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How to use without getting warned?

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    • scookeS Offline
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      How has this managed to remain on the Store? How in the world are we supposed to use it? I installed once, and within one day I received a warning notice from my VPS provider who had gotten a warning email that my IP had torrented a movie. Is this not the point of this app?? So how do you all who use it, use it??

      A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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      • scookeS scooke

        How has this managed to remain on the Store? How in the world are we supposed to use it? I installed once, and within one day I received a warning notice from my VPS provider who had gotten a warning email that my IP had torrented a movie. Is this not the point of this app?? So how do you all who use it, use it??

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        @scooke Well, depends on the hosting provider šŸ™‚ Never had any issue, warning, or anything, at OVH / Kimsufi / Online.net / OnePanel

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        • scookeS scooke

          How has this managed to remain on the Store? How in the world are we supposed to use it? I installed once, and within one day I received a warning notice from my VPS provider who had gotten a warning email that my IP had torrented a movie. Is this not the point of this app?? So how do you all who use it, use it??

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          @scooke said in How to use without getting warned?:

          How has this managed to remain on the Store? How in the world are we supposed to use it? I installed once, and within one day I received a warning notice from my VPS provider who had gotten a warning email that my IP had torrented a movie. Is this not the point of this app?? So how do you all who use it, use it??

          You don’t, in my opinion and I don’t understand what any if the ā€žarrrā€ apps are doing here (except creating legal trouble for @girish and @nebulon, see my posts that I linked). They make not much sense to me on a server, anyway, rather on your machine at home with a VPN.

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            I've stopped torrenting altogether because there are a ton of streaming sites that have everything I've been looking for. I have an LG TV (WebOS) and I stream the movies through the browser. It works great, never lags or buffers, and I haven't gotten any letters from my ISP. I'm too lazy to set up the VPN on the router and that would eliminate the risk but AFAIK, streaming isn't illegal, only downloading is. I don't want to share the streaming site publicly but send me a DM if anyone is interested.

            P.S. If you have a WebOS based TV, you can stream media from your PC directly to the TV by right clicking the media file --> Cast to Device --> Choose the TV from the list and voila!

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              I am strongly opposed to removing tools and software using any protocols.

              What is illegal in a country can be legal in another.

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                How is CouchPotato any different from SickChill or Transmission?

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                • ruihildtR ruihildt

                  I am strongly opposed to removing tools and software using any protocols.

                  What is illegal in a country can be legal in another.

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                  @ruihildt said in How to use without getting warned?:

                  I am strongly opposed to removing tools and software using any protocols.

                  What is illegal in a country can be legal in another.

                  Can you name a country where torrenting copyrighted material is currently legal?

                  And for Girish and Nebulon it’s only relevant whether it’s (il)legal in the relevant jurisdiction which is Germany (as Cloudron UG is incorporated there).

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                  • ? A Former User

                    How is CouchPotato any different from SickChill or Transmission?

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                    @hillside502 said in How to use without getting warned?:

                    How is CouchPotato any different from SickChill or Transmission?

                    Couchpotato is not, it’s also intended to share copyrighted material.
                    Transmission in a sense is neutral as you can share all sorts of things, e.g. theoretically legal stuff like the famous Linus ISOs everyone is sharing 😊

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                    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                      @hillside502 said in How to use without getting warned?:

                      How is CouchPotato any different from SickChill or Transmission?

                      Couchpotato is not, it’s also intended to share copyrighted material.
                      Transmission in a sense is neutral as you can share all sorts of things, e.g. theoretically legal stuff like the famous Linus ISOs everyone is sharing 😊

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                      @necrevistonnezr Copyrights length are not the same everywhere. So according to your jurisdiction, it can be legal or not to download a movie.

                      And there are movies in the public domain, and every year more movies (and others 'materials') get back yo the public domain.

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                      • ruihildtR ruihildt

                        @necrevistonnezr Copyrights length are not the same everywhere. So according to your jurisdiction, it can be legal or not to download a movie.

                        And there are movies in the public domain, and every year more movies (and others 'materials') get back yo the public domain.

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                        @ruihildt said in How to use without getting warned?:

                        @necrevistonnezr Copyrights length are not the same everywhere. So according to your jurisdiction, it can be legal or not to download a movie.

                        Downloading is not the issue, torrenting is both ways, uploading & downloading.

                        Again: Can you name a country where torrenting copyrighted material is currently legal?

                        And again, I don’t care if a customer of Cloudron gets into legal trouble - I only care about the Cloudron crew and the project. To them, German law mostly relevant, though trouble can come from many other jurisdictions.

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                        • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                          @ruihildt said in How to use without getting warned?:

                          @necrevistonnezr Copyrights length are not the same everywhere. So according to your jurisdiction, it can be legal or not to download a movie.

                          Downloading is not the issue, torrenting is both ways, uploading & downloading.

                          Again: Can you name a country where torrenting copyrighted material is currently legal?

                          And again, I don’t care if a customer of Cloudron gets into legal trouble - I only care about the Cloudron crew and the project. To them, German law mostly relevant, though trouble can come from many other jurisdictions.

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                          @necrevistonnezr Actually I can, WTO has allowed Antigua & Barbuda to disregard USA copyright, because of a trade dispute regarding gambling.

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                            @necrevistonnezr Actually I can, WTO has allowed Antigua & Barbuda to disregard USA copyright, because of a trade dispute regarding gambling.

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                            Looks like Marshall Islands have no copyright laws at all.

                            Also see Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries'_copyright_lengths

                            Not all countries follow Berne convention, and eventually copyrights do expire.

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                            • ruihildtR ruihildt

                              @necrevistonnezr Actually I can, WTO has allowed Antigua & Barbuda to disregard USA copyright, because of a trade dispute regarding gambling.

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                              @ruihildt said in How to use without getting warned?:

                              @necrevistonnezr Actually I can, WTO has allowed Antigua & Barbuda to disregard USA copyright, because of a trade dispute regarding gambling.

                              That’s what I thought - the majority of (commercially) relevant countries… 😁

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                                @ruihildt said in How to use without getting warned?:

                                @necrevistonnezr Actually I can, WTO has allowed Antigua & Barbuda to disregard USA copyright, because of a trade dispute regarding gambling.

                                That’s what I thought - the majority of (commercially) relevant countries… 😁

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                                @necrevistonnezr said in How to use without getting warned?:

                                @necrevistonnezr Actually I can, WTO has allowed Antigua & Barbuda to disregard USA copyright, because of a trade dispute regarding gambling.

                                That’s what I thought - the majority of (commercially) relevant countries… 😁

                                I simply answered your question accurately and slightly tongue in cheek. šŸ˜‰

                                But my main point stand, what is legal and copyrighted is different according to where you're living and at what point in time.

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                                  I'm going to post this guide here since we're talking about torrenting:

                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/fwgvsb/windows_10_best_privacy_practices/

                                  There's a section (#P2P Anti Piracy Block Lists) in there that'll help torrenters stay safe without a VPN.

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                                    Thanks for chiming in everyone. In the end I couldn't figure out how to set a destination folder, it kept defaulting to /home/cloudron, but I couldn't determine if that was / on the actual disk, or / within the app. And it just seemed like all the search options were mostly torrenting sites, so I just deleted it. I do torrent, but legit items like large iso's and the like. Cheers!

                                    A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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