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@robi said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

Here is what I noticed is off:

1. Looks sharp with a few caveats, speed of info being populated. The UI loads first, then the dynamic parts start coming in a few seconds later. Can this be cached? Feels slower than previous UX.
2. The sidebar doesn't appear to be able to dock or minimize to the icons, or be adjusted in width. Makes everything on the right smaller.
3. Still no way to tell how many apps are running from a glance at the dashboard
4. Still no keyboard navigation? Feels slower with the mouse and expanding menus vs old way. It's also off the screen requiring scrolling when all are expanded. Slower.
5. Many dialogs can't be exited or cancelled by pressing escape. For ex: adding a new mailbox user, tab to highlight the domain then Esc doesn't work, same for the next tab down to the next field. Ties in with No 4.
6. When initiating actions the confirmation dialog is way at the top, requiring more time travel mouse wise. Centering it on screen would be good, dynamically placing the dialog at the same level as the previous button on screen would be better, and turning off confirmations (as an option) would be best!
7. While dialog buttons can be switched via tab and better visualized thanks to the white border styling (in dark mode) the highlighted button cannot be pressed/confirmed with space, only enter.
8. In System > Services the cloudron service still has no restart button in the three-dot menu. Yet docker does? I think we should do away with the three dot menu, it's yet another click with no benefit. The instant icon/buttons were great and visually easy. The menu is visually mute and far away fom the previous column.
9. When I click on Backups, I want to see backups, not a dropdown with more options that are not backups. Just include the app archive below the backup information and save space. Come to think of it, why have expanding menus at all? App config doesn't, it just moves to another inner menu with all the options closer to the action. Would be more consistent across the two modals.
10. Server menu could use copy buttons for easier sharing of info during troubleshooting or vanity posts and better formatted. This is what it looks like pasting the last two lines:
    Uptime
    20 hours
    Cloudron Creation Time
    9 months ago
    ^^ O_O that is a human gestation time.. and if you just installed Cloudron 9.. oh wait you upgraded. Nevermind.
11. The size of all the tiles is smaller. It might be nice to have a zoom/size feature to help visually if on larger screens.
12. Almost thought we lost branding, but it's under Appearance. Okay? Why do external links on the dashboard have anything to do with Appearance? It could be a single button +[-∞-] on the Dashboard itself. Move Branding to System.
13. The tile/list toggle button is nice, but then we have the burried three dot menu again. Icons not hidden by the menu are so much better.
14. Why is the label and the location linking to the same external link? Let the label go to the config page and location go to the external link.
15. The list view sort by reverse App Title is a bit broken as it separates lowercase and upper case letters, sorting each as a group, not as a whole list. Ignore the case.
16. There don't appear to be hints hovering the mouse over the red triangles.
17. It would be nice if the Event Log would have a button or links to the app config in question.
18. In the Server menu, why hide the beautiful app list and file sizes? If you don't want to load it every time because of the graphs, have a cached version that updates. The list is not clickable, and I'd want to go to the App settings if I do. An enhancement would be to pull out the Backup Enabled setting for each app, as this view is often what I stare at trying to figure out why my backups are so large.
19. Since there were no notifications, I couldn't test those, but I hope the same pattern applies with links to the App Config being more useful than the external subdomain.
20. Mattermost App tile icon is almost entire invisible in dark mode, and completely invisible on mouseover :-0

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@girish Just to confirm, it's "safe" to update production servers now?

@andreasdueren It's resolved ^^. We're typing at the same time

OKAY. Suddenly, I just received this pop-up and now it's all working.

Server lag? I've been at this since yday!

Chatgpt helped me verify if the server actually has a backup and it does. The next steps were to verify if it's stale and if so, delete the backup and have it recreated, but I couldn't get the curl delete command to work. It worked for verifying the backup though. Anyway, I'd rather not "delete" anything. Let's see what else I've done...

• reset the matrix server
• encryption_enabled_by_default: true (added this in homeserver.yaml per chatgpt instructions)
• logged back out on mobile and used verify with another device to bypass the key issue - msg persists.

BTW, do you have Secure backup here: Settings → Security & Privacy → Secure Backup ??

Chatgpt keeps mentioning it but I don't have Secure Backups section unde Security & Privacy. I checked in Element Web and Desktop.

@andreasdueren I'm logged in on two other desktop devices. I still have access to old messages on those. But, the out of sync key message in the clients shows up everywhere. I know it's the correct key because if you enter anything else, it says WRONG. The moment you enter the right one, the button isn't greyed out and you can click on "continue". On the desktop clients, there's no message that says key accepted. However, on mobile, it says key accepted or something along those lines, but the key out of sync toast is persistent. I did lose access to message history on my mobile though which isn't a problem as long as I have my desktops.

Long shot but maybe one of you knows what's going on. I was getting double notifications on my cell so I logged out and back in hoping it'll fix the issue. At that point, I had to do the verification thing where you compare a list of items on both devices. Then, it said the key storage is out of sync. I couldn't find my recovery key anywhere so I reset the key using the desktop client. I entered the new recovery key on my mobile and it's not syncing. I still see the message and there's still a red dot on my profile pic. I'm also getting the message on all my devices now with the same behavior. I enter the key and nothing happens. Thoughts?

Edit: I tried self-hosted Element Web and entering the key doesn't actually verify.

@d19dotca The last rules you provided are working great for me. I still get spam sent via the major mail providers like Gmail and Outlook though. They seem to target my info@ mailboxes. I wonder if there is anything we can do in that regards other than using keyword filtering?

@Neiluj it looks pretty cool especially if you're into home automation - it's worthy to be added on the wishlist! Go for it! I didn't see any pricing info though. Are you sure the NVR feature is sub-based? NVM. Scrypted NVR License $ 40 per year

@timconsidine I bought an additional cam to play with so I'm ready for testing when you are!

I haven't looked into email archiving since I started self-hosting, but I was thinking that I could simply download the mail folder from the server and open/view the emails locally on my PC via some client. Is this possible? If not, I'm guessing this is where an app like the above comes into play right?

In the era of Gutenberg, are you guys still using caching plugins? The word on the street is that if the site is built properly with Gutenberg, then caching offers little-to-no improvement, especially when caching is done on the hosting/server-side. Thoughts?

@CBCUN Any minute now..

@BrutalBirdie said in Birdie is driving around East Europe!:

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The detail in this mosaic! You can see the rosy cheeks from where he slapped that a**

Regarding infected PC's, I recommend installing Malwarebytes (free) and doing an advanced scan. I caught a crypto miner that Windows Security (Defender) didn't. It was so stubborn to remove that I had to scan/quarantine it twice. CPU/GPU usage would spike when idle, but it would hide when in use or if I opened task manager. PC is used for gaming only so that's definitely how it came in and the top culprits are: Epic games, GTA 5, or Microsoft Flight Sim (mods related).

To summarize the key recommendations for OP:

• scan PC for malware/virus
• delete app passwords found in user's profile section
• reset passwords
• use the log out button to end all active sessions
• restart server for good measure
• report back

@scooke said in Rotating backup destinations please!:

automatically backup these apps to X and those apps to Y, right?

Exactly! Currently, I have NC auto updates & backups completely disabled. I have to "skip" backing up the app when manually updating. I have no other choice because backups never complete if uploading to an S3 bucket. It would be awesome to have things done automagically the Cloudron way again.

@girish can we specify destinations per app? For instance, Nextcloud to my locally attached SSD, other apps to 3rd party like BackBlaze?

I ran into this before. It's a Ubuntu thing. Cloudron will pick up the changes just fine.

@timconsidine This is going faster than I expected I would love to test it, but I don't know how to install custom apps on my Cloudron.

@timconsidine that would be great! thank you!