What's coming in 8.2
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@estudios507 yes, we will add an option to disable All Mail in the next release. As for the WP Email, can you not disable it - https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/#mail-from-address ?
@girish said in What's coming in 7.6:
@estudios507 ... As for the WP Email, can you not disable it - https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/#mail-from-address ?
Indeed, and, an SMTP connection for WordPress being pre-installed saves a lot of time and that should not be changed.
Maybe you'd be willing to change the default plugin to FluentSMTP, or if not then leave it as is it works perfectly.
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@girish Yes, it’s different. Many times I’ve thought about removing an app, or mess about with configurations etc. from an app that is running ok, but for some reason I want to change.
One scenario is this example. Let’s say I wanted to create an offline backup of articles in my “pocket” account (getpocket.com). I could use Wallabag for this purpose, import everything and leave it running. But let’s say I don’t need this running persistently, I just want to keep an old backup lying around. With the functionality I ask for, I could simply backup the current Wallabag installation, put the backup in cold storage, and then 5 years later, I could simply install directly from this backup.
A second scenario; if I want to play around with loads of different settings for an app, I could simply take a backup first, mess about however much without worrying whether I destroyed something, and then uninstall the version I broke due to my fiddling about, and simply reinstall from the old backup.
A third scenario; when Cloudron offers upgrades that break functionality, I could simply backup the app containing the old version and all my settings and data, and then upgrade knowing full well that I kept an old, working copy in case something I needed was broken.
The perfect implementation of this “install app from backup” would be to be able to browse old backup files like “an app store”, and install in the same way (ie. choosing a new location for an old backuped version etc). But that’s perhaps asking for too much?
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@odie Unless I'm missing something, I believe you can already achieve all that you describe with Cloudron, right now. No?
@micmc said in What's coming in 7.6:
@odie Unless I'm missing something, I believe you can already achieve all that you describe with Cloudron, right now. No?
No, not to as far as I can understand. The feature request I am making is basically the one described in this topic: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8323/how-to-upload-import-app-backup-in-cloudron/8
and which led to this feature request: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8359/ability-to-import-backups-from-computer-disk-rather-than-needing-to-scp-files/1
As far as I know, this one isn't implemented yet.
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@girish any chance of bumping PHP to version 8.2 as part of Cloudron 7.6? I know there was a previous thread here about it and we're coming up on the November end of support for 8.1. I was also trying to package Koillection and realized that the latest version only runs on 8.2. Thanks!
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@micmc said in What's coming in 7.6:
@odie Unless I'm missing something, I believe you can already achieve all that you describe with Cloudron, right now. No?
No, not to as far as I can understand. The feature request I am making is basically the one described in this topic: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8323/how-to-upload-import-app-backup-in-cloudron/8
and which led to this feature request: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8359/ability-to-import-backups-from-computer-disk-rather-than-needing-to-scp-files/1
As far as I know, this one isn't implemented yet.
@odie said in What's coming in 7.6:
@micmc said in What's coming in 7.6:
@odie Unless I'm missing something, I believe you can already achieve all that you describe with Cloudron, right now. No?
No, not to as far as I can understand. The feature request I am making is basically the one described in this topic: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8323/how-to-upload-import-app-backup-in-cloudron/8
and which led to this feature request: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8359/ability-to-import-backups-from-computer-disk-rather-than-needing-to-scp-files/1
As far as I know, this one isn't implemented yet.
What am I missing?
@jdaviescoates said in Ability to import backups from computer disk rather than needing to SCP files:
I think I must've missed something, because I recently had to move a bunch of apps from one Cloudron server to another and it was really easy. I just downloaded the backup configuration file on one server and then (after installing the same version of the same app on the new server) just clicked on this import back up button, pasted in the relevant password and away it went and downloaded and installed the backup:
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@odie said in What's coming in 7.6:
@micmc said in What's coming in 7.6:
@odie Unless I'm missing something, I believe you can already achieve all that you describe with Cloudron, right now. No?
No, not to as far as I can understand. The feature request I am making is basically the one described in this topic: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8323/how-to-upload-import-app-backup-in-cloudron/8
and which led to this feature request: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8359/ability-to-import-backups-from-computer-disk-rather-than-needing-to-scp-files/1
As far as I know, this one isn't implemented yet.
What am I missing?
@jdaviescoates said in Ability to import backups from computer disk rather than needing to SCP files:
I think I must've missed something, because I recently had to move a bunch of apps from one Cloudron server to another and it was really easy. I just downloaded the backup configuration file on one server and then (after installing the same version of the same app on the new server) just clicked on this import back up button, pasted in the relevant password and away it went and downloaded and installed the backup:
@jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 7.6:
@odie said in What's coming in 7.6:
@micmc said in What's coming in 7.6:
@odie Unless I'm missing something, I believe you can already achieve all that you describe with Cloudron, right now. No?
No, not to as far as I can understand. The feature request I am making is basically the one described in this topic: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8323/how-to-upload-import-app-backup-in-cloudron/8
and which led to this feature request: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8359/ability-to-import-backups-from-computer-disk-rather-than-needing-to-scp-files/1
As far as I know, this one isn't implemented yet.
What am I missing?
@jdaviescoates said in Ability to import backups from computer disk rather than needing to SCP files:
I think I must've missed something, because I recently had to move a bunch of apps from one Cloudron server to another and it was really easy. I just downloaded the backup configuration file on one server and then (after installing the same version of the same app on the new server) just clicked on this import back up button, pasted in the relevant password and away it went and downloaded and installed the backup:
As far as I can tell, you need to have an existing installation of the app already, in order to import. Which means versioning issues. you need to install the same version as in the backup, and then restore over it, instead of just installing directly from the imported backup.
But maybe it’s me that is missing something.
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@jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 7.6:
@odie said in What's coming in 7.6:
@micmc said in What's coming in 7.6:
@odie Unless I'm missing something, I believe you can already achieve all that you describe with Cloudron, right now. No?
No, not to as far as I can understand. The feature request I am making is basically the one described in this topic: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8323/how-to-upload-import-app-backup-in-cloudron/8
and which led to this feature request: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8359/ability-to-import-backups-from-computer-disk-rather-than-needing-to-scp-files/1
As far as I know, this one isn't implemented yet.
What am I missing?
@jdaviescoates said in Ability to import backups from computer disk rather than needing to SCP files:
I think I must've missed something, because I recently had to move a bunch of apps from one Cloudron server to another and it was really easy. I just downloaded the backup configuration file on one server and then (after installing the same version of the same app on the new server) just clicked on this import back up button, pasted in the relevant password and away it went and downloaded and installed the backup:
As far as I can tell, you need to have an existing installation of the app already, in order to import. Which means versioning issues. you need to install the same version as in the backup, and then restore over it, instead of just installing directly from the imported backup.
But maybe it’s me that is missing something.
@odie said in What's coming in 7.6:
As far as I can tell, you need to have an existing installation of the app already, in order to import. Which means versioning issues. you need to install the same version as in the backup, and then restore over it, instead of just installing directly from the imported backup.
But maybe it’s me that is missing something.No, now I get it. To avoid versioning issue you want to be able to automatically install older version directly from a backup. Gotcha.
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@girish any chance of bumping PHP to version 8.2 as part of Cloudron 7.6? I know there was a previous thread here about it and we're coming up on the November end of support for 8.1. I was also trying to package Koillection and realized that the latest version only runs on 8.2. Thanks!
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@thetomester13 This would be a topic for the app package in question, php is not used on the platform side in Cloudron. Each app has its own specified php versions.
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As promised that we did not want to delay releases too long, I have made a 7.6 release post (https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/10105/what-s-coming-in-7-6) and renamed this post to 8.0 release. The backup logic changes the formats of backups, so it's better for various code paths to have a major release number. 7.6 is mostly already ready, so we should have it out today/tomorrow.
Sorry for the confusion!
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@girish when we can have multi cloudron server dashboard so we can maintain multi nodes on different infrastructures?
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@girish when we can have multi cloudron server dashboard so we can maintain multi nodes on different infrastructures?
@sufian-mughal said in What's coming in 8.0 (was 7.6):
@girish when we can have multi cloudron server dashboard so we can maintain multi nodes on different infrastructures?
oh me likey!
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@girish when we can have multi cloudron server dashboard so we can maintain multi nodes on different infrastructures?
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@girish will you also implement e.g. 7 daily, 1 weekly, 1 month, 1 quarterly, 1 yearly backup retention policies/ schedules?
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In the effort to improve Backup, please add options for API to initiate Backup or Restore per app
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@alwynispat this API is already there. Having the API docs updated and published is part of 7.6 release.
@girish oh cool, please announce once the API documentation is updated, thanks! Planning to automate restoring my app issue.
