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  • adisonA Offline
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    adison
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    because its been a long wile, i would like to know how this is doing? has there been any plans to support the fido implementation yet?

    my website is not available right now

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      adison
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      also, if you cant support it indirectly at least let us use an API, sutch as https://passwordless.dev to implemenet it like someware in the settings

      my website is not available right now

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        nebulon
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        Sadly I didn't investigate further since last time. The implementation in Cloudron was harder than expected. But your link might have a simpler way to integrate this. But at least as I understood that, its actually a framework not an API.

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          adison
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          aw. but it says you need a key, witch i can get as its really easy.

          my website is not available right now

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          • adisonA adison

            aw. but it says you need a key, witch i can get as its really easy.

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            micmc
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            @adison said in fido2support:

            aw. but it says you need a key, witch i can get as its really easy.

            🤔

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              adison
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              also, i'm curious, how is it hard to implement fido? vaultwarden was able to do it, no problem, i'm curious how cloudron cant

              my website is not available right now

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                as said I didn't look again into that so far. Last time I attempted, I only managed to get it to work on chrome, but not on firefox. The attempt was with the https://www.npmjs.com/package/fido2-lib module back then.

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                  adison
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                  huh weird. it should workd on almost all major browsers, firefox, chrome, etc etc

                  my website is not available right now

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                    adison
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                    i found another open source project that can help, built around passkeys.
                    https://github.com/teamhanko/hanko

                    my website is not available right now

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                      simon
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                      Hello,
                      I just wanted to emphasise that this topic is super important.
                      Now that all browsers and the big tech giants support the topic, more and more websites are offering passkey as a secure and very convenient authentication method. At the latest after Amazon offers passkey as a password replacement (https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/23/23928589/amazon-passkey-support-web-ios-shopping-mobile-app), the topic has finally arrived on the broad market.

                      I see two areas of interest for Cloudron here:

                      1. cloudron apps with keypass (as 2fa or also as 1fa)
                      2. app for developers such as Hanko.io=> https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8375/hanko-io-fido2-webauthn-passwordless-login
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                        Hello,
                        I just wanted to emphasise that this topic is super important.
                        Now that all browsers and the big tech giants support the topic, more and more websites are offering passkey as a secure and very convenient authentication method. At the latest after Amazon offers passkey as a password replacement (https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/23/23928589/amazon-passkey-support-web-ios-shopping-mobile-app), the topic has finally arrived on the broad market.

                        I see two areas of interest for Cloudron here:

                        1. cloudron apps with keypass (as 2fa or also as 1fa)
                        2. app for developers such as Hanko.io=> https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8375/hanko-io-fido2-webauthn-passwordless-login
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                        adison
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                        @simon uh huh.
                        thanks for supporting this topic.
                        this is hanko, by the way

                        my website is not available right now

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                          adison
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                          another alternative is passwordless.dev, i think

                          my website is not available right now

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                          • nebulonN nebulon

                            as said I didn't look again into that so far. Last time I attempted, I only managed to get it to work on chrome, but not on firefox. The attempt was with the https://www.npmjs.com/package/fido2-lib module back then.

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                            simon
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                            @nebulon maybe because you use Linux? Unfortunately, the support there is still very poor, but it looks much better on other devices. https://www.passkeys.io/compatible-devices

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                              @nebulon maybe because you use Linux? Unfortunately, the support there is still very poor, but it looks much better on other devices. https://www.passkeys.io/compatible-devices

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                              adison
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                              @simon yeah true

                              my website is not available right now

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                                adisonverlice2
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                                alright, i'm wondering what improvements have been made sense this topic rolled out.

                                remember, don't overlook security. be safe online

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                                  sponch
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                                  Looking forward to it 🙂

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                                    crazybrad
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                                    @adison +1 for passwordless.dev. Looks really interesting. We have been considering implementing passwordless in one of our applications and their generous user allowance makes a powerful business case. Seems to fit the Cloudron culture as well.

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                                      @adison +1 for passwordless.dev. Looks really interesting. We have been considering implementing passwordless in one of our applications and their generous user allowance makes a powerful business case. Seems to fit the Cloudron culture as well.

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                                      adisonverlice2
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                                      @crazybrad 1. witch app? and2. that is really coll man. yeah it does. i cant wait to see how this is going to go along with cloudron. not only that, i think it'll give bitwardens passwordless team a head because cloudron is not large, but pretty good in size. if i were you, what i would do is have it to where all the user has to do is give cloudron dashboard the key, then cloudron will do the other stuf unless required on the users end.

                                      remember, don't overlook security. be safe online

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                                        @adisonverlice2 We have a proprietary application (not hosted on Cloudron). I have considered using Cloudron as the single source of authentication truth, but for various reasons, I will likely not go in that direction.

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                                          @adisonverlice2 We have a proprietary application (not hosted on Cloudron). I have considered using Cloudron as the single source of authentication truth, but for various reasons, I will likely not go in that direction.

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                                          @crazybrad i see. that is very cool.

                                          remember, don't overlook security. be safe online

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