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    What's happening with PaperMerge or OCR?

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    • J
      jtippetts last edited by

      Hello everyone, I'm new to the community and loving everything about Cloudron so far. I'm surprised to see that there are so few options for document storage and management? Specifically a program that does OCR like PaperMerge. Like a lot of people I've made it a goal to go as paperless as possible in this next year and a program like PaperMerge or Paperless-ng seems like it would be a perfect fit for a self hosted program like Cloudron.

      Is there a reason there isn't already an app like this packaged? Maybe its just too resource hungry for this? Since its not already packaged is there a way to custom add it through Docker somehow? I'm totally new to this but I'm willing to try and grind out an install if its not too deep into the weeds for a beginner.

      Any insight is appreciated.

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      • neurokrish
        neurokrish @jtippetts last edited by

        @jtippetts check this out - https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1121/paperless-indexing-and-archiving-scanned-documents/44

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        • timconsidine
          timconsidine App Dev @jtippetts last edited by

          @jtippetts Maybe officially packaged apps not available
          But custom packages are
          I'm using Paperless : check out https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/paperless-ng

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          • J
            jtippetts @timconsidine last edited by

            @timconsidine Thank you! I appreciate that. I'll see if I can try to figure out how to get a custom app loaded.

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            • timconsidine
              timconsidine App Dev @jtippetts last edited by

              @jtippetts : generally straight forward if someone has packaged the app already

              • install cloudron CLI on your local computer and connect your PC to your cloudron account : see https://docs.cloudron.io/custom-apps/tutorial/?support_view
              • install Docker for your local computer (and docker-compose if you want)
              • open an account on Docker which gives your repo-name (needed below)
              • create a directory on your local computer
              • change into it
              • download the app repo files into it
              • run docker build -t <repo-name>/<app-name>:<tag-name> .
                • replace <repo-name>, <app-name> and <tag-name> in the command
                • <tag-name> can be anything to distinguish different builds ( I usually use YYMMDDa)
                • remember the trailing dot in the command
              • after building, run docker push <repo-name>/<app-name>:<tag-name>
              • run cloudron install --image <repo-name>/<app-name>:<tag-name>
              • follow the prompts

              Generally that gets you an installation of the custom non-official app.

              Shout if you get errors.

              Hope this is not too late to be useful.

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              • doodlemania2
                doodlemania2 App Dev @timconsidine last edited by

                @timconsidine Hi yall - paperless-ng seems to have stalled upstream, but the current build is what i've been using and i have north of 20,000 docs loaded and indexed and ocrd - it's fantastic 🙂

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                • girish
                  girish Staff @doodlemania2 last edited by

                  @doodlemania2 are you still using https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/paperless-ng ?

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                  • doodlemania2
                    doodlemania2 App Dev @girish last edited by

                    @girish yep!

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                    • doodlemania2
                      doodlemania2 App Dev @doodlemania2 last edited by

                      @doodlemania2 I do appear to have unpushed changes but the only thing I've done recently was bump the image to 3.0. My version is 1.5.0.

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                      • nebulon
                        nebulon Staff @doodlemania2 last edited by

                        @doodlemania2 would be awesome, if you could push your pending changes. I have just looked into your repo and tried to improve towards an official package. On the way I have seen the superuser account creation being manual, so I have also created an upstream issue about how to automate this https://github.com/jonaswinkler/paperless-ng/issues/1531

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                        • doodlemania2
                          doodlemania2 App Dev @nebulon last edited by

                          @nebulon oh awesome! as soon as i sort my git issue i will do so. may go with copy/pasta haha

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                          • timconsidine
                            timconsidine App Dev @doodlemania2 last edited by

                            @doodlemania2 yes, I'm very happy with my installation of custom package. Definitely stable and production ready. If it can be made an official packaged app, that would be awesome.

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                            • jdaviescoates
                              jdaviescoates @doodlemania2 last edited by

                              @doodlemania2 said in What's happening with PaperMerge or OCR?:

                              @timconsidine Hi yall - paperless-ng seems to have stalled upstream, but the current build is what i've been using and i have north of 20,000 docs loaded and indexed and ocrd - it's fantastic 🙂

                              Sounds great!

                              I guess I could use this to index everything in my existing PDF library to make it all more searchable and easier to find things, right?

                              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                              • neurokrish
                                neurokrish @jdaviescoates last edited by neurokrish

                                @jdaviescoates yes. Not only PDF files but also images, text files, etc. Once OCR'd, they are all available in a nice web interface for you to search. Surely will be a great addition to Cloudron!

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                                • doodlemania2
                                  doodlemania2 App Dev @nebulon last edited by

                                  @nebulon I've updated to the latest and greatest from my local source - it's now exactly what I'm running locally.

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                                  • J
                                    jtippetts last edited by

                                    Before I go crazy trying to do a custom install, it sounds like this is something that's very close to being ready to add to the list of supported apps from the app store? Is that possible in the near future or should I spend my weekend trying to figure this out?

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                                    • timconsidine
                                      timconsidine App Dev @jtippetts last edited by

                                      @jtippetts I don't think it need a weekend, if you follow the steps I outlined. And even if it is close, I suspect it ill still be a while.

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                                      • robi
                                        robi @jtippetts last edited by

                                        @jtippetts as this month is not a packaging month for the Cloudron team, it's one of the upcoming ones. 🙂

                                        Life of Advanced Technology

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                                        • J
                                          jtippetts @timconsidine last edited by

                                          @timconsidine ...so I think I almost have this done. I ran the last cloudron install step and its asking me for a location. Anyone know what location its asking for specifically?

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                                          • J
                                            jtippetts @timconsidine last edited by

                                            @timconsidine I figured out the location but I ended up with one last error.

                                            App is being installed.

                                            => Queued .
                                            => Registering subdomains
                                            => Registering location: paperless.tippetts.vegas
                                            => Downloading image

                                            App installation error: Installation failed: Unable to pull image <repo-name>/paperless-ng. message: (HTTP code 404) unexpected - pull access denied for <repo-name>/paperless-ng, repository does not exist or may require 'docker login': denied: requested access to the resource is denied statusCode: 404

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                                            • neurokrish
                                              neurokrish @timconsidine last edited by

                                              @timconsidine quick question. So, if we install a custom app like this in Cloudron, what happens when this app is made available from the Cloudron appstore? Will the new app integrate with this one seamlessly (for updates and stuff) or will it be a totally new app requiring us to reconfigure everything?

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                                              • J
                                                jtippetts last edited by

                                                @timconsidine @doodlemania2 Hey guys, I just wanted to let you know I got this successfully installed! Thank you so much for your help. The fact that Cloudron gives people the ability to customize it for their exact use case is incredible. Many thanks to the entire community!

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                                                • doodlemania2
                                                  doodlemania2 App Dev @jtippetts last edited by

                                                  @jtippetts horray!

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                                                  • doodlemania2
                                                    doodlemania2 App Dev @neurokrish last edited by

                                                    @neurokrish I may be able to assist here - I'll submit my package to the app store and I think that will fix custom to app store update (but maybe not hehe)

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                                                    • timconsidine
                                                      timconsidine App Dev @jtippetts last edited by timconsidine

                                                      @jtippetts congratulations ! 🍾

                                                      I knew you would get there.
                                                      (sorry, was away from computer a lot recently)

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                                                      • nebulon
                                                        nebulon Staff last edited by

                                                        Since paperless-ng was discussed in this thread, I have now published the app package from @doodlemania2 with a few fixes as unstable to the library! Thanks a lot @doodlemania2 🙂

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                                                        • neurokrish
                                                          neurokrish @nebulon last edited by

                                                          @nebulon and @doodlemania2 thank you for this!

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