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  3. My Kutt was hacked! How? Check yours!!

My Kutt was hacked! How? Check yours!!

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  • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

    @infogulch said in My Kutt was hacked! How? Check yours!!:

    maybe it deserves to be highlighted more prominently in the install notes, or the default adjusted.

    The Problem is you need to have registration enabled by default, because otherwise you can't sign up on the first run.

    Already added a PR for a post install note.
    https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/kutt-app/-/merge_requests/1

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    girish
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    @BrutalBirdie thanks! Merged and pushed an update.

    Also, https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/kutt/#registration

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    • girishG girish

      @BrutalBirdie thanks! Merged and pushed an update.

      Also, https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/kutt/#registration

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      @girish Perhaps we should consider looking at all apps across the portfolio for open signups (like VaultWarden which bit me a few weeks back) and disable them as part of our app onboarding?

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      • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

        @girish Perhaps we should consider looking at all apps across the portfolio for open signups (like VaultWarden which bit me a few weeks back) and disable them as part of our app onboarding?

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        @doodlemania2 registration is almost always disabled by default. But some apps like Kutt won't allow anyone to sign up, if registration is disabled.

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        • timconsidineT timconsidine

          I have a Kutt implementation.
          Actually it only had ONE link in use.
          Tonight I received a take-down notice because a malicious link had been inserted into the system's database.
          Along with 4 others.

          I have :

          • deleted the links
          • reset user password
          • ensured API access is not on.

          But how did they get the 5 bad links into the database??
          I tried to check the access.log for apache and nginx.
          But they are zero-length. Is logging not automatic ?

          Questions :

          • how do I check how they did this ?
          • any other remedial or preventive action I should take ?
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          @timconsidine this got me too. was looking for a shortener i could iframe into a client dashboard so through kutt up. I don't know how bad or if im still infected but a day or two after setting it up, all my links started to time out - they were being blocked by my browser. at the same time, I lost admin access on a totally different wp site :S i deleted kutt before i thought to investigate.

          definitely reminded me as to the importance of security. i still cant get my orginal link shortener (installed on a lamp stack) to work - im worried i got the domains banned or something 😞

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          • P plains.digital

            @timconsidine this got me too. was looking for a shortener i could iframe into a client dashboard so through kutt up. I don't know how bad or if im still infected but a day or two after setting it up, all my links started to time out - they were being blocked by my browser. at the same time, I lost admin access on a totally different wp site :S i deleted kutt before i thought to investigate.

            definitely reminded me as to the importance of security. i still cant get my orginal link shortener (installed on a lamp stack) to work - im worried i got the domains banned or something 😞

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            @plains-digital may not be be as bad as you think
            I appealed against some blocks and responded to incoming abuse notifications and got it cleaned up.
            Kutt works well so don't be afraid to try it again - just turn off registrations.

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            • timconsidineT timconsidine

              @plains-digital may not be be as bad as you think
              I appealed against some blocks and responded to incoming abuse notifications and got it cleaned up.
              Kutt works well so don't be afraid to try it again - just turn off registrations.

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              @timconsidine my clients domain is STILL pointing at two dodgy IPs 😞

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              • P plains.digital

                @timconsidine my clients domain is STILL pointing at two dodgy IPs 😞

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                @plains-digital another thread here about Netcup had some comments about cleaning ip addresses.

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                  hey @timconsidine this just happened to me today.

                  There was a couple of dodgy URLS probably because of the registration option I didn't check at install. I have the service down, but I wonder if there's any way to check and remove the spam users before getting the service up. I don't know how to explore the postgres db.

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                    @chetbaker with 8.0.0, we have a new app notes feature. The notes get prepopulated with installation checklist.

                    As for postgresql, it seems to be quite easy to navigate:

                    db9e43bf3baf7640a8bf1b7316dee0fc89=> \dt
                                                  List of relations
                     Schema |         Name         | Type  |                Owner                 
                    --------+----------------------+-------+--------------------------------------
                     public | domains              | table | user9e43bf3baf7640a8bf1b7316dee0fc89
                     public | hosts                | table | user9e43bf3baf7640a8bf1b7316dee0fc89
                     public | ips                  | table | user9e43bf3baf7640a8bf1b7316dee0fc89
                     public | knex_migrations      | table | user9e43bf3baf7640a8bf1b7316dee0fc89
                     public | knex_migrations_lock | table | user9e43bf3baf7640a8bf1b7316dee0fc89
                     public | links                | table | user9e43bf3baf7640a8bf1b7316dee0fc89
                     public | users                | table | user9e43bf3baf7640a8bf1b7316dee0fc89
                     public | visits               | table | user9e43bf3baf7640a8bf1b7316dee0fc89
                    (8 rows)
                    
                    db9e43bf3baf7640a8bf1b7316dee0fc89=> select * from links;
                    db9e43bf3baf7640a8bf1b7316dee0fc89=> select * from users;
                    
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                      Thanks @girish. Just for the record, the command to remove entries is (after identified the users on the users table using the command @girish shared (in my case 4, 5, 6 and 7):

                      DELETE FROM users WHERE id IN (4, 5, 6, 7);
                      
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