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  • girishG Offline
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    I guess everyone is aware of the Reddit strike because of the API fees - https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/5/23749188/reddit-subreddit-private-protest-api-changes-apollo-charges .

    Now it's fully down - https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/12/reddit-goes-down-fully/

    Just wanted to put a note here that long ago we debated if we should run our own forum or choose /r/cloudron . Glad we decided to run our own and not disrupt the community!

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    • robiR Offline
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      Way to BE the change in the world. ❤

      Conscious tech

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      • scookeS Offline
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        Good call @girish. I've been trying to not check our reddit due to the strike, but if it is fully down that will help!

        A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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          Hopefully, Discord is next 🤞

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          • girishG girish

            I guess everyone is aware of the Reddit strike because of the API fees - https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/5/23749188/reddit-subreddit-private-protest-api-changes-apollo-charges .

            Now it's fully down - https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/12/reddit-goes-down-fully/

            Just wanted to put a note here that long ago we debated if we should run our own forum or choose /r/cloudron . Glad we decided to run our own and not disrupt the community!

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            @girish well done !

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            • StardenverS Offline
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              Prepare for another run onto the Fediverse.

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              • Sam_ukS Offline
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                I'm looking forward to Kbin on Cloudron

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                • KubernetesK Offline
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                  I am using (and loving!) Kbin as primary Reddit replacement. But I think I will never run it on my Cloudron.

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                  • KubernetesK Kubernetes

                    I am using (and loving!) Kbin as primary Reddit replacement. But I think I will never run it on my Cloudron.

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                    @Kubernetes why is that?

                    Conscious tech

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                    • robiR robi

                      @Kubernetes why is that?

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                      @robi Just for legal and responsibility reasons. To maintain such a service is coming with huge responsibility. As much as I would like to support the Kbin community/eco system, at least as much I am afraid for what it means to be the service provider.

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                      • KubernetesK Kubernetes

                        @robi Just for legal and responsibility reasons. To maintain such a service is coming with huge responsibility. As much as I would like to support the Kbin community/eco system, at least as much I am afraid for what it means to be the service provider.

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                        @Kubernetes can it not be made private?

                        Conscious tech

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                        • robiR robi

                          @Kubernetes can it not be made private?

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                          #12

                          @robi Probably, but that is different from the intention of the service 🙂

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                            Not necessarily, I think THAT'S undoubtedly the benefit of Fediverse Soft. I run my Mastodon Server for me, family and friends only, but they can participate with the rest of the fediverse and still rest assured that no idiotic mega corps is selling their data.
                            Others can read our posts, but I don't have to manage a bazillion idiots using my server 😄

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                            • KubernetesK Kubernetes

                              @robi Probably, but that is different from the intention of the service 🙂

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                              @Kubernetes said in Reddit strike:

                              @robi Probably, but that is different from the intention of the service 🙂

                              But isn't decentralization the whole point of the fediverse? From my understanding thats exactly the intention of the service. You don't need to join a specific community to participate. You can read and comment everywhere, no matter what instance you are coming from.

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                              • StardenverS Stardenver

                                @Kubernetes said in Reddit strike:

                                @robi Probably, but that is different from the intention of the service 🙂

                                But isn't decentralization the whole point of the fediverse? From my understanding thats exactly the intention of the service. You don't need to join a specific community to participate. You can read and comment everywhere, no matter what instance you are coming from.

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                                @Stardenver yes it is, but not if you make one part of the fediverse private?

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                                  Decentralized social media services for communities is the point. You are ALL correct! Some focus on the decentralized aspect. Some focus on the community aspect. Some focus on the social media aspect.

                                  A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                  • KubernetesK Kubernetes

                                    @Stardenver yes it is, but not if you make one part of the fediverse private?

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                                    @Kubernetes said in Reddit strike:

                                    @Stardenver yes it is, but not if you make one part of the fediverse private?

                                    I believe that "privat" means "closed for registration". So its not really private but access to those small or single user instances is limited. At least thats what I understand.

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                                      This strike will go on, I believe, as Steve Huffman continues to shine in the communication department:

                                      Huffman says the blackout hasn’t had “significant revenue impact” and that the company anticipates that many of the subreddits will come back online by Wednesday. “There’s a lot of noise with this one. Among the noisiest we’ve seen. Please know that our teams are on it, and like all blowups on Reddit, this one will pass as well,” the memo reads. “We absolutely must ship what we said we would. The only long term solution is improving our product, and in the short term we have a few upcoming critical mod tool launches we need to nail.”

                                      https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759559/reddit-internal-memo-api-pricing-changes-steve-huffman

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                                        #19

                                        The shitshow continues - an interview with The Verge makes everything verge.... errr worse. His answers and arguments are really bad. He doesn’t acknowledge that AI scrapers abused their system, not apps to access and interact with Reddit (like Apollo and the like). He alos practically says they will imitate Apollo. Admits that they unreasonable timeline was a way to coerce deals.

                                        https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23762868/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-interview

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                                          For a Free Software, Free Speech supporting, distributed, censorship resistant alternative to Reddit which works now, try:

                                          https://getaether.net

                                          For the future, keep an eye on Plebbit, which has a semi-functional web version already, and which will be a stronger solution, using IPFS.

                                          https://plebbitapp.eth.limo/#/
                                          https://github.com/plebbit/whitepaper
                                          https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7267/plebbit-on-cloudron-anonymous-distributed-reddit-alternative?_=1686912438579

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