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v3.24.0 constantly runs out of memory

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  • timconsidineT
    timconsidineT
    timconsidine
    App Dev
    wrote on last edited by timconsidine
    #1

    Never had a problem with Umami before.
    I had it set at 2Gb RAM which is a healthy amount for this kind of app (even maybe high).
    Auto-upgrade to Cloudron v3.24.0 immediately brought repeat OOM
    Increased it - reluctantly - to 3Gb.
    Still crashing.

    Checked redid for umami - running at 15% (40/256) - restarted it anyway.

    Now umami is not responding.

    Anyone else seeing this ?
    Don't see any relevant GitHub issues for upstream 3.1.0

    Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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      shrey
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      #2

      Yeah, same here. Had to roll back to the last version.

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        ccfu
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        #3

        Had this as well several times after uodate, but it seems to have stabilised. No OOM for the past 8 hours.

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        • timconsidineT
          timconsidineT
          timconsidine
          App Dev
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Cloudron Team : I am not clear whether cloudron 3.24.0 used a different upstream base 3.1.0 to previous, but my impression is not. So the issue is in cloudron v3.24.0 ? Can it be fixed ?

          Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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          • jamesJ
            jamesJ
            james
            Staff
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            Hello @timconsidine
            These are the changes made https://git.cloudron.io/packages/umami-app/-/commit/4e3d31c2f37285960d017fd157956b5aae9138ef

            One thing that jumps at me is --max-old-space-size=4096.

            The container runs a full Next.js production yarn build on every start (see start.sh:L35).
            Next.js builds are notoriously memory-hungry; they scale with the size of the app bundle.
            Node is told --max-old-space-size=4096 (4 GiB V8 heap) while the cgroup hard cap from CloudronManifest.json:L13 is 2 GiB by default.
            Node happily tries to grow past 2 GiB, the kernel OOM-kills the container.

            This value should not be hard coded, instead should reflect the memory limit set by the user.
            An app update will be available soon.

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            • jamesJ james

              Hello @timconsidine
              These are the changes made https://git.cloudron.io/packages/umami-app/-/commit/4e3d31c2f37285960d017fd157956b5aae9138ef

              One thing that jumps at me is --max-old-space-size=4096.

              The container runs a full Next.js production yarn build on every start (see start.sh:L35).
              Next.js builds are notoriously memory-hungry; they scale with the size of the app bundle.
              Node is told --max-old-space-size=4096 (4 GiB V8 heap) while the cgroup hard cap from CloudronManifest.json:L13 is 2 GiB by default.
              Node happily tries to grow past 2 GiB, the kernel OOM-kills the container.

              This value should not be hard coded, instead should reflect the memory limit set by the user.
              An app update will be available soon.

              timconsidineT
              timconsidineT
              timconsidine
              App Dev
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @james thank you, I appreciate you looking into and resolving it πŸ™

              Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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              • jamesJ
                jamesJ
                james
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                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Fixed with the latest update https://forum.cloudron.io/post/123645

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                  ekevu123
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                  #8

                  I have just run into the same issue.

                  Isn't the issue that the build process forks into different processes per worker and the sum of it takes too much memory? I had to set my memory limit to 5 GB to get the app to start again. It looks to me like the workers are given 75 % of the memory assigned to umami each, which leads to the issue. Also, does the app have to recompile every single time it restarts?
                  Maybe the default memory could also be raised above 2 GB considering that several people (also in another thread) faced memory issues before.

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                  • d19dotcaD
                    d19dotcaD
                    d19dotca
                    wrote last edited by d19dotca
                    #9

                    I too have just run into this with the most recent package/image from Cloudron for Umami... it was constantly hitting OOM and failing to respond until I lifted it from 2 GB to 5 GB temporarily and then could reduce it back down again. I think the issue was that it temporarily needed much more than 2 GB of memory to perform what appeared to be some database updates for Umami.

                    This was for package 3.27.0, which contains Umami 3.4.0.

                    --
                    Dustin Dauncey
                    www.d19.ca

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                    • d19dotcaD d19dotca

                      I too have just run into this with the most recent package/image from Cloudron for Umami... it was constantly hitting OOM and failing to respond until I lifted it from 2 GB to 5 GB temporarily and then could reduce it back down again. I think the issue was that it temporarily needed much more than 2 GB of memory to perform what appeared to be some database updates for Umami.

                      This was for package 3.27.0, which contains Umami 3.4.0.

                      timconsidineT
                      timconsidineT
                      timconsidine
                      App Dev
                      wrote last edited by
                      #10

                      @d19dotca FWIW I have switched from Umami to Rybbit (Community App).

                      Umami performs well, I just prefer Rybbit.

                      Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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                      • timconsidineT timconsidine

                        @d19dotca FWIW I have switched from Umami to Rybbit (Community App).

                        Umami performs well, I just prefer Rybbit.

                        d19dotcaD
                        d19dotcaD
                        d19dotca
                        wrote last edited by
                        #11

                        @timconsidine Yeah I think I prefer Rybbit too, right now I haven’t switched over yet though and am running both in parallel, with Rybbit taking a few sites too.

                        --
                        Dustin Dauncey
                        www.d19.ca

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                        • d19dotcaD d19dotca

                          I too have just run into this with the most recent package/image from Cloudron for Umami... it was constantly hitting OOM and failing to respond until I lifted it from 2 GB to 5 GB temporarily and then could reduce it back down again. I think the issue was that it temporarily needed much more than 2 GB of memory to perform what appeared to be some database updates for Umami.

                          This was for package 3.27.0, which contains Umami 3.4.0.

                          robiR
                          robiR
                          robi
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                          #12

                          @d19dotca Yeah, I had it OOM for a while and it was already at 2GB RAM, It needed 3GB just to do a rebuild and it took an hour.

                          The new default needs to be 3GB @james

                          All that to find out i don't want it anymore ;-/

                          Time to install Rybbit. Thanks Tim.

                          Conscious tech

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                            ekevu123
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                            #13

                            I keep running into this issue again. Oddly, it doesn't matter how high my memory limit is (it's set to 5 GB at the moment), it still keeps happening. The usage graph doesn't show any spike. This happens when 11 workers are being spawned simultaneously using next build apparently.

                            EDIT: I did some digging (as I did before), and this happens during auto-update and restart. One theory right now is that during auto-update, when multiple apps are updated, it causes a spike on the server, that's why an ordinary mid-day restart can't reproduce it.

                            Can Cloudron change the build process and perhaps have fewer workers run in parallel, and perhaps not rebuild the app with every restart?

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                              I keep running into this issue again. Oddly, it doesn't matter how high my memory limit is (it's set to 5 GB at the moment), it still keeps happening. The usage graph doesn't show any spike. This happens when 11 workers are being spawned simultaneously using next build apparently.

                              EDIT: I did some digging (as I did before), and this happens during auto-update and restart. One theory right now is that during auto-update, when multiple apps are updated, it causes a spike on the server, that's why an ordinary mid-day restart can't reproduce it.

                              Can Cloudron change the build process and perhaps have fewer workers run in parallel, and perhaps not rebuild the app with every restart?

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                              joseph
                              Staff
                              wrote last edited by
                              #14

                              @ekevu123 said:

                              Can Cloudron change the build process and perhaps have fewer workers run in parallel, and perhaps not rebuild the app with every restart?

                              Apps are not rebuilt on every restart. Do you mean creating a container ?

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                                ekevu123
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                                I might be wrong, but see below, I get this upon every restart. Isn't that an unnecessary build process for a restart without any update?

                                Restart requested:

                                apptask: run: startTask installationState: pending_restart runState: running
                                tasks: updating task 16772 with: {"percent":30,"message":"Restarting container"}
                                

                                Build pipeline starts inside the container:

                                => Running build script that generates the migrations
                                $ npm-run-all check:env build:db check:db build:tracker build:recorder build:geo build:openapi build:packages build:app
                                

                                Cloudron reports success while the build is still running:

                                tasks: updating task 16772 with: {"percent":100,"message":"Done"}
                                taskworker: Task took 11.522 seconds
                                

                                Nothing listens on port 3000 during the build (repeats every 10 seconds):

                                => Healthcheck error: Error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.18.18.146:3000
                                

                                Next.js production build:

                                $ next build --turbo
                                β–² Next.js 16.3.4 (Turbopack)
                                βœ“ Compiled successfully in 12.0s
                                

                                Post-build and start:

                                $ node scripts/postbuild.js
                                => Running migrations
                                No pending migrations to apply.
                                ==> Starting Umami
                                βœ“ Ready in 154ms
                                
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