3167ef7d-e4c2-4072-8e11-8de49c5db970/*.log {
              # only keep one rotated file, we currently do not send that over the api
              rotate 1
              size 10M
              missingok
              # we never compress so we can simply tail the files
              nocompress
              # this truncates the original log file and not the rotated one
              copytruncate
          }
          

          The above makes it sound like there should be very little disk usage of the app logs, basically seven 1 MB files and/or one 10 MB file, right? Or have I misread that?

          I guess I'm just questioning the whole logs setup... in my opinion over 4 GB is overkill for logs (4 GB of plain text is a LOT of text!), and when running logrotate it brought it to a more reasonable (but still a little high IMO) 1.7 GB in size. Then when I look at logrotate.d custom log rotates set by Cloudron, it seems to only include a few apps and most of my apps are missing from the directory which is a red flag to me... is that expected behaviour?

          PS - I realize 4 GB isn't a ton of disk space in the big picture, but I am required to run my servers in Canada and we have far fewer options here, and in many cases (like OVH) the disk space offered is quite low. So 4 GB out of a 50 GB disk offered at OVH for example is basically 1/12th of the disk consumption. Of course I could use something like DigitalOcean but they charge in USD which after conversion is almost double the price of OVH for a comparable specced system, so my choices are limited unfortunately, so several GB of stuff is a larger deal for me than it admittedly may be to most, and I certainly can apreciate that maybe it seems like I'm nitpicking on the logs in that sense. Just trying to do what I can with what I have since disk space is a bit limited in Canada pricing-wise. 🙂

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          robi
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          @d19dotca you're not wrong. I asked about this in the past and we do need much better log hygiene and settings that add up.

          @staff can also reflect on how many logs they need while troubleshooting and think about a separate compressed retention setting for those who need to keep 3|6|9 months of logs.

          Conscious tech

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          • girishG Offline
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            girish
            Staff
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            I have to admin I haven't thought about how much logs to retain. It really depends on the app and the incident to determine how much longs one needs. The current settings are simply values that seemed reasonable.

            @d19dotca It is not correct that only some of the apps have logrotate configs. Can you pick some missing app and then go to Location view and click save? This will re-create the logrotate config for them. BTW, is this after a full server restore? Maybe there is some bug here.

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            • girishG girish

              I have to admin I haven't thought about how much logs to retain. It really depends on the app and the incident to determine how much longs one needs. The current settings are simply values that seemed reasonable.

              @d19dotca It is not correct that only some of the apps have logrotate configs. Can you pick some missing app and then go to Location view and click save? This will re-create the logrotate config for them. BTW, is this after a full server restore? Maybe there is some bug here.

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              d19dotca
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              @girish Yeah I definitely think there's room for improvement there. Personally I think I'd set the default to be whatever you most often see being reported (or more specifically how quickly you see it being reported). I.e. do you see issues being reported from a month or two ago? Or do you see them usually being reported within hours to a week of the incident noted in the logs? I'd assume the latter, meaning we likely don't need to be keeping so many logs. And then when there's a rare issue that comes up where we need more logs, the person reporting it can simply make that quick change in the logrotate.conf file to help you guys out to debug more. That's my two cents anyways. Personally I don't think there's any use in keeping logs for more than a few days to a week in most cases.

              Glad to know that there should be a folder for each app. I definitely only have 5 in there right now which isn't even close to the ~20 I have running, so I will try that out on a few and get back to you then if that helps at all.

              The last time I would have restored this particular server would have been last summer sometime, so I would hope that'd have been fixed by now over time if there was a bug in there since almost every app has been updated since then too. Maybe app package updates need to also trigger that process to ensure it has a custom logrotate directory for itself?

              I'll update once I've tested that more. Thanks for the help, Girish. 🙂

              --
              Dustin Dauncey
              www.d19.ca

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              • d19dotcaD d19dotca

                @girish Yeah I definitely think there's room for improvement there. Personally I think I'd set the default to be whatever you most often see being reported (or more specifically how quickly you see it being reported). I.e. do you see issues being reported from a month or two ago? Or do you see them usually being reported within hours to a week of the incident noted in the logs? I'd assume the latter, meaning we likely don't need to be keeping so many logs. And then when there's a rare issue that comes up where we need more logs, the person reporting it can simply make that quick change in the logrotate.conf file to help you guys out to debug more. That's my two cents anyways. Personally I don't think there's any use in keeping logs for more than a few days to a week in most cases.

                Glad to know that there should be a folder for each app. I definitely only have 5 in there right now which isn't even close to the ~20 I have running, so I will try that out on a few and get back to you then if that helps at all.

                The last time I would have restored this particular server would have been last summer sometime, so I would hope that'd have been fixed by now over time if there was a bug in there since almost every app has been updated since then too. Maybe app package updates need to also trigger that process to ensure it has a custom logrotate directory for itself?

                I'll update once I've tested that more. Thanks for the help, Girish. 🙂

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                girishG Offline
                girish
                Staff
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                @d19dotca said in Safe to truncate /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/* when large disk consumer?:

                Glad to know that there should be a folder for each app

                There's a config file for each app btw and not a folder. It will like <appid>.conf

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                • girishG girish

                  @d19dotca said in Safe to truncate /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/* when large disk consumer?:

                  Glad to know that there should be a folder for each app

                  There's a config file for each app btw and not a folder. It will like <appid>.conf

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                  d19dotca
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  @girish Ah sorry, wrong terminology on my part. Thanks for clarifying.

                  --
                  Dustin Dauncey
                  www.d19.ca

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                  • girishG girish

                    @d19dotca said in Safe to truncate /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/* when large disk consumer?:

                    Glad to know that there should be a folder for each app

                    There's a config file for each app btw and not a folder. It will like <appid>.conf

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                    d19dotca
                    wrote on last edited by d19dotca
                    #10

                    @girish Okay... I think I found a possible root cause of the issue (though it shouldn't be a big deal long-term, would only impact why I saw only 5 apps yesterday)... I believe the root cause is when an app has a pending update (the green up arrow next to it) then the logrotate mysteriously disappears. Here's why I feel this way and my detailed testing and investigation here...

                    1. I forced the logrotate again today and it somehow cleared up another large batch of space, taking it from the leftover nearly 2 GB yesterday to just under 600 MB today.
                    ubuntu@my:~$ sudo du -ch -d 1 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/ | sort -hr
                    3.3G	total
                    3.3G	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/
                    1.8G	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/mysql
                    592M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs
                    522M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/mongodb
                    358M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/graphite
                    89M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/postgresql
                    7.6M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/redis
                    724K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/nginx
                    164K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/update
                    128K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/collectd
                    116K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/backup
                    104K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d
                    32K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/addons
                    8.0K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/acme
                    
                    1. Realized that when I listed out the /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d/ directory, I suddenly had many more app configs listed in there than there was yesterday. Yesterday there was 5 apps only, today there were many (if not all of them at quick glance):
                    ubuntu@my:~$ ls -alh /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d/
                    total 108K
                    drwxr-xr-x  2 root       root       4.0K Feb  9 04:22 .
                    drwxr-xr-x 15 yellowtent yellowtent 4.0K Dec  9 04:03 ..
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:13 0e55f920-98bd-4ff6-b591-7254c28451c0
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:22 11c6fe46-82ff-4ea4-b816-3b78a962d048
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:14 1c4fd6e4-09ed-4628-a2f4-0938312536f5
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:13 24bff5cf-736c-49a2-a0aa-87e59131c4b6
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:12 28f810a3-2d17-4e45-b0f8-e581528ac4ba
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:10 3167ef7d-e4c2-4072-8e11-8de49c5db970
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:08 38f883dc-4047-4237-a6a1-3ecd77efcde9
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:09 47164e82-f1d2-4fae-9959-507062614906
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:14 83d329e1-6571-46e5-b14f-07477b8f2aac
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  3 04:00 8732aed0-273e-49f5-837f-cd9c600bf7b9
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  3 04:00 9fdedb7f-1bd4-42f6-a7e8-9831df9da8dd
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:12 b6fa7dcd-1d93-4786-82e0-90a634f8c3a7
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:09 be3840f0-458e-4bd8-8d18-34120ebdfce4
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        230 Feb  2 16:21 box
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:15 c6a63a87-aa45-4281-b4ad-e65c85817f5d
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:15 cf1d5c7c-d4f0-4c32-ada8-e25ab025bd3d
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:09 d0d6e4ea-36e2-42df-ae47-c59a6d5bf60d
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:14 d2df514f-18f6-4e4e-84a1-69bd6360765c
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:14 d2e46149-3287-4944-8e86-1c9a03e12641
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:14 dc527d19-aced-44fa-bae1-a0b22c358a44
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:12 de175741-ee83-4085-b04f-a0048cbdf493
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  3 04:00 ea2ee30a-8d3b-4a3b-8817-19b0f1e17bd7
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:13 f1fe6d67-0897-4063-bc76-0ef7256bac7a
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:14 f2dbde27-0159-4e28-803e-7a3fc21450fb
                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root       1.1K Feb  2 16:21 platform
                    
                    1. Digged further into the logs usage and found that one app in particular was using significantly more than the rest:
                    ubuntu@my:~$ sudo du -ch -d 1 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs | sort -hr
                    592M	total
                    592M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs
                    204M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/d3121e48-4196-48fe-907d-ee831e11ce5c
                    76M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/e50f78c7-da6e-4036-a1a3-0cc934448cf1
                    72M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/e18fa18b-b176-4b25-bf78-4d82c022b0f5
                    37M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/c40f9f5f-037c-4a1d-8538-f1f4d4b82f5d
                    22M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/turn
                    11M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/f1fe6d67-0897-4063-bc76-0ef7256bac7a
                    11M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/11c6fe46-82ff-4ea4-b816-3b78a962d048
                    11M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/0e55f920-98bd-4ff6-b591-7254c28451c0
                    9.8M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/1c4fd6e4-09ed-4628-a2f4-0938312536f5
                    9.6M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/47164e82-f1d2-4fae-9959-507062614906
                    9.4M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/f2dbde27-0159-4e28-803e-7a3fc21450fb
                    9.1M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/c6a63a87-aa45-4281-b4ad-e65c85817f5d
                    8.6M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/dc527d19-aced-44fa-bae1-a0b22c358a44
                    8.5M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/d2e46149-3287-4944-8e86-1c9a03e12641
                    8.4M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/d0d6e4ea-36e2-42df-ae47-c59a6d5bf60d
                    8.1M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/492b4264-fea8-4d52-bbe6-1f15ce72c53a
                    7.2M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/mail
                    
                    1. I noticed that app d3121e48-4196-48fe-907d-ee831e11ce5c was the Radicale card/calDAV app. I then checked the list of logrotate app configs and sure enough that one was missing from the list as you can see above in #2.
                    2. I followed the steps suggested by @girish and that was then successful in creating the new logrotate for Radicale app, and then I ran logrotate again and it of course cleared even more space now. This lead me to see the following usage afterwards (took the Radicale log usage from 204 MB to 53 MB now):
                    ubuntu@my:~$ sudo du -ch -d 1 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs | sort -hr
                    272M	total
                    272M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs
                    76M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/e50f78c7-da6e-4036-a1a3-0cc934448cf1
                    72M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/e18fa18b-b176-4b25-bf78-4d82c022b0f5
                    53M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/d3121e48-4196-48fe-907d-ee831e11ce5c
                    37M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/c40f9f5f-037c-4a1d-8538-f1f4d4b82f5d
                    8.1M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/492b4264-fea8-4d52-bbe6-1f15ce72c53a
                    368K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/turn
                    136K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/f1fe6d67-0897-4063-bc76-0ef7256bac7a
                    88K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/24bff5cf-736c-49a2-a0aa-87e59131c4b6
                    76K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/1c4fd6e4-09ed-4628-a2f4-0938312536f5
                    64K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/mail
                    
                    1. I then looked at the new #1 consumer app ID e50f78c7-da6e-4036-a1a3-0cc934448cf1 which was associated to Matomo, and it too was missing a logrotate config file.

                    I realized at this point that Matomo had an app update associated with it currently in my Dashboard. Yesterday when I only saw 5 apps, the vast majority of the apps at that time also had updates pending (WordPress makes up around 12-15 of my app instances, then Roundcube was one, plus Bitwarden was another, so had roughly 14-17 or so apps with pending updates at that time which I then updated last night). This makes me suspicious that possibly an app having a pending app update somehow removes it's logrotate configuration file. It kind of explains why I only saw a few apps listed yesterday, as well as why it recovered so much more disk space today when all those apps were updated last night and today their logrotates suddenly existed again. To be fair though, it doesn't explain why Radicale didn't have one today as Radicale hasn't been updated in a while and no pending app updates for it, so that's the one app that goes against my theory.

                    Either way... I see issues here with missing logrotate configs. And that's of course on top of the disk space concern, however I suppose if everything was running properly with logrotate my main concern may be a moot point by then. So the root cause of all of all of this may simply be missing logrotate configurations for apps.

                    I should add... I haven't updated Matomo yet, in case the Cloudron team wanted to connect to my server to do that update and see if logrotate suddenly exists afterwards, in case that helps at all with troubleshooting.

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                      @girish Okay... I think I found a possible root cause of the issue (though it shouldn't be a big deal long-term, would only impact why I saw only 5 apps yesterday)... I believe the root cause is when an app has a pending update (the green up arrow next to it) then the logrotate mysteriously disappears. Here's why I feel this way and my detailed testing and investigation here...

                      1. I forced the logrotate again today and it somehow cleared up another large batch of space, taking it from the leftover nearly 2 GB yesterday to just under 600 MB today.
                      ubuntu@my:~$ sudo du -ch -d 1 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/ | sort -hr
                      3.3G	total
                      3.3G	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/
                      1.8G	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/mysql
                      592M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs
                      522M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/mongodb
                      358M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/graphite
                      89M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/postgresql
                      7.6M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/redis
                      724K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/nginx
                      164K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/update
                      128K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/collectd
                      116K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/backup
                      104K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d
                      32K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/addons
                      8.0K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/acme
                      
                      1. Realized that when I listed out the /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d/ directory, I suddenly had many more app configs listed in there than there was yesterday. Yesterday there was 5 apps only, today there were many (if not all of them at quick glance):
                      ubuntu@my:~$ ls -alh /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d/
                      total 108K
                      drwxr-xr-x  2 root       root       4.0K Feb  9 04:22 .
                      drwxr-xr-x 15 yellowtent yellowtent 4.0K Dec  9 04:03 ..
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:13 0e55f920-98bd-4ff6-b591-7254c28451c0
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:22 11c6fe46-82ff-4ea4-b816-3b78a962d048
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:14 1c4fd6e4-09ed-4628-a2f4-0938312536f5
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:13 24bff5cf-736c-49a2-a0aa-87e59131c4b6
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:12 28f810a3-2d17-4e45-b0f8-e581528ac4ba
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:10 3167ef7d-e4c2-4072-8e11-8de49c5db970
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:08 38f883dc-4047-4237-a6a1-3ecd77efcde9
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:09 47164e82-f1d2-4fae-9959-507062614906
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:14 83d329e1-6571-46e5-b14f-07477b8f2aac
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  3 04:00 8732aed0-273e-49f5-837f-cd9c600bf7b9
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  3 04:00 9fdedb7f-1bd4-42f6-a7e8-9831df9da8dd
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:12 b6fa7dcd-1d93-4786-82e0-90a634f8c3a7
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:09 be3840f0-458e-4bd8-8d18-34120ebdfce4
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        230 Feb  2 16:21 box
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:15 c6a63a87-aa45-4281-b4ad-e65c85817f5d
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:15 cf1d5c7c-d4f0-4c32-ada8-e25ab025bd3d
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:09 d0d6e4ea-36e2-42df-ae47-c59a6d5bf60d
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:14 d2df514f-18f6-4e4e-84a1-69bd6360765c
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:14 d2e46149-3287-4944-8e86-1c9a03e12641
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:14 dc527d19-aced-44fa-bae1-a0b22c358a44
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:12 de175741-ee83-4085-b04f-a0048cbdf493
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  3 04:00 ea2ee30a-8d3b-4a3b-8817-19b0f1e17bd7
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:13 f1fe6d67-0897-4063-bc76-0ef7256bac7a
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Feb  9 04:14 f2dbde27-0159-4e28-803e-7a3fc21450fb
                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root       1.1K Feb  2 16:21 platform
                      
                      1. Digged further into the logs usage and found that one app in particular was using significantly more than the rest:
                      ubuntu@my:~$ sudo du -ch -d 1 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs | sort -hr
                      592M	total
                      592M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs
                      204M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/d3121e48-4196-48fe-907d-ee831e11ce5c
                      76M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/e50f78c7-da6e-4036-a1a3-0cc934448cf1
                      72M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/e18fa18b-b176-4b25-bf78-4d82c022b0f5
                      37M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/c40f9f5f-037c-4a1d-8538-f1f4d4b82f5d
                      22M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/turn
                      11M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/f1fe6d67-0897-4063-bc76-0ef7256bac7a
                      11M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/11c6fe46-82ff-4ea4-b816-3b78a962d048
                      11M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/0e55f920-98bd-4ff6-b591-7254c28451c0
                      9.8M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/1c4fd6e4-09ed-4628-a2f4-0938312536f5
                      9.6M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/47164e82-f1d2-4fae-9959-507062614906
                      9.4M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/f2dbde27-0159-4e28-803e-7a3fc21450fb
                      9.1M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/c6a63a87-aa45-4281-b4ad-e65c85817f5d
                      8.6M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/dc527d19-aced-44fa-bae1-a0b22c358a44
                      8.5M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/d2e46149-3287-4944-8e86-1c9a03e12641
                      8.4M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/d0d6e4ea-36e2-42df-ae47-c59a6d5bf60d
                      8.1M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/492b4264-fea8-4d52-bbe6-1f15ce72c53a
                      7.2M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/mail
                      
                      1. I noticed that app d3121e48-4196-48fe-907d-ee831e11ce5c was the Radicale card/calDAV app. I then checked the list of logrotate app configs and sure enough that one was missing from the list as you can see above in #2.
                      2. I followed the steps suggested by @girish and that was then successful in creating the new logrotate for Radicale app, and then I ran logrotate again and it of course cleared even more space now. This lead me to see the following usage afterwards (took the Radicale log usage from 204 MB to 53 MB now):
                      ubuntu@my:~$ sudo du -ch -d 1 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs | sort -hr
                      272M	total
                      272M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs
                      76M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/e50f78c7-da6e-4036-a1a3-0cc934448cf1
                      72M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/e18fa18b-b176-4b25-bf78-4d82c022b0f5
                      53M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/d3121e48-4196-48fe-907d-ee831e11ce5c
                      37M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/c40f9f5f-037c-4a1d-8538-f1f4d4b82f5d
                      8.1M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/492b4264-fea8-4d52-bbe6-1f15ce72c53a
                      368K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/turn
                      136K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/f1fe6d67-0897-4063-bc76-0ef7256bac7a
                      88K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/24bff5cf-736c-49a2-a0aa-87e59131c4b6
                      76K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/1c4fd6e4-09ed-4628-a2f4-0938312536f5
                      64K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/mail
                      
                      1. I then looked at the new #1 consumer app ID e50f78c7-da6e-4036-a1a3-0cc934448cf1 which was associated to Matomo, and it too was missing a logrotate config file.

                      I realized at this point that Matomo had an app update associated with it currently in my Dashboard. Yesterday when I only saw 5 apps, the vast majority of the apps at that time also had updates pending (WordPress makes up around 12-15 of my app instances, then Roundcube was one, plus Bitwarden was another, so had roughly 14-17 or so apps with pending updates at that time which I then updated last night). This makes me suspicious that possibly an app having a pending app update somehow removes it's logrotate configuration file. It kind of explains why I only saw a few apps listed yesterday, as well as why it recovered so much more disk space today when all those apps were updated last night and today their logrotates suddenly existed again. To be fair though, it doesn't explain why Radicale didn't have one today as Radicale hasn't been updated in a while and no pending app updates for it, so that's the one app that goes against my theory.

                      Either way... I see issues here with missing logrotate configs. And that's of course on top of the disk space concern, however I suppose if everything was running properly with logrotate my main concern may be a moot point by then. So the root cause of all of all of this may simply be missing logrotate configurations for apps.

                      I should add... I haven't updated Matomo yet, in case the Cloudron team wanted to connect to my server to do that update and see if logrotate suddenly exists afterwards, in case that helps at all with troubleshooting.

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                      @d19dotca Thanks for the details analysis! So, after you report I decided to look into some of the Cloudrons I have access to and indeed logrotate configs for some apps are missing. Let me debug further, but there is definitely some bug.

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                        I just wanted to say I noticed an excessive use of logs again on my server. I guess this wasn't fixed yet, eh?

                        ubuntu@cloudron:~$ sudo du -ch -d 1 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs | sort -hr
                        12G	total
                        12G	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs
                        1.6G	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/tasks
                        919M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/6b3ebc4f-9708-4243-bc21-4c9a01bc3499
                        916M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/76aa4cfd-a1c7-451a-a11e-a4fabe5ff95b
                        804M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/9f9aba4a-f7b1-44d8-859c-c6953027c39e
                        803M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/00895422-a1ff-4196-8bb8-cb4ff8d6eeaa
                        801M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/6e21d87b-ea85-420b-8eed-8b14d601438d
                        755M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/f6b21e27-6d25-4c69-a547-0466e622d719
                        754M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/493c4f88-5d4d-40e5-8361-fd7d4541441d
                        735M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/633f2c77-9b33-457a-bc3c-919c87d25ca2
                        726M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/29354a9c-7e1d-4986-b78e-3510fe73b370
                        699M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/6120f84a-0953-4982-9167-ef872c0ee49a
                        685M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/05db518f-2c45-411b-865f-813dbf85c244
                        561M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/8dba8d47-7890-49d3-8dfa-970e1ec52991
                        294M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/e18fa18b-b176-4b25-bf78-4d82c022b0f5
                        271M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/d3121e48-4196-48fe-907d-ee831e11ce5c
                        85M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/200d36ca-8109-409a-9b56-07f46c2f09bd
                        83M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/4d2fc2b7-2475-4c6b-97b4-4f896fbe8e9e
                        76M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/21aecd6a-398a-433a-a954-5bcd5f861e20
                        67M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/4929b73d-cfa4-4246-82a7-4bc8127982f6
                        57M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/93c19968-5b36-4412-adfe-3a8f338143ec
                        46M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/95c45c33-bd8a-4fae-9718-509c69456abe
                        43M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/134ef7f1-46f8-403e-8ac5-a3297b37893f
                        43M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/1247a348-c8da-4f30-8a4c-3fa014f092a1
                        36M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/c40f9f5f-037c-4a1d-8538-f1f4d4b82f5d
                        33M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/8315f008-87e9-4f62-9ae8-1938d7b3f9b2
                        26M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/graphite
                        25M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/mail
                        23M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/turn
                        20M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/e50f78c7-da6e-4036-a1a3-0cc934448cf1
                        19M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/3167ef7d-e4c2-4072-8e11-8de49c5db970
                        16M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/sftp
                        14M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/ea2ee30a-8d3b-4a3b-8817-19b0f1e17bd7
                        13M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/38f883dc-4047-4237-a6a1-3ecd77efcde9
                        9.3M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/collectd
                        8.9M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-e18fa18b-b176-4b25-bf78-4d82c022b0f5
                        4.5M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/9fdedb7f-1bd4-42f6-a7e8-9831df9da8dd
                        3.9M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/0db23e8d-9515-45ad-8739-6cf2a2b1078f
                        3.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/mysql
                        3.4M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/8732aed0-273e-49f5-837f-cd9c600bf7b9
                        2.9M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-1247a348-c8da-4f30-8a4c-3fa014f092a1
                        2.8M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/mongodb
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-f6b21e27-6d25-4c69-a547-0466e622d719
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-9f9aba4a-f7b1-44d8-859c-c6953027c39e
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-95c45c33-bd8a-4fae-9718-509c69456abe
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-8dba8d47-7890-49d3-8dfa-970e1ec52991
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-76aa4cfd-a1c7-451a-a11e-a4fabe5ff95b
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-6e21d87b-ea85-420b-8eed-8b14d601438d
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-6b3ebc4f-9708-4243-bc21-4c9a01bc3499
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-6120f84a-0953-4982-9167-ef872c0ee49a
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-493c4f88-5d4d-40e5-8361-fd7d4541441d
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-29354a9c-7e1d-4986-b78e-3510fe73b370
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-200d36ca-8109-409a-9b56-07f46c2f09bd
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-05db518f-2c45-411b-865f-813dbf85c244
                        2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-00895422-a1ff-4196-8bb8-cb4ff8d6eeaa
                        2.6M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-134ef7f1-46f8-403e-8ac5-a3297b37893f
                        2.6M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/40ae3d28-d67f-453e-895d-0f22b539372c
                        2.0M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-4d2fc2b7-2475-4c6b-97b4-4f896fbe8e9e
                        1.5M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-4929b73d-cfa4-4246-82a7-4bc8127982f6
                        1.1M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-21aecd6a-398a-433a-a954-5bcd5f861e20
                        924K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-93c19968-5b36-4412-adfe-3a8f338143ec
                        416K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/492b4264-fea8-4d52-bbe6-1f15ce72c53a
                        288K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/updater
                        168K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-633f2c77-9b33-457a-bc3c-919c87d25ca2
                        152K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/postgresql
                        112K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-0db23e8d-9515-45ad-8739-6cf2a2b1078f
                        4.0K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/crash
                        4.0K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/backup
                        

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                        Dustin Dauncey
                        www.d19.ca

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                          I just wanted to say I noticed an excessive use of logs again on my server. I guess this wasn't fixed yet, eh?

                          ubuntu@cloudron:~$ sudo du -ch -d 1 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs | sort -hr
                          12G	total
                          12G	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs
                          1.6G	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/tasks
                          919M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/6b3ebc4f-9708-4243-bc21-4c9a01bc3499
                          916M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/76aa4cfd-a1c7-451a-a11e-a4fabe5ff95b
                          804M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/9f9aba4a-f7b1-44d8-859c-c6953027c39e
                          803M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/00895422-a1ff-4196-8bb8-cb4ff8d6eeaa
                          801M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/6e21d87b-ea85-420b-8eed-8b14d601438d
                          755M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/f6b21e27-6d25-4c69-a547-0466e622d719
                          754M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/493c4f88-5d4d-40e5-8361-fd7d4541441d
                          735M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/633f2c77-9b33-457a-bc3c-919c87d25ca2
                          726M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/29354a9c-7e1d-4986-b78e-3510fe73b370
                          699M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/6120f84a-0953-4982-9167-ef872c0ee49a
                          685M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/05db518f-2c45-411b-865f-813dbf85c244
                          561M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/8dba8d47-7890-49d3-8dfa-970e1ec52991
                          294M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/e18fa18b-b176-4b25-bf78-4d82c022b0f5
                          271M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/d3121e48-4196-48fe-907d-ee831e11ce5c
                          85M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/200d36ca-8109-409a-9b56-07f46c2f09bd
                          83M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/4d2fc2b7-2475-4c6b-97b4-4f896fbe8e9e
                          76M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/21aecd6a-398a-433a-a954-5bcd5f861e20
                          67M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/4929b73d-cfa4-4246-82a7-4bc8127982f6
                          57M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/93c19968-5b36-4412-adfe-3a8f338143ec
                          46M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/95c45c33-bd8a-4fae-9718-509c69456abe
                          43M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/134ef7f1-46f8-403e-8ac5-a3297b37893f
                          43M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/1247a348-c8da-4f30-8a4c-3fa014f092a1
                          36M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/c40f9f5f-037c-4a1d-8538-f1f4d4b82f5d
                          33M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/8315f008-87e9-4f62-9ae8-1938d7b3f9b2
                          26M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/graphite
                          25M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/mail
                          23M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/turn
                          20M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/e50f78c7-da6e-4036-a1a3-0cc934448cf1
                          19M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/3167ef7d-e4c2-4072-8e11-8de49c5db970
                          16M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/sftp
                          14M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/ea2ee30a-8d3b-4a3b-8817-19b0f1e17bd7
                          13M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/38f883dc-4047-4237-a6a1-3ecd77efcde9
                          9.3M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/collectd
                          8.9M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-e18fa18b-b176-4b25-bf78-4d82c022b0f5
                          4.5M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/9fdedb7f-1bd4-42f6-a7e8-9831df9da8dd
                          3.9M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/0db23e8d-9515-45ad-8739-6cf2a2b1078f
                          3.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/mysql
                          3.4M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/8732aed0-273e-49f5-837f-cd9c600bf7b9
                          2.9M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-1247a348-c8da-4f30-8a4c-3fa014f092a1
                          2.8M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/mongodb
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-f6b21e27-6d25-4c69-a547-0466e622d719
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-9f9aba4a-f7b1-44d8-859c-c6953027c39e
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-95c45c33-bd8a-4fae-9718-509c69456abe
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-8dba8d47-7890-49d3-8dfa-970e1ec52991
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-76aa4cfd-a1c7-451a-a11e-a4fabe5ff95b
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-6e21d87b-ea85-420b-8eed-8b14d601438d
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-6b3ebc4f-9708-4243-bc21-4c9a01bc3499
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-6120f84a-0953-4982-9167-ef872c0ee49a
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-493c4f88-5d4d-40e5-8361-fd7d4541441d
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-29354a9c-7e1d-4986-b78e-3510fe73b370
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-200d36ca-8109-409a-9b56-07f46c2f09bd
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-05db518f-2c45-411b-865f-813dbf85c244
                          2.7M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-00895422-a1ff-4196-8bb8-cb4ff8d6eeaa
                          2.6M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-134ef7f1-46f8-403e-8ac5-a3297b37893f
                          2.6M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/40ae3d28-d67f-453e-895d-0f22b539372c
                          2.0M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-4d2fc2b7-2475-4c6b-97b4-4f896fbe8e9e
                          1.5M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-4929b73d-cfa4-4246-82a7-4bc8127982f6
                          1.1M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-21aecd6a-398a-433a-a954-5bcd5f861e20
                          924K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-93c19968-5b36-4412-adfe-3a8f338143ec
                          416K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/492b4264-fea8-4d52-bbe6-1f15ce72c53a
                          288K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/updater
                          168K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-633f2c77-9b33-457a-bc3c-919c87d25ca2
                          152K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/postgresql
                          112K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/redis-0db23e8d-9515-45ad-8739-6cf2a2b1078f
                          4.0K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/crash
                          4.0K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/backup
                          
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                          #13

                          @d19dotca said in Safe to truncate /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/* when large disk consumer?:

                          sudo du -ch -d 1 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs | sort -hr

                          for me, /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/graphite has more than 580 MB of logs, as well. Is that normal?

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                            it's from all the crashing

                            Conscious tech

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                              @d19dotca said in Safe to truncate /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/* when large disk consumer?:

                              sudo du -ch -d 1 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs | sort -hr

                              for me, /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/graphite has more than 580 MB of logs, as well. Is that normal?

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                              @necrevistonnezr you can delete those files safely, of course you will lose all logs history, but if you don't have any immediate issue on your server besides log size, you can just remove them via ssh.

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                                #16

                                The logs are still being poorly maintained it seems, they account for several GBs of disk space which seems crazy high for just logs:

                                813M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/6b3ebc4f-9708-4243-bc21-4c9a01bc3499/app.log
                                788M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/4929b73d-cfa4-4246-82a7-4bc8127982f6/app.log
                                712M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/6e21d87b-ea85-420b-8eed-8b14d601438d/app.log
                                656M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/493c4f88-5d4d-40e5-8361-fd7d4541441d/app.log
                                631M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/6120f84a-0953-4982-9167-ef872c0ee49a/app.log
                                629M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/f6b21e27-6d25-4c69-a547-0466e622d719/app.log
                                613M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/4d2fc2b7-2475-4c6b-97b4-4f896fbe8e9e/app.log
                                596M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/21aecd6a-398a-433a-a954-5bcd5f861e20/app.log
                                578M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/05db518f-2c45-411b-865f-813dbf85c244/app.log
                                514M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/8dba8d47-7890-49d3-8dfa-970e1ec52991/app.log
                                

                                In my case, it seems the same issue I reported back February remains... there are missing logrotate.conf files for the area where there's far too high of log file sizes.

                                Example: Note that logs for 6b3ebc4f-9708-4243-bc21-4c9a01bc3499 was the largest... when I run the following command, there's nothing returned, suggesting the logrotate.conf is missing for this one, and likely all the rest too: ls -alh /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d/ | grep 6b3ebc4f-9708-4243-bc21-4c9a01bc3499 returns no files.

                                When I do an ls -alh listing for the directory, here is all that exists which seems far too few:

                                ls -alh /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d
                                total 80K
                                drwxr-xr-x  2 root       root       4.0K May 29 05:00 .
                                drwxr-xr-x 15 yellowtent yellowtent 4.0K May 15 07:27 ..
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 15 20:21 00895422-a1ff-4196-8bb8-cb4ff8d6eeaa
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 17 22:43 02b2f762-afa4-4278-afaa-5c07ad29715e
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 20 16:28 200d36ca-8109-409a-9b56-07f46c2f09bd
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 21 17:35 29354a9c-7e1d-4986-b78e-3510fe73b370
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 27 05:00 3167ef7d-e4c2-4072-8e11-8de49c5db970
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 29 05:00 492b4264-fea8-4d52-bbe6-1f15ce72c53a
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 20 16:23 633f2c77-9b33-457a-bc3c-919c87d25ca2
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 17 22:41 64098702-00d1-4d2e-8d27-4597e100d1c9
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 23 06:28 76aa4cfd-a1c7-451a-a11e-a4fabe5ff95b
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 16 06:37 9f9aba4a-f7b1-44d8-859c-c6953027c39e
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        230 May 15 09:00 box
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 17 22:38 c3ddc268-deef-49e0-8e3a-97e174cf0594
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 27 20:55 c40f9f5f-037c-4a1d-8538-f1f4d4b82f5d
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 27 21:00 ca7827f8-4686-4818-a821-f92fe4f5726d
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 18 05:00 e18fa18b-b176-4b25-bf78-4d82c022b0f5
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 26 15:44 e50f78c7-da6e-4036-a1a3-0cc934448cf1
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 24 00:24 ed41aa60-ff4d-4e8e-8796-8c7de4bdf1a9
                                -rw-r--r--  1 root       root       1.1K May 15 09:00 platform
                                

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                                • d19dotcaD d19dotca

                                  The logs are still being poorly maintained it seems, they account for several GBs of disk space which seems crazy high for just logs:

                                  813M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/6b3ebc4f-9708-4243-bc21-4c9a01bc3499/app.log
                                  788M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/4929b73d-cfa4-4246-82a7-4bc8127982f6/app.log
                                  712M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/6e21d87b-ea85-420b-8eed-8b14d601438d/app.log
                                  656M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/493c4f88-5d4d-40e5-8361-fd7d4541441d/app.log
                                  631M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/6120f84a-0953-4982-9167-ef872c0ee49a/app.log
                                  629M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/f6b21e27-6d25-4c69-a547-0466e622d719/app.log
                                  613M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/4d2fc2b7-2475-4c6b-97b4-4f896fbe8e9e/app.log
                                  596M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/21aecd6a-398a-433a-a954-5bcd5f861e20/app.log
                                  578M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/05db518f-2c45-411b-865f-813dbf85c244/app.log
                                  514M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/8dba8d47-7890-49d3-8dfa-970e1ec52991/app.log
                                  

                                  In my case, it seems the same issue I reported back February remains... there are missing logrotate.conf files for the area where there's far too high of log file sizes.

                                  Example: Note that logs for 6b3ebc4f-9708-4243-bc21-4c9a01bc3499 was the largest... when I run the following command, there's nothing returned, suggesting the logrotate.conf is missing for this one, and likely all the rest too: ls -alh /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d/ | grep 6b3ebc4f-9708-4243-bc21-4c9a01bc3499 returns no files.

                                  When I do an ls -alh listing for the directory, here is all that exists which seems far too few:

                                  ls -alh /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d
                                  total 80K
                                  drwxr-xr-x  2 root       root       4.0K May 29 05:00 .
                                  drwxr-xr-x 15 yellowtent yellowtent 4.0K May 15 07:27 ..
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 15 20:21 00895422-a1ff-4196-8bb8-cb4ff8d6eeaa
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 17 22:43 02b2f762-afa4-4278-afaa-5c07ad29715e
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 20 16:28 200d36ca-8109-409a-9b56-07f46c2f09bd
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 21 17:35 29354a9c-7e1d-4986-b78e-3510fe73b370
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 27 05:00 3167ef7d-e4c2-4072-8e11-8de49c5db970
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 29 05:00 492b4264-fea8-4d52-bbe6-1f15ce72c53a
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 20 16:23 633f2c77-9b33-457a-bc3c-919c87d25ca2
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 17 22:41 64098702-00d1-4d2e-8d27-4597e100d1c9
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 23 06:28 76aa4cfd-a1c7-451a-a11e-a4fabe5ff95b
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 16 06:37 9f9aba4a-f7b1-44d8-859c-c6953027c39e
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        230 May 15 09:00 box
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 17 22:38 c3ddc268-deef-49e0-8e3a-97e174cf0594
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 27 20:55 c40f9f5f-037c-4a1d-8538-f1f4d4b82f5d
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 27 21:00 ca7827f8-4686-4818-a821-f92fe4f5726d
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 18 05:00 e18fa18b-b176-4b25-bf78-4d82c022b0f5
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 26 15:44 e50f78c7-da6e-4036-a1a3-0cc934448cf1
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 24 00:24 ed41aa60-ff4d-4e8e-8796-8c7de4bdf1a9
                                  -rw-r--r--  1 root       root       1.1K May 15 09:00 platform
                                  
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                                  @d19dotca is it possible that the missing logrotate files would be for already uninstalled apps and those large log files are just not cleaned up after uninstallation?

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                                    @d19dotca is it possible that the missing logrotate files would be for already uninstalled apps and those large log files are just not cleaned up after uninstallation?

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                                    @nebulon said in Safe to truncate /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/* when large disk consumer?:

                                    @d19dotca is it possible that the missing logrotate files would be for already uninstalled apps and those large log files are just not cleaned up after uninstallation?

                                    No, unfortunately not. That has never been the case either, wish it was that easy. 😛 haha. I reported earlier in this thread that re-saving an app with from Location tab will regenerate the logrotate configs for the app. They just go missing randomly, no idea why they disappear, but I at least know how to get them back. Unfortunately I am not aware of any of this until I randomly check sizing on my server and find incredibly large log files which then leads me to discover the apps are missing logrotate configs. Saving the app again so it sort of rebuilds itself will regenerate it. I just looked now and there are a bunch more, for example: I didn't do anything beyond restoring the Cloudron backup to a new Cloudron instance in the Vultr Marketplace last night:

                                    ls -alh /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d
                                    total 156K
                                    drwxr-xr-x  2 root       root       4.0K May 31 03:54 .
                                    drwxr-xr-x 15 yellowtent yellowtent 4.0K May 30 06:27 ..
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:28 00895422-a1ff-4196-8bb8-cb4ff8d6eeaa
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:28 02b2f762-afa4-4278-afaa-5c07ad29715e
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:28 05db518f-2c45-411b-865f-813dbf85c244
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:28 1247a348-c8da-4f30-8a4c-3fa014f092a1
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:28 134ef7f1-46f8-403e-8ac5-a3297b37893f
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:28 200d36ca-8109-409a-9b56-07f46c2f09bd
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:28 21aecd6a-398a-433a-a954-5bcd5f861e20
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:28 29354a9c-7e1d-4986-b78e-3510fe73b370
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:28 3167ef7d-e4c2-4072-8e11-8de49c5db970
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:29 38f883dc-4047-4237-a6a1-3ecd77efcde9
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:28 40ae3d28-d67f-453e-895d-0f22b539372c
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:29 4929b73d-cfa4-4246-82a7-4bc8127982f6
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:29 492b4264-fea8-4d52-bbe6-1f15ce72c53a
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:29 493c4f88-5d4d-40e5-8361-fd7d4541441d
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:29 4d2fc2b7-2475-4c6b-97b4-4f896fbe8e9e
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:29 6120f84a-0953-4982-9167-ef872c0ee49a
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:29 633f2c77-9b33-457a-bc3c-919c87d25ca2
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:29 64098702-00d1-4d2e-8d27-4597e100d1c9
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 31 03:54 6b3ebc4f-9708-4243-bc21-4c9a01bc3499
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:29 6e21d87b-ea85-420b-8eed-8b14d601438d
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:30 76aa4cfd-a1c7-451a-a11e-a4fabe5ff95b
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:29 8315f008-87e9-4f62-9ae8-1938d7b3f9b2
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:29 8732aed0-273e-49f5-837f-cd9c600bf7b9
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:30 8dba8d47-7890-49d3-8dfa-970e1ec52991
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:30 95c45c33-bd8a-4fae-9718-509c69456abe
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:30 9f9aba4a-f7b1-44d8-859c-c6953027c39e
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:30 9fdedb7f-1bd4-42f6-a7e8-9831df9da8dd
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        230 May 28 17:54 box
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:30 c3ddc268-deef-49e0-8e3a-97e174cf0594
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:31 c40f9f5f-037c-4a1d-8538-f1f4d4b82f5d
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:32 d3121e48-4196-48fe-907d-ee831e11ce5c
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:32 e18fa18b-b176-4b25-bf78-4d82c022b0f5
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:33 e50f78c7-da6e-4036-a1a3-0cc934448cf1
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:31 ea2ee30a-8d3b-4a3b-8817-19b0f1e17bd7
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:31 ed41aa60-ff4d-4e8e-8796-8c7de4bdf1a9
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 May 30 06:31 f6b21e27-6d25-4c69-a547-0466e622d719
                                    -rw-r--r--  1 root       root       1.1K May 28 17:54 platform
                                    

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                                    Dustin Dauncey
                                    www.d19.ca

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                                      #19

                                      This is still an issue by the way. Noticed my disk space accumulating quickly. There's practically no logrotate's configured. Is this due to 6.3 though perhaps?

                                      ubuntu@my:~$ ls -alh /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d
                                      total 20K
                                      drwxr-xr-x  2 root       root       4.0K Jun 30 15:28 .
                                      drwxr-xr-x 17 yellowtent yellowtent 4.0K Jun 26 05:05 ..
                                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Jun 30 15:28 38f883dc-4047-4237-a6a1-3ecd77efcde9
                                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        230 Jun 30 05:05 box
                                      -rw-r--r--  1 root       root       1.1K Jun 30 05:05 platform
                                      
                                      ubuntu@my:~$ sudo du -ch -d 1 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/ | sort -hr
                                      4.1G	total
                                      4.1G	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/
                                      2.2G	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/mysql
                                      891M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs
                                      470M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/graphite
                                      421M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/mongodb
                                      97M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/postgresql
                                      54M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/backup
                                      15M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/redis
                                      4.0M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/nginx
                                      192K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/update
                                      176K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/collectd
                                      36K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/addons
                                      16K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/sftp
                                      16K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d
                                      8.0K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/firewall
                                      4.0K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/acme
                                      

                                      To re-iterate, the logrotate files get generated using the workaround of hitting "Save" on the "Locations" tab of each app, but this is a manual process and I now have to do this for about 30 apps, causing a bit of downtime with each one. 😕 Then I need to run the logrotate function manually to save the disk space again.

                                      I'm actually a little surprised this would be an issue when all the containers already had to be regenerated as part of the 6.3 upgrade.

                                      @staff - I'm concerned that this defect hasn't been fixed since it was reported quite a while back. Any possibility of getting to the bottom of this one sooner than later?

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                                      Dustin Dauncey
                                      www.d19.ca

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                                        I took the time to manually re-save each app Location tab to recreate the logrotate file as per the workaround, which resulted in a bit of downtime for each app. 😕

                                        I then ran the sudo logrotate -f /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d/* command and saved roughly half a GB in logs directory alone (I see the mongodb and graphite folders among others went much smaller too, presumably due to restarting of the apps?). So basically 500 MB in extra logs and that's only on a server that's been running for only about a week, presumably would have grown much further in just another week or two too if the logrotate files weren't regenerated.

                                        I really hope this will be fixed in the next bug-fix release.

                                        ubuntu@my:~$ sudo du -ch -d 1 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/ | sort -hr
                                        3.2G	total
                                        3.2G	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/
                                        2.2G	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/mysql
                                        422M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/mongodb
                                        229M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/graphite
                                        171M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs
                                        97M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/postgresql
                                        54M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/backup
                                        17M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/redis
                                        4.0M	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/nginx
                                        192K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/update
                                        176K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/collectd
                                        172K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d
                                        36K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/addons
                                        16K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/sftp
                                        8.0K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/firewall
                                        4.0K	/home/yellowtent/platformdata/acme
                                        

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                                        Dustin Dauncey
                                        www.d19.ca

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                                          @girish - I was wanting to follow-up on this. The defect still seems to exist. Right now, despite me running about 41 apps, I only have several in the logrotate.d folder:

                                          ubuntu@my:/home/yellowtent/platformdata$ ls -alh logrotate.d/
                                          total 60K
                                          drwxr-xr-x  2 root       root       4.0K Sep  7 05:00 .
                                          drwxr-xr-x 17 yellowtent yellowtent 4.0K Jun 26 05:05 ..
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Aug 22 03:43 3167ef7d-e4c2-4072-8e11-8de49c5db970
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Aug 23 16:40 4929b73d-cfa4-4246-82a7-4bc8127982f6
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Sep  7 05:00 492b4264-fea8-4d52-bbe6-1f15ce72c53a
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Sep  4 03:34 684cf8eb-f80c-4304-b97d-ab915a18cfe7
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Sep  4 23:07 6b3ebc4f-9708-4243-bc21-4c9a01bc3499
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Aug 19 23:11 7384a604-7a42-4dc7-86eb-d3f6dd2d546b
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Aug 19 03:25 8dba8d47-7890-49d3-8dfa-970e1ec52991
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Aug 24 05:48 9c70787a-3529-4b66-be2e-7b1b5aa92b02
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Aug 19 23:29 b4888539-e835-4f21-97f5-2fc856be6ecf
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        230 Aug 13 06:39 box
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Aug 22 03:05 c93cef28-3cc4-42d8-88d5-0f581dff74a2
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root        946 Sep  4 05:00 ea2ee30a-8d3b-4a3b-8817-19b0f1e17bd7
                                          -rw-r--r--  1 root       root       1.1K Aug 13 06:39 platform
                                          

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                                          Dustin Dauncey
                                          www.d19.ca

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