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    LoudLemur
    wrote on last edited by LoudLemur
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    Lokinet is like a more secure, low-latency alternative to TOR.

    https://lokinet.org/

    Lokinet, developed by the Oxen team, will soon be supported on the secure messaging application, Session:

    https://getsession.org

    You can get in touch with the Lokinet developers using Session, try KeeJef here:

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    • L LoudLemur

      Lokinet is like a more secure, low-latency alternative to TOR.

      https://lokinet.org/

      Lokinet, developed by the Oxen team, will soon be supported on the secure messaging application, Session:

      https://getsession.org

      You can get in touch with the Lokinet developers using Session, try KeeJef here:

      05d871fc80ca007eed9b2f4df72853e2a2d5465a92fcb1889fb5c84aa2833b3b40

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      timconsidine
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      @loudlemur : how would that work in terms of a Cloudron app ? Something like a VPN, we connect e.g. a browser to the instance, which then does the connection onwards ?

      Sorry for the dumb question.

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        @loudlemur : how would that work in terms of a Cloudron app ? Something like a VPN, we connect e.g. a browser to the instance, which then does the connection onwards ?

        Sorry for the dumb question.

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        LoudLemur
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        @timconsidine
        Hey, thanks for asking!

        Yes, running Lokinet is a bit like running a VPN. (You actually might have trouble connecting to Lokinet if you are using a VPN at the same time, so it is worth testing.)

        If you run lokinet on your home computer and then go online, it is a bit like you are using TOR to go on the internet and visit webpages.

        You can run applications on Lokinet too.

        Lokinet is easy enough to setup on a machine at home, but people might want to deploy it on a rented VPS so Cloudron might be able to help there.

        At the moment, there is one main exit node for Lokinet, run by the developers.

        https://oxen.io/session-lokinet
        https://github.com/oxen-io

        If people are curious, I think the thing to do is join the community using Session (which is a great alternative to Telegram, for example) and chat with the developers and community there, who will be able to offer much better answers than I could.

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          @timconsidine
          Hey, thanks for asking!

          Yes, running Lokinet is a bit like running a VPN. (You actually might have trouble connecting to Lokinet if you are using a VPN at the same time, so it is worth testing.)

          If you run lokinet on your home computer and then go online, it is a bit like you are using TOR to go on the internet and visit webpages.

          You can run applications on Lokinet too.

          Lokinet is easy enough to setup on a machine at home, but people might want to deploy it on a rented VPS so Cloudron might be able to help there.

          At the moment, there is one main exit node for Lokinet, run by the developers.

          https://oxen.io/session-lokinet
          https://github.com/oxen-io

          If people are curious, I think the thing to do is join the community using Session (which is a great alternative to Telegram, for example) and chat with the developers and community there, who will be able to offer much better answers than I could.

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          timconsidine
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          @loudlemur that's good, thank you

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            https://github.com/oxen-io/lokinet

            https://lokinet.io

            This is better than Tor in many ways, works for any apps and works at a lower level in the OSI stack, and lets you run private Apps on yourapp.loki TLD.

            Running a node as an App would be one option, another is to host your clearnet apps on lokinet via the same node.

            Private email, private chat, private mumble (voice), etc.

            Conscious tech

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            • L LoudLemur

              Lokinet is like a more secure, low-latency alternative to TOR.

              https://lokinet.org/

              Lokinet, developed by the Oxen team, will soon be supported on the secure messaging application, Session:

              https://getsession.org

              You can get in touch with the Lokinet developers using Session, try KeeJef here:

              05d871fc80ca007eed9b2f4df72853e2a2d5465a92fcb1889fb5c84aa2833b3b40

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              @loudlemur said in Lokinet on Cloudron:

              Lokinet is like a more secure, low-latency alternative to TOR.

              This could be very true from a technical perspective. Can someone point me to code audit, security audit results?

              No disrespect meant to the developers (really none) but security, privacy, anonymity critical software requires more than just trust in statements.

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              • ei8fdbE ei8fdb

                @loudlemur said in Lokinet on Cloudron:

                Lokinet is like a more secure, low-latency alternative to TOR.

                This could be very true from a technical perspective. Can someone point me to code audit, security audit results?

                No disrespect meant to the developers (really none) but security, privacy, anonymity critical software requires more than just trust in statements.

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                @ei8fdb There is a whitepaper here, which might help:

                https://loki.network/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/LokiWhitepaperV3_1.pdf

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                • L LoudLemur

                  Lokinet is like a more secure, low-latency alternative to TOR.

                  https://lokinet.org/

                  Lokinet, developed by the Oxen team, will soon be supported on the secure messaging application, Session:

                  https://getsession.org

                  You can get in touch with the Lokinet developers using Session, try KeeJef here:

                  05d871fc80ca007eed9b2f4df72853e2a2d5465a92fcb1889fb5c84aa2833b3b40

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                  LoudLemur
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                  @LoudLemur

                  https://github.com/oxen-io/oxen-docker

                  Lokinet Docker support is currently highly experimental. Docker tries to blackbox many things that Lokinet tries to do.

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                    Another possibility is to see how well Cloudron could work serving up web resources over Lokinet.

                    So, you would create a Cloudron instance and provide it a Lokinet address instead of a standard .com one.

                    @girish, would the cloudron instance creation wizard accept a non-standard address? For example, something like this:

                    dw68y1xhptqbhcm5s8aaaip6dbopykagig5q5u1za4c7pzxto77y.loki
                    

                    Would it be much trouble to have the ready-to-go Cloudrons offered on hosting Market places like Linode's include a Lokinet (or i2p or ygdrassil) option in the dialogue?

                    There look like there could be some stumbling blocks with the self-signed certificate.

                    https://docs.cloudron.io/installation/

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                      Another possibility is to see how well Cloudron could work serving up web resources over Lokinet.

                      So, you would create a Cloudron instance and provide it a Lokinet address instead of a standard .com one.

                      @girish, would the cloudron instance creation wizard accept a non-standard address? For example, something like this:

                      dw68y1xhptqbhcm5s8aaaip6dbopykagig5q5u1za4c7pzxto77y.loki
                      

                      Would it be much trouble to have the ready-to-go Cloudrons offered on hosting Market places like Linode's include a Lokinet (or i2p or ygdrassil) option in the dialogue?

                      There look like there could be some stumbling blocks with the self-signed certificate.

                      https://docs.cloudron.io/installation/

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                      doodlemania2
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                      I've been running Lokinet for some period of time. Love it for all the reasons mentioned by others. I think it might be as simple as binding CR to the network device created by Lokinet. I've always wanted to try it, but been too scared 😉

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