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@joseph thanks. Is it in the API yet?

Thanks @crazybrad. Originally I was thinking just to offer a small range of apps and offer bundle deals. It evolved into the current model with pricing tiers and a comprehensive assortment. However, I am working on a type of bundle like Nextcloud and Collabora. It's not yet working the way I want it to though.

@nebulon et al, I am thinking of using /api/v1/apps/:id/configure/storage to move app data to an XFS volume to solve the 'unlimited storage quota' problem. I will use quotas with XFS.

The approach:

1. The setAppStorage() API call moves the app's data directory from the default /home/yellowtent/appsdata/<appid> to /mnt/volumes/appdata/svc_<id>/ on the XFS volume
2. SSH-based quota management via sshExec()
3. The XFS project quota is transparent to Cloudron — it just enforces a size limit on that subdirectory
4. Backups/restores work as usual

Bearing in mind the orchestrator is separate from the Cloudrons (multiples). Does that approach make sense? Am I missing something vital?

@humptydumpty that looks right to me. I am looking at the caching which might be the root cause.

@luckow thanks, that sounds like a good idea. I'll investigate that.

@luckow aww too late! Jellyfin and Emby etc should not be on offer. Let me fix that for you

@crazybrad that's good advice. I don't know how it will play out. Right now I am shooting from the hip. I may move it to a higher tier if it becomes too much.

I don't want to charge per user but per app with realistic limits. There will be a disk limit which is currently fair use but certainly be in place for space hungry apps at some point.

Thanks @fbartels, I'll have a look.

I also forgot to mention and link to from the homepage: https://blog.instantappshosting.com/

I'm planning to post more 'alternatives to... <favourite saas>' posts to encourage SME's and freelancers to switch to FOSS apps on the blog.

Thanks for your feedback, everyone. I really appriciate it. The offer of free apps still stands

I totally forgot to ask: please let me know what browser language and currency you select. I've tested in GBP only so far but EUR and USD update once a day automatically.

@p44 thanks for looking. It's split over currently two servers, one for smaller apps and one for those that need more oompf and disk space. They are added to the orchestrator as servers with capacity info. The system then somewhat intelligently balances loads by monitoring real load up to a threshold. If it goes above the threshold for total capacity it will send me an alert to request I add another server.

@scooke why thank you Yes, I have only tested it myself, which as most scientists would agree is too small a sample size to draw meaningful conclusions from.

I appriciate all your feedback!

@fbartels uuhh, that's not what should be happening. The prices are fixed in the db based on resource use, roughly along three tiers. I think it might be a caching issue.

Please can you let me know what browser you are using?

Appriciate the feedback.

@humptydumpty shouldn't be. Apps have different pricing based on resource use. Roughly three tiers. Can you send me a screener of what you are seeing? Thanks for your feedback.

@scooke thank you for the feedback! That's helpful. Let me have a look at fixing that glitch.

Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying both. I remember getting it to work with Hetzner StorageShare and Mailcow a while back but users simply logged in with the same password they had for mail. There was no SSO involved. Part of me hoped that because the passwords were the same it would work similarly. I wonder what a good work around is?

Thanks @jdaviescoates - Note to self: set up redirect from www to non-www for https://instantappshosting.com/

Hiho folks.

Cloudron is awesome and I finally got around to building something that completely hides it from the users' eyes

To make it super easy, barely an inconvenience for the non-technical user, I created (drum roll please):

https://instantappshosting.com

Which is now in public beta and you can have a free app or two in return for telling me what's not right (kinda a not-buy-two get a third free deal).

Please DM me for the special Cloudron supporters coupon which gives you 100% off the sticker price.

Hope you like it and thanks to the Cloudron crew and this amazing community. I look forward to extending my business license soon as I grow my Cloudrons.

Over to you.

PS Somebody should update the link @girish posted in all those threads about Nextcloud mail to https://docs.cloudron.io/packages/nextcloud#email

I am trying to automatically provision the mail app for Nextcloud users, which keeps rejecting me because of credentials I (mis?)understood should have been there thanks to the SSO.

My mail server is my.bebraver.email and separate to the Cloudron cooking up the Nextcloud shenenigans.

Please somebody tell me how to get this working as I really don't want to tell users we have SSO but they need to enter their passwords in Nextcloud. I am not sure I can survive the grief

Thanks folks.

Super, thanks James!

While I have you, can you let me know how to run a cmd in an app via the API. I tried using "Create exec" but not getting anywhere, although it doesn't error (I wish it did, at least I had more to go on!) lol

Hi @girish et al, I may read this wrong but when I troubleshot a n8n call to set an operator for an app, the manual says:

{
  "accessRestriction": {
    "users": [
      "uid-321dsa..."
    ],
    "groups": [
      "gid-321dsa..."
    ]
  }
}

But when I ran it I kept getting errors until:

{
  "operators": {
    "users": [
      "uid-321dsa..."
    ]
}
}

The manual also says in the main part:

accessRestriction instead of operators.

Am I reading it wrong or should it be updated to say operators?

Ref. https://docs.cloudron.io/api.html#tag/Apps/operation/setAppOperators

Curious to hear from anyone who is using external MX. What's your experience? What does your config look like?