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More control over DNS features.

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    Reoccuring problem with the automatic DNS features on Cloudron is that they will overwrite my MX records... so on one hand, it is really convenient that Cloudron can provision an A record, and it is really inconvenient that one click on the wrong button and it will overwrite my mx records.

    It would be amazing if I could set restrictions allowing cloudron to write only A records and TXT records, leaving the MX for me to manage manually.

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    @roofboard From what I've been told, Cloudron shouldn't be touching any records that where already there. This may be a bug, instead of a feature request.

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    @murgero said in More control over DNS features.:

    Cloudron shouldn't be touching any records that where already there.

    At least not without warning first

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    @jdaviescoates
    I can confirm that yesterday and many times before it wiped out my gmail mx records which is especially frustrating because I have cloudron mx records configured in google admin.

    Also, more reasonably it will overwrite an A record all day long.

    In addition to that I have seen it overwrite my Dmarc policy which can be kinda annoying if you have dmarc records hosted through a tool like mx toolbox...

    That is for both S3 and Cloudflare

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    @roofboard said in More control over DNS features.:

    Also, more reasonably it will overwrite an A record all day long.

    Personally I've always seen warnings before it overwrites any existing records.

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    So this is happening without any manual interventions like installing an app for the mentioned A record?

    Do you happen to have dynamic DNS checkbox enabled?

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    @nebulon
    Dynamic DNS is not enabled.
    And yes there is manual intervention I could click "update dns settings" I am a little OCD and get frustrated staring at red dots because I have a custom configuration here and there.

    And just wish there was a way to tell cloudron "hey I know you think this record is wrong, but trust me its right and good" Or tell cloudron, "hey you can update A records and txt records but MX records those are off limits" or maybe a custom config file similar to a local hosts file where we could go in and take a record relationship and just straight up override it. This would enable configurations with load balancers, email routers, and hosted dmark utilities.

    Normally I just set the DNS settings of Cloudron to manual, but I wish I did not have to do that. Especially because it always think I am wrong.

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    @roofboard said in More control over DNS features.:

    Reoccuring problem with the automatic DNS features on Cloudron is that they will overwrite my MX records

    We need to take a step back. Cloudron does not overwrite MX records. Can you tell me:

    • Which DNS provider you are using?
    • Can you confirm that email is not enabled for the domain in question on Cloudron ? Cloudron will only setup MX records if email is enabled for the domain.
    • If email is enabled and for whatever reason you want MX to point elsewhere... I need to understand why you want email enabled but want the MX pointing elsewhere. Is this spam filtering related?
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    @girish
    Which DNS provider you are using?

    1. I am using cloudflare, but I have also had this issue with route53
      Is email enabled.
    2. Yes, my primary inboxes are google inboxes, but I have configured gmail to use cloudron as a catch-all email server using routing rules.
    3. On the subject of controls... I can also imagine situations where I would want to use a load balancer, or hosted spf service which again will trick Cloudron into thinking everything is set up wrong.
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    @roofboard said in More control over DNS features.:

    Is email enabled.
    Yes, my primary inboxes are google inboxes, but I have configured gmail to use cloudron as a catch-all email server using routing rules.

    I think this is what is confusing Cloudron code. Email is hosted outside Cloudron but Cloudron is also enabled as email server.

    Do you think you can a post a screenshot or equivalent of how one configures gmail to use Cloudron as catch-all email server ?

    Also, why exactly do you do this setup? Like one has to remember which mail server a mailbox resides in to login now?

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