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    NCKNE
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    I am pretty happy with this in openwebui:


    But I will take a look at librechat, just had no desire to look for something else so far.

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      @jdaviescoates Tired, impatient, and time-sensitive. Sorry!

      If you get anything from me here it is always to save time, our most precious resources, and I have a lot less of it left them most.

      Doubly impatient when I have to resize screenshots up upload them to this NodeBB setup, but here we are...

      • https://www.librechat.ai/docs/features/agents
      • https://www.librechat.ai/docs/features/agents#sharing-and-permissions

      It's all there in the docs.

      This is an "Agent" (what Poe.com calls a "App". You only have to use Poe.com for 30 seconds to get what they are.)

      Create these, and have a server-hosted (Cloudron-hosted) instance of LibreChat, and now your pre-trained "Agents" (in LibreChat lingo), can be shared.

      This feature just doesn't exist in OpenWebUI, and I can't see it coming any time soon.

      The difference to me with having LibreChat on Cloudron is probably $100/month plus compared to doing the same with Poe.com. Plus not having my knowledge training setups locked up in someone else's SaaS.

      Plus, frickin hours, and hours, and hours of long-hand wasted time teaching a team how to all setup the same pre-trained chat, and keep updating it as it is refined β€” when this is an already a solved problem but LibreChat Agents and sharing those Agents among users on the same server. Not conversations. Agents. AKA Apps in Poe.com language.

      With the bridge between problem and solution apparently being persuasion that there is a LOT more value to this in LibreChat, and this specific highly valuable time, money and settings-saving thing value is not in OpenWebUI.

      If you don't work with a team, you probably don't need it.

      If you work with a team, and are going to be using AI, then this has a lot of value that I'm not seeing anywhere else.

      That's the use-case and value-proposition.

      Is there anyone left in this thread that still doesn't get it? πŸ™‚

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      LoudLemur
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      @marcusquinn said in LibreChat:

      Doubly impatient when I have to resize screenshots up upload them to this NodeBB setup, but here we are...

      ShareX with (on Cloudron) Xbackbone are brilliant for screenshotting. If you regularly use screenshots, it is invaluable.

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        I am pretty happy with this in openwebui:


        But I will take a look at librechat, just had no desire to look for something else so far.

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        @NCKNE Thanks. Not seen that before. I'm not a fan of the WebUI interface, but it it's possible, it is highly valuable! Thanks for the pointer, I'll give it a try.

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          @marcusquinn said in LibreChat:

          Doubly impatient when I have to resize screenshots up upload them to this NodeBB setup, but here we are...

          ShareX with (on Cloudron) Xbackbone are brilliant for screenshotting. If you regularly use screenshots, it is invaluable.

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          marcusquinn
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          @LoudLemur Thanks. I'm using Shottr, and just found the resize x0.5 option, so that seems to work.

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            @NCKNE Thanks. Not seen that before. I'm not a fan of the WebUI interface, but it it's possible, it is highly valuable! Thanks for the pointer, I'll give it a try.

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            @marcusquinn Youβ€˜re welcome. We are using openwebui with RAG (our own documents aka knowledge) for the IT support team. We are using it on cloudron together with the private IONOS AI Hub. Great service if you are serving EU customers.

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              @marcusquinn Youβ€˜re welcome. We are using openwebui with RAG (our own documents aka knowledge) for the IT support team. We are using it on cloudron together with the private IONOS AI Hub. Great service if you are serving EU customers.

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              @NCKNE V Interesting. Great share. Thanks you!

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                canadaduane
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                Open WebUI has changed their license to a not-strictly-open-source license (by OSI definition):

                https://docs.openwebui.com/license/

                https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1kg4avg/openwebui_license_change_red_flag/

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                  @canadaduane thanks for the heads up . https://docs.openwebui.com/license/#open-webui-license-explained has an ELI5 of sorts

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                    There’s actually a deeper issue concerning Open WebUI, beyond just the recent switch to a non-OSI license. The sole maintainer’s demand for contributor license agreements (CLAs), along with how he's communicated and managed these changes, creates genuine uncertainty.

                    Given this scenario, the risk of further license changes becoming problematic for Cloudron users isn't far-fetched. To mitigate this, proactively packaging LibreChat would be strategically smart. It ensures Cloudron users always have immediate access to reliable, fully open-source software, especially if Open WebUI's licensing situation deteriorates further.

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                      We now have a working LibreChat cloudron container set up. See: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12850/first-try-app-packaging-librechat-issue-with-postgresql-extention-pgvector/14?_=1749416165430

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                        We now have a working LibreChat cloudron container set up. See: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12850/first-try-app-packaging-librechat-issue-with-postgresql-extention-pgvector/14?_=1749416165430

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                        @canadaduane Well done, and thank you!

                        Here are the latest features from the current release:

                        https://github.com/danny-avila/LibreChat/releases/tag/v0.7.8

                        What's Changed
                        🏞️ Highlights
                        New AI Models: Support for GPT-4.1, o4-mini, o3, Gemini 2.5, and Grok 3
                        UI Refresh: UX, Navigation, Accessibility Improvements & Optimizations
                        Agent Chain: Sequential mixture-of-agents enabling multiple specialized AIs to collaborate on complex tasks
                        Mistral OCR for text extraction: from documents and gpt-4o-transcribe for audio transcription
                        OpenAI Web Search models: for accessing real-time information
                        Persistent Code Environment: Code Interpreter files can now persist between chat sessions on demand
                        Cloud Storage: S3 and Azure Blob integration with auto-refreshing URLs for robust file handling
                        OpenAI Image Tools (GPT-Image-1): for generating and editing images
                        Special date/time Variables: for prompts and agents that are used dynamically
                        Automatic balance refill system: and enhanced Redis integration for rate limiting
                        ✨ New Features
                        πŸ” feat: Mistral OCR API / Upload Files as Text by @danny-avila in #6274
                        πŸ€– feat: Support OpenAI Web Search models by @danny-avila in #6313
                        πŸ”— feat: Agent Chain (Mixture-of-Agents) by @danny-avila in #6374
                        βŒ› feat: initTimeout for Slow Starting MCP Servers by @perweij in #6383
                        πŸš€ feat: S3 Integration for File handling and Image uploads by @rubentalstra in #6142
                        πŸ”’ feat: Enable OpenID Auto-Redirect by @leondape in #6066
                        πŸš€ feat: Integrate Azure Blob Storage for file handling and image uploads by @rubentalstra in #6153
                        πŸš€ feat: Add support for custom AWS endpoint in S3 by @rubentalstra in #6431
                        πŸš€ feat: Add support for LDAP STARTTLS in LDAP authentication by @rubentalstra in #6438
                        πŸš€ feat: Refactor schema exports and update package version to 0.0.4 by @rubentalstra in #6455
                        πŸ”Ό feat: Add Auto Submit For URL Query Params by @mjaverto in #6440
                        πŸ›  feat: Enhance Redis Integration, Rate Limiters & Log Headers by @danny-avila in #6462
                        πŸ’΅ feat: Add Automatic Balance Refill by @rubentalstra in #6452
                        πŸ—£οΈ feat: add support for gpt-4o-transcribe models by @berry-13 in #6483
                        🎨 feat: UI Refresh for Enhanced UX by @berry-13 in #6346
                        🌍 feat: Add support for Hungarian language localization by @rubentalstra in #6508
                        πŸš€ feat: Add Gemini 2.5 Token/Context Values, Increase Max Possible Output to 64k by @danny-avila in #6563
                        πŸš€ feat: Enhance MCP Connections For Multi-User Support by @danny-avila in #6610
                        πŸš€ feat: Enhance S3 URL Expiry with Refresh; fix: S3 File Deletion by @danny-avila in #6647
                        πŸš€ feat: enhance UI components and refactor settings by @berry-13 in #6625
                        πŸ’¬ feat: move TemporaryChat to the Header by @berry-13 in #6646
                        πŸš€ feat: Use Model Specs + Specific Endpoints, Limit Providers for Agents by @danny-avila in #6650
                        πŸͺ™ feat: Sync Balance Config on Login by @danny-avila in #6671
                        πŸ”¦ feat: MCP Support for Non-Agent Endpoints by @danny-avila in #6775
                        πŸ—ƒοΈ feat: Code Interpreter File Persistence between Sessions by @danny-avila in #6790
                        πŸ–₯️ feat: Code Interpreter API for Non-Agent Endpoints by @danny-avila in #6803
                        ⚑ feat: Self-hosted Artifacts Static Bundler URL by @danny-avila in #6827
                        🐳 feat: Add Jemalloc and UV to Docker Builds by @danny-avila in #6836
                        πŸ€– feat: GPT-4.1 by @danny-avila in #6880
                        πŸ‘‹ feat: remove Edge TTS by @berry-13 in #6885
                        🧭 feat: nav optimization by @berry-13 in #5785
                        πŸ—ΊοΈ feat: Add Parameter Location Mapping for OpenAPI actions by @peeeteeer in #6858
                        πŸ€– feat: Support o4-mini and o3 Models by @danny-avila in #6928
                        🎨 feat: OpenAI Image Tools (GPT-Image-1) by @danny-avila in #7079
                        πŸ—“οΈ feat: Add Special Variables for Prompts & Agents, Prompt UI Improvements by @danny-avila in #7123
                        ✨ feat: Enhance form submission for touch screens by @berry-13 in #7198
                        πŸ” feat: Additional Tavily API Tool Parameters by @glowforge-opensource in #7232
                        πŸ‹ feat: Add python to Dockerfile for increased MCP compatibility by @technicalpickles in #7270

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