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    @timconsidine In my tests, the delay on my Peertube instance is almost 28 seconds. There is a potential for performance 🙂

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    @nebulon said in Jitsi session recording:

    @timconsidine yes, as far as I understand this requires the jibri component, which is not installed or configured within the app package yet.

    Is this something that's planned to be done, or is this a module we can install ourselves, I think the recording module for some specific meetings is something very important.
    Thanks


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    @micmc said in Jitsi session recording:

    I think the recording module for some specific meetings is something very important.

    +1

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    @luckow said in Jitsi session recording:

    streaming does not work in this package.

    Be good to sort that too.

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    This is currently not working indeed and jibri is not even configured with the current package. The main reason is, that this is essentially done via a chromium instance joining the call and then recording its window. This means we have to install X11 libraries and even audio libs within the app and then this only allows for one recording at the same time. More info here in the Readme

    I kinda prefer to support the jibri option, where one can add jibri instances externally (or maybe also as cloudron app instances) Jibri also is only built against Ubuntu 18.04 it seems. So far I wasn't able to set this up yet for testing.

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    @nebulon so it might be better to use a screencast recording type of local sw while doing a jisti call than a server based jibri thing.

    Is there a desktop version of jibri where the UI & libs are already there?

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    @nebulon said in Jitsi session recording:

    ... we have to install X11 libraries and even audio libs within the app ... More info here in the Readme

    Yeah went to check deeper after I posted this and saw that this looks more complicated than said.

    I kinda prefer to support the jibri option, where one can add jibri instances externally (or maybe also as cloudron app instances)

    If I hear you correctly that means we'd need a jibri server installed besides the jitsi install.
    I mean, I also went to explore for the config.js option and there's a section to configure the jibri server indeed.
    So this is something to be tested positively, I'll try shortly and report.

    Jibri also is only built against Ubuntu 18.04 it seems.

    Just like the BBB server, of least the last time I installed one.


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    @robi said in Jitsi session recording:

    @nebulon so it might be better to use a screencast recording type of local sw while doing a jisti call than a server based jibri thing.

    Is there a desktop version of jibri where the UI & libs are already there?

    This is how zoom works. That should be the best way I think I saw there's a desktop version of jitsi I'm gonna check on this as well.


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    @robi

    I think I saw there's a desktop version of jitsi I'm gonna check on this as well.

    Yep, and there's one for all taste apparently
    https://desktop.jitsi.org/index.html


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    Well, all that being said, finally when you think about that, it's very feasible to use OBS to record the meeting session from one's desktop whether using jitsi desktop or jitsi meet through browser.

    Yes. Simply add the meeting session as a component of your OBS presentation and poom! you start recording in OBS. Done.

    On the other hand, it might more difficult to accomplish from a mobile session and that is where jibri would comes in I guess.


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    @micmc said in Jitsi session recording:

    @robi

    I think I saw there's a desktop version of jitsi I'm gonna check on this as well.

    Yep, and there's one for all taste apparently
    https://desktop.jitsi.org/index.html

    That's not what you think it is.

    It's actually a completely separate SIP client, nothing to do with Jitsi Meet. Unfortunate branding/naming.

    And quite outdated: https://desktop.jitsi.org/Main/Features.html

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    @robi said in Jitsi session recording:

    @micmc said in Jitsi session recording:

    @robi

    I think I saw there's a desktop version of jitsi I'm gonna check on this as well.

    Yep, and there's one for all taste apparently
    https://desktop.jitsi.org/index.html

    That's not what you think it is.

    It's actually a completely separate SIP client, nothing to do with Jitsi Meet.

    And quite outdated: https://desktop.jitsi.org/Main/Features.html

    You're right it's not what I thought, and verily has nothing to do at all with Jitsi Meet at closer look. 😞

    Unfortunate branding/naming.

    Yeah, wtf ??? lol


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    Hey @staff is there any plan to get Jitsi Meet recording working in the Cloudron package? 🙏

    I really want to start recording some of the calls/ meetings I'm having.

    And, in the meantime for now, whilst the package doesn't include recording, what's the best/ easiest way to do a recording?

    Thanks!

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    @jdaviescoates imho for the moment -> https://forum.cloudron.io/post/36376 🙂

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    @luckow hmz, thanks, that does look very good, but I'd much rather do it on Cloudron so I've got LDAP, backups, updates etc.

    I wonder if @Benoit knows if adding Jibri to the Cloudron Jitsi package is already in the pipeline given he (they https://medias-cite.coop/ ) sponsored the package? 🙂

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    @jdaviescoates Maybe you can use a desktop recording software like OBS for now. From there, you can upload it to Youtube if you want.

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    @jdaviescoates the jitsi main app would still run on Cloudron, however only the jibri component, which per-instance can only do one recording at a time, will have to be off Cloudron.

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    @humptydumpty said in Jitsi session recording:

    @jdaviescoates Maybe you can use a desktop recording software like OBS for now. From there, you can upload it to Youtube if you want.

    Thanks, I started playing around with OBS whilst testing out the OwnCast app.

    I just tried using it to record a jitsi meeting too. Seemed to work but couldn't quickly work out how to stop the audio feedback - do you happen to know?! (I guess using headphones would do it, but there must be another way)

    Edit: I resolved my feedback issues by checking the Control audio via OBS box:

    Screenshot from 2022-06-28 13-30-44.png

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    @nebulon said in Jitsi session recording:

    @jdaviescoates the jitsi main app would still run on Cloudron, however only the jibri component, which per-instance can only do one recording at a time, will have to be off Cloudron.

    I'm a little confused.

    Are you saying I could use my Cloudron Jitsi Meet app in conjunction with Jibri set-up using https://github.com/switnet-ltd/quick-jibri-installer as shared by @luckow ?

    And/ or something about why it's not possible to add Jibri to the Cloudron Jitsi Meet app?

    Thanks!

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    I haven't tried this in practice myself, but as far as I understood the setup, the jibri component is standalone and essentially can participate as a silent/hidden user in conferences. It would join via a headless chromium and use that to record the session. This usually requires hardware acceleration to be any good as well as it can only join one session a time, which is why multiple jibri instances are required for multiple recordings in parallel. Given that complexity and also little demand, it makes more sense to use the default upstream install docs for this part and connect it with the Cloudron installed main jitsi-meet instance.

    I guess overall we have to set this up once and fully document that in our jitsi docs.

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