Automatic updates fail until I retry update/configure task

[eyecreate]

@girish I have changed the update schedule and will get back with you if I notice nothing has changed.

[eyecreate]

After changing the update schedule, updates are still failing without manual repair/retry.

[jdaviescoates]

I just noticed I think I've had this issue with my n8n apps, but not for anything else as far as I can tell. Strange.

Actually, looks like maybe Minio has been having this issue too: I've got auto-updates available, but it says it hasn't been updated in 11 months!

(ah, but maybe that's because it's a major update so it wasn't auto-updating on purpose. Perhaps that explains n8n too?)

[girish]

@jdaviescoates yes, minio is intentionally not auto-updating. This is because needs a new API domain. n8n also saw a major update because it gained user management (proxyAuth got removed).

[girish]

@eyecreate can you contact us on support@cloudron.io, we have to investigate on the server further.

[girish]

Spent some time debugging this. The issue is that DNS queries from unbound just fail randomly.

For example:

root@my:~# host production.cloudflare.docker.com 127.0.0.1
Using domain server:
Name: 127.0.0.1
Address: 127.0.0.1#53
Aliases: 

production.cloudflare.docker.com has address 104.18.121.25
production.cloudflare.docker.com has address 104.18.124.25
production.cloudflare.docker.com has address 104.18.122.25
production.cloudflare.docker.com has address 104.18.125.25
production.cloudflare.docker.com has address 104.18.123.25
Host production.cloudflare.docker.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

The last NXDOMAIN causes a problem. Trying to trace unbound:

May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] info: 0RDd mod2 rep production.cloudflare.docker.com. MX IN
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: cache memory msg=154570 rrset=186541 infra=37659 val=88932 subnet=74504
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: answer cb
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: Incoming reply id = 173e
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: Incoming reply addr = ip4 192.54.112.30 port 53 (len 16)
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: lookup size is 1 entries
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: received udp reply.
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: udp message[128:0] 173E818300010000000100010A636C6F7564666C61726506646F636B657203636F6D0000010001C01700060001000003840042066E732D32303709617773646E732D3235C01E11617773646E732D686F73746D617374657206616D617A6F6EC01E0000000100001C200000038400127500000151800000290200000080000000
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: outnet handle udp reply
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: measured roundtrip at 18 msec
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: svcd callbacks start
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: worker svcd callback for qstate 0x55a4a9166c60
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: mesh_run: start
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: iterator[module 2] operate: extstate:module_wait_reply event:module_event_reply
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] info: iterator operate: query production.cloudflare.docker.com. MX IN
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: process_response: new external response event
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] info: scrub for com. NS IN
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] info: response for production.cloudflare.docker.com. MX IN
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] info: reply from <com.> 192.54.112.30#53
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] info: incoming scrubbed packet: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NXDOMAIN, id: 0
                                                  ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
                                                  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                                  cloudflare.docker.com.        IN      A

                                                  ;; ANSWER SECTION:

                                                  ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                                  docker.com.   30      IN      SOA     ns-207.awsdns-25.com. awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com. 1 7200 900 1209600 86400

                                                  ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                                  ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 117
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: iter_handle processing q with state QUERY RESPONSE STATE
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] info: query response was NXDOMAIN ANSWER
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] debug: iter_handle processing q with state FINISHED RESPONSE STATE
May 26 17:55:54  unbound[687925]: [687925:0] info: finishing processing for production.cloudflare.docker.com. MX IN

That root server response (192.54.112.30 - h.gtld-servers.net) is NXDOMAIN. In fact, all the root queries fail randomly now and then this way. It seems there is something which is hijacking DNS responses in the network. Indeed, this is in some private network, so maybe the ISP or some firewall in the middle is trying to prevent DNS DDoS or something and hijacking requests.

As a workaround, I configured to send all requests to Cloudflare and that works now. Created /etc/unbound/unbound.conf.d/private-dns.conf and then systemctl restart unbound:

# forward all queries to cloudflare
forward-zone:
  name: "."
  forward-addr: 1.1.1.1

[girish]

A stranger on the internet faced the exact issue - https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/o0rp2k/unbound_suddenly_failed_to_resolve_domain/

[eyecreate]

@girish Glad you found a source and workaround. I wonder if the ISP or I have a custom DNS for the network causing that issue.

[girish]

@eyecreate Is your custom DNS part of your router?

[eyecreate]

@girish I checked, and there is nothing set there, so it's what the ISP is providing.