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  • timconsidineT Offline
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    timconsidine
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    wrote last edited by timconsidine
    #20

    ooops

    You have reached the maximum number of apps.

    Please sir, can I have some more ?
    (after Oliver Twist)
    🙏

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    • girishG Offline
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      Staff
      wrote last edited by
      #21

      @timconsidine done, it's 25 now .

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      • fbartelsF Offline
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        App Dev
        wrote last edited by
        #22

        There seems to be a parsing issue with the recent changes:

        8059d585-114d-4bcc-aa1e-f9d83deae45f-image.jpeg

        It is cutting off the first two characters it seems.

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        • girishG Offline
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          wrote last edited by girish
          #23

          @fbartels the changelog file is meant to be like:

          [x.y.z]
          - Change 1
          - Change 2
          

          So the first chars in each line are stripped (you can also use * etc). I have deployed a fix to strip the chars if first two are not those sequences.

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          • girishG girish

            @fbartels the changelog file is meant to be like:

            [x.y.z]
            - Change 1
            - Change 2
            

            So the first chars in each line are stripped (you can also use * etc). I have deployed a fix to strip the chars if first two are not those sequences.

            fbartelsF Offline
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            fbartels
            App Dev
            wrote last edited by
            #24

            @girish ah, that explains it then. Seeing I was not the only one to that made that mistake i welcome the fix to detect the bullets automatically.

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            • robiR robi

              @girish Can you wrap or proxy the ca.cloudron.io store just like you do the appstore for every cloudron?

              This would allow for no copy-pasting the versions file manually, and have a button-click install for community apps that are registered.

              Thoughts?

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              wrote last edited by
              #25

              robi said:

              @girish Can you wrap or proxy the ca.cloudron.io store just like you do the appstore for every cloudron?

              This would allow for no copy-pasting the versions file manually, and have a button-click install for community apps that are registered.

              Thoughts?

              none?

              Conscious tech

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              • girishG Offline
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                Staff
                wrote last edited by
                #26

                @robi missed that comment. are you referring to embedding community app store inside Cloudron dashboard?

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                • robiR robi

                  robi said:

                  @girish Can you wrap or proxy the ca.cloudron.io store just like you do the appstore for every cloudron?

                  This would allow for no copy-pasting the versions file manually, and have a button-click install for community apps that are registered.

                  Thoughts?

                  none?

                  fbartelsF Offline
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                  fbartels
                  App Dev
                  wrote last edited by
                  #27

                  @robi I really like the idea of making it easier to install these, but a deep visual integration or proxy directly inside the main Cloudron UI might clash with the team's goal of keeping community apps distinct from official ones.

                  Instead of proxying the store, a really elegant middle-ground would be setting up a redirection service similar to what Home Assistant does with my.home-assistant.io (source code/docs here).

                  With a service like that, the Community App Store (ca.cloudron.io) could simply have an "Install on your Cloudron" button that deep-links to a centralized URL structure.

                  How it works:

                  1. The first time a user clicks it, they land on a simple page asking for their private Cloudron dashboard's base URL (e.g., https://my.example.com).
                  2. This URL is saved securely in the browser's localStorage or a cookie.
                  3. On all future clicks, the service instantly handles the redirect behind the scenes.

                  For example, a link pointing to:
                  https://my-own.cloudron.io/redirect/appstore/io.cloudron.surfer

                  Would instantly bounce the user straight into their own private dashboard at:
                  https://my.example.com/#/appstore/io.cloudron.surfer

                  A massive bonus here is that this doesn't have to be limited to just installing apps.

                  This redirection service would be a huge win for general documentation and simplifying user support across the entire ecosystem. For instance, official documentation or forum support threads could deep-link users directly to specific settings or user management pages inside their own unique setups.

                  We could even use it to streamline the onboarding experience right on the main website. For example, the final step of the current installation instructions at https://www.cloudron.io/get.html (which tells users to navigate to their new setup) could instead just feature a clean "Configure your new Cloudron" button using this redirect service.

                  Since my.cloudron.io is already actively used by the platform, maybe the team could host it on something like my-own.cloudron.io or install.cloudron.io? (Though honestly, it could even just live as a /redirect path right on ca.cloudron.io to keep things dead simple). It feels like a great way to elevate user experience without adding heavy technical debt or blurring the lines on official support.

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                  • girishG girish

                    @robi missed that comment. are you referring to embedding community app store inside Cloudron dashboard?

                    robiR Offline
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                    robi
                    wrote last edited by
                    #28

                    @girish yes.

                    Much better UX, no copypasta.

                    Conscious tech

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                    • fbartelsF fbartels

                      @robi I really like the idea of making it easier to install these, but a deep visual integration or proxy directly inside the main Cloudron UI might clash with the team's goal of keeping community apps distinct from official ones.

                      Instead of proxying the store, a really elegant middle-ground would be setting up a redirection service similar to what Home Assistant does with my.home-assistant.io (source code/docs here).

                      With a service like that, the Community App Store (ca.cloudron.io) could simply have an "Install on your Cloudron" button that deep-links to a centralized URL structure.

                      How it works:

                      1. The first time a user clicks it, they land on a simple page asking for their private Cloudron dashboard's base URL (e.g., https://my.example.com).
                      2. This URL is saved securely in the browser's localStorage or a cookie.
                      3. On all future clicks, the service instantly handles the redirect behind the scenes.

                      For example, a link pointing to:
                      https://my-own.cloudron.io/redirect/appstore/io.cloudron.surfer

                      Would instantly bounce the user straight into their own private dashboard at:
                      https://my.example.com/#/appstore/io.cloudron.surfer

                      A massive bonus here is that this doesn't have to be limited to just installing apps.

                      This redirection service would be a huge win for general documentation and simplifying user support across the entire ecosystem. For instance, official documentation or forum support threads could deep-link users directly to specific settings or user management pages inside their own unique setups.

                      We could even use it to streamline the onboarding experience right on the main website. For example, the final step of the current installation instructions at https://www.cloudron.io/get.html (which tells users to navigate to their new setup) could instead just feature a clean "Configure your new Cloudron" button using this redirect service.

                      Since my.cloudron.io is already actively used by the platform, maybe the team could host it on something like my-own.cloudron.io or install.cloudron.io? (Though honestly, it could even just live as a /redirect path right on ca.cloudron.io to keep things dead simple). It feels like a great way to elevate user experience without adding heavy technical debt or blurring the lines on official support.

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                      robi
                      wrote last edited by
                      #29

                      @fbartels love the ingenuity, but I don't quite like the hijack to an external site.

                      The App Store is still the primary vector to all app installations. Custom Apps is just an another option, as it is now, without leaving the interface. Just another Cloudron modal that lists the community apps.

                      Works across desktop and mobile.

                      Conscious tech

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                      • fbartelsF fbartels

                        @robi I really like the idea of making it easier to install these, but a deep visual integration or proxy directly inside the main Cloudron UI might clash with the team's goal of keeping community apps distinct from official ones.

                        Instead of proxying the store, a really elegant middle-ground would be setting up a redirection service similar to what Home Assistant does with my.home-assistant.io (source code/docs here).

                        With a service like that, the Community App Store (ca.cloudron.io) could simply have an "Install on your Cloudron" button that deep-links to a centralized URL structure.

                        How it works:

                        1. The first time a user clicks it, they land on a simple page asking for their private Cloudron dashboard's base URL (e.g., https://my.example.com).
                        2. This URL is saved securely in the browser's localStorage or a cookie.
                        3. On all future clicks, the service instantly handles the redirect behind the scenes.

                        For example, a link pointing to:
                        https://my-own.cloudron.io/redirect/appstore/io.cloudron.surfer

                        Would instantly bounce the user straight into their own private dashboard at:
                        https://my.example.com/#/appstore/io.cloudron.surfer

                        A massive bonus here is that this doesn't have to be limited to just installing apps.

                        This redirection service would be a huge win for general documentation and simplifying user support across the entire ecosystem. For instance, official documentation or forum support threads could deep-link users directly to specific settings or user management pages inside their own unique setups.

                        We could even use it to streamline the onboarding experience right on the main website. For example, the final step of the current installation instructions at https://www.cloudron.io/get.html (which tells users to navigate to their new setup) could instead just feature a clean "Configure your new Cloudron" button using this redirect service.

                        Since my.cloudron.io is already actively used by the platform, maybe the team could host it on something like my-own.cloudron.io or install.cloudron.io? (Though honestly, it could even just live as a /redirect path right on ca.cloudron.io to keep things dead simple). It feels like a great way to elevate user experience without adding heavy technical debt or blurring the lines on official support.

                        girishG Offline
                        girishG Offline
                        girish
                        Staff
                        wrote last edited by
                        #30

                        @fbartels good idea. In fact, we had a plan to implement something like this minus the local storage i.e just forwarding a query parameter from the dashboard and the ca.cloudron.io can forward back. Not sure if it will confuse people to set the "base URL" in a 3rd party page. I think part of the confusion is the word "Cloudron" is used a lot 🙂 and often in support, we go in circles about explaining different between Cloudron.io login page and Cloudron dashboard login page...

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                        • robiR robi

                          @girish yes.

                          Much better UX, no copypasta.

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                          girish
                          Staff
                          wrote last edited by
                          #31

                          @robi Ah ok. No plans for that right now. The versions file, the contents are all completely unvetted. The packages/authors/apps are all not verified. ca.cloudron.io is really just a glorified bookmarking website, it's not providing any other promises. Given the uncurated nature, it would be risky to embed 3rd party content straight into people's dashboards. For example, nsfw screenshots, embedding scammy links in description, things like that.

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                          • girishG girish

                            @robi Ah ok. No plans for that right now. The versions file, the contents are all completely unvetted. The packages/authors/apps are all not verified. ca.cloudron.io is really just a glorified bookmarking website, it's not providing any other promises. Given the uncurated nature, it would be risky to embed 3rd party content straight into people's dashboards. For example, nsfw screenshots, embedding scammy links in description, things like that.

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                            robi
                            wrote last edited by
                            #32

                            @girish I get it, I am not suggesting making it anything else.

                            A better integrated bookmarking system is it.

                            Simply one that doesn't have to switch tabs or copy paste.

                            Conscious tech

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