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Skiff on Cloudron - Privacy first email and calendar solution

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  • L LoudLemur

    Cloudron already has support for Cal.com (currently testing).

    Cal.com has beta support for CalDav (which enables us to use Radicale, and also Nextcloud, both of which are also available on Cloudron).

    Skiff is fully supported on Cal.com, too. (Skiff is a suite of privacy tools for calendar and email.) It would be lovely to be able to host Skiff on Cloudron too, since it would integrate well with the other functionality available. Skiff looks beautiful.

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    "Skiff is an end-to-end encrypted, privacy-first workspace built for communicating and collaborating freely. Today, we offer Mail, Calendar, Pages (notes), and Drive products."

    Skiff: https://skiff.com/
    Github: https://github.com/skiff-org

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    @LoudLemur said in Skiff on Cloudron - Privacy first email and calendar solution:

    It would be lovely to be able to host Skiff on Cloudron too

    @LoudLemur said in Skiff on Cloudron - Privacy first email and calendar solution:

    "Skiff is an end-to-end encrypted, privacy-first workspace built for communicating and collaborating freely. Today, we offer Mail, Calendar, Pages (notes), and Drive products."

    Skiff: https://skiff.com/
    Github: https://github.com/skiff-org

    As far as I can tell it's not actually possible to self-host Skiff.

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

      Nice UI. Odd name. Sometimes I wonder about the wisdom of some of these OS projects making themselves unemployable in enterprise due to their misplaced quirky names.

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      amilich
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      @marcusquinn Skiff refers to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_compartmented_information_facility

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        Thanks for looking into this too, everybody! Cal.com's CalDav module with Nextcloud calendar might work well instead.

        If anybody loves Nextcloud calendar, please let us know. There don't seem to be any "nesting calendars" or grouping calendars options in Nextcloud.

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        • L LoudLemur

          Thanks for looking into this too, everybody! Cal.com's CalDav module with Nextcloud calendar might work well instead.

          If anybody loves Nextcloud calendar, please let us know. There don't seem to be any "nesting calendars" or grouping calendars options in Nextcloud.

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          jdaviescoates
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          @LoudLemur said in Skiff on Cloudron - Privacy first email and calendar solution:

          Cal.com's CalDav module with Nextcloud calendar might work well instead.

          It works great with Nextcloud Calendar - I've been using the hosted cal.com with my self hosted on Cloudron Nextcloud Calendar for ages now 🙂

          @LoudLemur said in Skiff on Cloudron - Privacy first email and calendar solution:

          There don't seem to be any "nesting calendars" or grouping calendars options in Nextcloud.

          Could you elaborate on what you're talking about? I'm not sure I follow 🙂

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            @LoudLemur said in Skiff on Cloudron - Privacy first email and calendar solution:

            Cal.com's CalDav module with Nextcloud calendar might work well instead.

            It works great with Nextcloud Calendar - I've been using the hosted cal.com with my self hosted on Cloudron Nextcloud Calendar for ages now 🙂

            @LoudLemur said in Skiff on Cloudron - Privacy first email and calendar solution:

            There don't seem to be any "nesting calendars" or grouping calendars options in Nextcloud.

            Could you elaborate on what you're talking about? I'm not sure I follow 🙂

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            LoudLemur
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            @jdaviescoates said in Skiff on Cloudron - Privacy first email and calendar solution:

            Could you elaborate on what you're talking about? I'm not sure I follow

            Thanks for asking. Lets say you are a World Wide Corporation, WWC. So you have a WWC calendar, and then feeding into that would be Regional Calendars, eg US, Europe, Asia. These would be calendars run by the Regions and which would inform the WWC. By looking at the WWC, the US Region could see when the European Region is having is annual conference and, eg. avoid a scheduling clash. The Regional calendars would in turn be fed by Country calendars (USA, Canada; UK, Germany; Japan, Korea).

            Nesting the calendars might help them e.g. federate (there is a federation tool in Nextcloud, I think). It might also help with redundancy, eg. everybody could be running an instance of the WWC.

            Grouping calendars might help e.g. putting all the European country calendars together into a folder or something like that.

            Maybe there is a better way to do this with Nextcloud's tagging system or groups functionality...

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              Skiff has been acquired by Notion:

              • https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/09/notion-acquires-privacy-focused-productivity-platform-skiff/
              • https://skiff.com/data-migration

              As we begin to shift focus to our shared efforts with Notion, we will be closing down Skiff's product suite after a 6-month sunset period We are deeply appreciative of the trust users have extended to us, and we are committed to honoring that trust by ensuring that all data on Skiff is easily exportable. For the next 6 months, Skiff services will continue to operate without disruption, and users can freely duplicate, migrate, or export data. You can now also set up a forwarding address to redirect mail to any other provider.

              Services are being shutdown.

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              • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                Skiff has been acquired by Notion:

                • https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/09/notion-acquires-privacy-focused-productivity-platform-skiff/
                • https://skiff.com/data-migration

                As we begin to shift focus to our shared efforts with Notion, we will be closing down Skiff's product suite after a 6-month sunset period We are deeply appreciative of the trust users have extended to us, and we are committed to honoring that trust by ensuring that all data on Skiff is easily exportable. For the next 6 months, Skiff services will continue to operate without disruption, and users can freely duplicate, migrate, or export data. You can now also set up a forwarding address to redirect mail to any other provider.

                Services are being shutdown.

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                marcusquinn
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                @necrevistonnezr Looks like they're gunning to be a full Google Workplace / Microsoft 365 / Zoho alt.

                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                Development https://brandlight.org
                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                  mario
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                  This would be beyond amazing to have.

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                    This would be beyond amazing to have.

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                    @mario it's being shut down and absorbed into (non open source non self hostable) Notion.

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      mario
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                      But the code is still there 🙂

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                      • marioM mario

                        But the code is still there 🙂

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                        marcusquinn
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                        @mario Be interesting to see if the community can pick it up and maintain or fork.

                        Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                        Development https://brandlight.org
                        Life https://marcusquinn.com

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