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  • C cortex

    SimpleX Chat - The first messenger without user IDs
    SMP-Server for SimpleX Chat. A docker container already exists https://hub.docker.com/r/simplexchat/simplexmq

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    privsec
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    #2

    @cortex according to their posts on Reddit, it’s still in active development and not prod ready.

    However this is one I would love as well as a snikket instance setup for jmp.chat

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    • C cortex

      SimpleX Chat - The first messenger without user IDs
      SMP-Server for SimpleX Chat. A docker container already exists https://hub.docker.com/r/simplexchat/simplexmq

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      RoundHouse1924
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      #3

      @cortex
      simplexchat/smp-server - Docker Image | Docker Hub has moved to:-
      https://hub.docker.com/r/simplexchat/smp-server

      Self-hoster with Cloudron, Hetzner, Exoscale, Gandi & Porkbun

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        robi
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        #4

        https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplexmq
        https://simplex.chat

        image.png

        Conscious tech

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          robi
          wrote on last edited by robi
          #5

          Just downloaded the mobile app and it's NICE and polished. No desktop app, yet.

          Doesn't need local smp-server and XFTP server as the community ones are pretty good with privacy, but you still can. Can use tor and .onion servers too.

          The install script works on Ubuntu, but will NOT install in our LAMP app as it's particular about the dirs it uses (which you can modify manually by editing the script):

          root@53b4805b-4b58-445c-b775-1e669364cd09:/app/data# curl --proto '=https' --tlsv1.2 -sSf https://raw.githubusercontent.com/simplex-chat/simplexmq/stable/install.sh -o simplex-server-install.sh \
          && if echo 'b8cf2be103f21f9461d9a500bcd3db06ab7d01d68871b07f4bd245195cbead1d simplex-server-install.sh' | sha256sum -c; then chmod +x ./simplex-server-install.sh && ./simplex-server-install.sh; rm ./simplex-server-install.sh; else echo "SHA-256 checksum is incorrect!" && rm ./simplex-server-install.sh; fi
          simplex-server-install.sh: OK
          
           ____  _                 _     __  __
          / ___|(_)_ __ ___  _ __ | | ___\ \/ /
          \___ \| | '_ ` _ \| '_ \| |/ _ \  / 
           ___) | | | | | | | |_) | |  __//  \ 
          |____/|_|_| |_| |_| .__/|_|\___/_/\_\
                            |_|                            
          
          Welcome to SMP/XFTP installation script! Here's what we're going to do:
          1. Install latest binaries from GitHub releases:
              - smp: /usr/local/bin/smp-server
              - xftp: /usr/local/bin/xftp-server
          2. Create server directories:
              - smp: /etc/opt/simplex /var/opt/simplex
              - xftp: /etc/opt/simplex-xftp /var/opt/simplex-xftp /srv/xftp
          3. Setup user for each server:
              - xmp: smp
              - xftp: xftp
          4. Create systemd services:
              - smp: /etc/systemd/system/smp-server.service
              - xftp: /etc/systemd/system/xftp-server.service
          5. Install stopscript (systemd), update and uninstallation script:
              - all: /usr/local/bin/simplex-servers-update, /usr/local/bin/simplex-servers-uninstall, /usr/local/bin/simplex-servers-stopscript
          
          Press ENTER to continue or Ctrl+C to cancel installation
          

          Uhh, and the precompiled binaries want to use /etc/opt and /var/opt:

          root@53b4805b-4b58-445c-b775-1e669364cd09:/app/data/simplex# ./smp-server  init -h
          Usage: smp-server init [-l|--store-log] [-s|--daily-stats] 
                                 [-a|--sign-algorithm ALG] [--ip IP] [-n|--fqdn FQDN] 
                                 [--no-password | --password PASSWORD] [-y|--yes]
            Initialize server - creates /etc/opt/simplex and /var/opt/simplex directories
            and configuration files
          
          Available options:
            -l,--store-log           Enable store log for persistence
            -s,--daily-stats         Enable logging daily server statistics
            -a,--sign-algorithm ALG  Signature algorithm used for TLS certificates:
                                     ED25519, ED448 (default: ED448)
            --ip IP                  Server IP address, used as Common Name for TLS online
                                     certificate if FQDN is not supplied
                                     (default: "127.0.0.1")
            -n,--fqdn FQDN           Server FQDN used as Common Name for TLS online
                                     certificate
            --no-password            Allow creating new queues without password
            --password PASSWORD      Set password to create new messaging queues
            -y,--yes                 Non-interactive initialization using command-line
                                     options
            -h,--help                Show this help text
          

          Conscious tech

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            robi
            wrote on last edited by robi
            #6

            Here are the self-hosting instructions: https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/blob/stable/docs/SERVER.md

            Best to compile from source so you can modify the directory structure for packaging.

            Here's the Dockerfile from the wrapper used in StartOS.

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              robi
              wrote on last edited by robi
              #7

              v5.2 of SimpleX Chat is now released OSS
              https://simplex.chat/blog/20230722-simplex-chat-v5-2-message-delivery-receipts.html

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              • robiR robi

                Just downloaded the mobile app and it's NICE and polished. No desktop app, yet.

                Doesn't need local smp-server and XFTP server as the community ones are pretty good with privacy, but you still can. Can use tor and .onion servers too.

                The install script works on Ubuntu, but will NOT install in our LAMP app as it's particular about the dirs it uses (which you can modify manually by editing the script):

                root@53b4805b-4b58-445c-b775-1e669364cd09:/app/data# curl --proto '=https' --tlsv1.2 -sSf https://raw.githubusercontent.com/simplex-chat/simplexmq/stable/install.sh -o simplex-server-install.sh \
                && if echo 'b8cf2be103f21f9461d9a500bcd3db06ab7d01d68871b07f4bd245195cbead1d simplex-server-install.sh' | sha256sum -c; then chmod +x ./simplex-server-install.sh && ./simplex-server-install.sh; rm ./simplex-server-install.sh; else echo "SHA-256 checksum is incorrect!" && rm ./simplex-server-install.sh; fi
                simplex-server-install.sh: OK
                
                 ____  _                 _     __  __
                / ___|(_)_ __ ___  _ __ | | ___\ \/ /
                \___ \| | '_ ` _ \| '_ \| |/ _ \  / 
                 ___) | | | | | | | |_) | |  __//  \ 
                |____/|_|_| |_| |_| .__/|_|\___/_/\_\
                                  |_|                            
                
                Welcome to SMP/XFTP installation script! Here's what we're going to do:
                1. Install latest binaries from GitHub releases:
                    - smp: /usr/local/bin/smp-server
                    - xftp: /usr/local/bin/xftp-server
                2. Create server directories:
                    - smp: /etc/opt/simplex /var/opt/simplex
                    - xftp: /etc/opt/simplex-xftp /var/opt/simplex-xftp /srv/xftp
                3. Setup user for each server:
                    - xmp: smp
                    - xftp: xftp
                4. Create systemd services:
                    - smp: /etc/systemd/system/smp-server.service
                    - xftp: /etc/systemd/system/xftp-server.service
                5. Install stopscript (systemd), update and uninstallation script:
                    - all: /usr/local/bin/simplex-servers-update, /usr/local/bin/simplex-servers-uninstall, /usr/local/bin/simplex-servers-stopscript
                
                Press ENTER to continue or Ctrl+C to cancel installation
                

                Uhh, and the precompiled binaries want to use /etc/opt and /var/opt:

                root@53b4805b-4b58-445c-b775-1e669364cd09:/app/data/simplex# ./smp-server  init -h
                Usage: smp-server init [-l|--store-log] [-s|--daily-stats] 
                                       [-a|--sign-algorithm ALG] [--ip IP] [-n|--fqdn FQDN] 
                                       [--no-password | --password PASSWORD] [-y|--yes]
                  Initialize server - creates /etc/opt/simplex and /var/opt/simplex directories
                  and configuration files
                
                Available options:
                  -l,--store-log           Enable store log for persistence
                  -s,--daily-stats         Enable logging daily server statistics
                  -a,--sign-algorithm ALG  Signature algorithm used for TLS certificates:
                                           ED25519, ED448 (default: ED448)
                  --ip IP                  Server IP address, used as Common Name for TLS online
                                           certificate if FQDN is not supplied
                                           (default: "127.0.0.1")
                  -n,--fqdn FQDN           Server FQDN used as Common Name for TLS online
                                           certificate
                  --no-password            Allow creating new queues without password
                  --password PASSWORD      Set password to create new messaging queues
                  -y,--yes                 Non-interactive initialization using command-line
                                           options
                  -h,--help                Show this help text
                
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                aessen
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                #8

                @robi I am a huge fan of this app and I am so pleased to be able to play around in it. I know that you mentioned that there is no desktop app proper but I was curious if you had a chance to play around in the Linux CLI version? Seems to me that they are focusing on it to allow a level of functionality that can be embedded but I'll admit this is not my area of expertise. πŸ˜›

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                • aessenA aessen

                  @robi I am a huge fan of this app and I am so pleased to be able to play around in it. I know that you mentioned that there is no desktop app proper but I was curious if you had a chance to play around in the Linux CLI version? Seems to me that they are focusing on it to allow a level of functionality that can be embedded but I'll admit this is not my area of expertise. πŸ˜›

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                  robi
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  @aessen Yes, that's what https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68664 is about. If you run linux as your desktop, the binaries will work, however not in the LAMP app.

                  Someone would need to compile it with different directory defaults to make it work.

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                  • robiR robi

                    @aessen Yes, that's what https://forum.cloudron.io/post/68664 is about. If you run linux as your desktop, the binaries will work, however not in the LAMP app.

                    Someone would need to compile it with different directory defaults to make it work.

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                    aessen
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    @robi ahhh that makes more sense. I figured that that was what your post was referring to and I recognised the Linux CLI look and feel in your post but I am still not as well versed in things to have picked up on the nuances of what your post meant. My bad. πŸ˜›

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                      marcusquinn
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                      #11

                      the SMP server is a good candidate for packaging as an app, should be simple, and help further the decentralisation:

                      • https://simplex.chat/docs/server.html

                      Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                      Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                        marcusquinn
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                        #12

                        Overall, the app seems to be the best of the bunch for ticking all opsec boxes.

                        I can see this becoming the main way AI agents & users communicate, too, as the cli is very friendly, mature, and versatile.

                        Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                        Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                          robi
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                          #13

                          I think ZeroNetX would also be a good fit @marcusquinn
                          All data browsed local, DHT, and human readable interface

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