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Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)

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  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

    Another day, another rename

    • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

    Apparently they're sticking with this now.

    jdaviescoatesJ
    jdaviescoatesJ
    jdaviescoates
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    #26

    @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

    Another day, another rename

    The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

      @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

      Another day, another rename

      The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

      marcusquinnM
      marcusquinnM
      marcusquinn
      wrote on last edited by
      #27

      @jdaviescoates sorted

      Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
      Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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      • robiR
        robiR
        robi
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        #28

        This thread is inspirational for how to tier your model usage, especially if you're hitting token limits.
        https://x.com/code_rams/status/2017684921091772591

        image.png

        Conscious tech

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        • robiR robi

          This thread is inspirational for how to tier your model usage, especially if you're hitting token limits.
          https://x.com/code_rams/status/2017684921091772591

          image.png

          marcusquinnM
          marcusquinnM
          marcusquinn
          wrote on last edited by
          #29

          @robi Sonnet 5 is due out this week, don't think we'll need anything else once that is 🙂

          Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
          Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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          • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

            @robi Sonnet 5 is due out this week, don't think we'll need anything else once that is 🙂

            robiR
            robiR
            robi
            wrote on last edited by
            #30

            @marcusquinn token burn is real, and default config doesn't care.

            Hence openrouter's auto route helps

            As does this config optimization
            OC efficient config - https://x.com/alexxzay/status/2017824548276600914

            Conscious tech

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            • robiR robi

              @marcusquinn token burn is real, and default config doesn't care.

              Hence openrouter's auto route helps

              As does this config optimization
              OC efficient config - https://x.com/alexxzay/status/2017824548276600914

              timconsidineT
              timconsidineT
              timconsidine
              App Dev
              wrote on last edited by
              #31

              @robi thanks for that link
              still working on my openclaw package, so that will be useful (incorporated if I can)

              Indie app dev, huge fan of Cloudron PaaS, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk

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                crazybrad
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                #32

                As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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                • C crazybrad

                  As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                  Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

                  timconsidineT
                  timconsidineT
                  timconsidine
                  App Dev
                  wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                  #33

                  @crazybrad I have very similar thoughts & cautions.

                  • packaging it because it looks cool and fun to learn what the fuss is about
                  • I would NEVER deploy this on a primary working computer like desktop/laptop
                  • deploying it in a container seems like it could be viable

                  I have a feeling that Agent Zero is much better than Openclaw, but I can't really say that until I have test Openclaw fairly. So continuing on the package "just in case" it can help me or others.

                  Indie app dev, huge fan of Cloudron PaaS, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk

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                  • C crazybrad

                    As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                    Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

                    robiR
                    robiR
                    robi
                    wrote on last edited by robi
                    #34

                    @crazybrad no fear, the enchanting experience is key.

                    Conscious tech

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                      crazybrad
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                      #35

                      @timconsidine I think "containerizing" is a great and much safer approach. I would just not use real accounts: email, social, etc. The fact that you are doing this might encourage me to create some test accounts and try it:) @robi Excellent point! "Mirror, mirror on the wall... whose the smartest one of all:)"

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                        DualOSWinWiz
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                        #36

                        I was thinking few roles for clawdbot / openclaw / agentzero as a bookeeper who with giving access to irs taxcode and postgress database ask him to be my accountant. Still thinking about it but i have to free few weekends for this. Any thoughts / suggestions?

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                        • D DualOSWinWiz

                          I was thinking few roles for clawdbot / openclaw / agentzero as a bookeeper who with giving access to irs taxcode and postgress database ask him to be my accountant. Still thinking about it but i have to free few weekends for this. Any thoughts / suggestions?

                          marcusquinnM
                          marcusquinnM
                          marcusquinn
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #37

                          @DualOSWinWiz exactly the kind of thing this is for — go for it!

                          Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                          Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                          • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                            @DualOSWinWiz exactly the kind of thing this is for — go for it!

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                            DualOSWinWiz
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                            #38

                            @marcusquinn but the necessary requirement is to need 2 more bots one bot to audit bookeeper so its kind of more complex and then the 3rd bot as the decision maker so decision should always be 2 to 1. Otherwise it could be a mess. Still thinking

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                              @marcusquinn but the necessary requirement is to need 2 more bots one bot to audit bookeeper so its kind of more complex and then the 3rd bot as the decision maker so decision should always be 2 to 1. Otherwise it could be a mess. Still thinking

                              marcusquinnM
                              marcusquinnM
                              marcusquinn
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #39

                              @DualOSWinWiz sure, you could still do all that on one device.

                              Might be a useful skill to add into your mix:

                              • https://www.aitmpl.com/component/skill/invoice-organizer

                              Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                              Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                @DualOSWinWiz sure, you could still do all that on one device.

                                Might be a useful skill to add into your mix:

                                • https://www.aitmpl.com/component/skill/invoice-organizer
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                                DualOSWinWiz
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                                #40

                                @marcusquinn thank you i will

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                                • C crazybrad

                                  @timconsidine I think "containerizing" is a great and much safer approach. I would just not use real accounts: email, social, etc. The fact that you are doing this might encourage me to create some test accounts and try it:) @robi Excellent point! "Mirror, mirror on the wall... whose the smartest one of all:)"

                                  timconsidineT
                                  timconsidineT
                                  timconsidine
                                  App Dev
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #41

                                  @crazybrad yep 👍- in my cautious approach I set up a dedicated address e.g. my-company-finance@app.domain.tld and forward manually/automatically emails to it, bot monitors email inbox and works only on those - not full primary email access

                                  Indie app dev, huge fan of Cloudron PaaS, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk

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                                    crazybrad
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                                    @timconsidine Smart. Typical for you:)

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                                      LoudLemur
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                                      #43

                                      Suggest switching this instead to support for:

                                      https://github.com/agent0ai/agent-zero

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                                      • L LoudLemur

                                        Suggest switching this instead to support for:

                                        https://github.com/agent0ai/agent-zero

                                        marcusquinnM
                                        marcusquinnM
                                        marcusquinn
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #44

                                        @LoudLemur has its own thread:

                                        • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/14958/agent-zero-a-personal-organic-agentic-framework-that-grows-and-learns-with-you

                                        Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                                        Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                                        • robiR
                                          robiR
                                          robi
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                                          #45

                                          Some tips for setting it up to avoid the dumb clanker feeling:
                                          https://www.notion.so/ashenone/The-Bare-Minimum-To-Make-Your-OpenClaw-Agent-Actually-Good-311664f6a1e381c4976bdb8d689d2ffb

                                          https://xcancel.com/ashen_one/status/2026383178290569539

                                          YT vid didn't load so use ^ - should be fine now.

                                          Conscious tech

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