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Security issue thread - PHP and eMudhra cert compromise

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  • nebulonN
    nebulonN
    nebulon
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    So https://www.php.net/index.php#2026-10-20-1 covers all the details now. Also the packages we depend on have already been rebuilt https://codeberg.org/oerdnj/deb.sury.org/issues/145

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    • humptyH
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        p44
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        @girish on different Cloudron instances I ran

        # dpkg-query -W -f 'installed: ${Version}\n' ca-certificates
        

        I had older version, I updated.

        Why wasn't it updated, even though Cloudron should have updated it?

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        • P p44

          @girish on different Cloudron instances I ran

          # dpkg-query -W -f 'installed: ${Version}\n' ca-certificates
          

          I had older version, I updated.

          Why wasn't it updated, even though Cloudron should have updated it?

          girishG
          girishG
          girish
          Staff
          wrote last edited by girish
          #6

          @p44 the automatic security update comes from ubuntu itself. All our instances updated automatically. You can still update manually (see the main post). You can check /var/log/apt/history.log on the history of automatic updates. But do this manually:

          # apt-get update
          # apt-get install -y ca-certificates
          
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            p44
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            @girish Thanks a lot, I did manually. But I cannot figure out why not was automatically updated...

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            • humptyH
              humptyH
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              #8

              Is the new cloudron "mail" app php based?

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              • girishG
                girishG
                girish
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                wrote last edited by
                #9

                @humpty all our apps are node.js based .

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                • P p44

                  @girish Thanks a lot, I did manually. But I cannot figure out why not was automatically updated...

                  nebulonN
                  nebulonN
                  nebulon
                  Staff
                  wrote last edited by
                  #10

                  @p44 this could just be that the cron job didn't run yet on your instance.

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                  • girishG girish

                    @humpty all our apps are node.js based .

                    jdaviescoatesJ
                    jdaviescoatesJ
                    jdaviescoates
                    Super Fan
                    wrote last edited by
                    #11

                    @girish is there a handy list somewhere of which Cloudron packages are PHP?

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                      @girish is there a handy list somewhere of which Cloudron packages are PHP?

                      humptyH
                      humptyH
                      humpty
                      wrote last edited by humpty
                      #12

                      @jdaviescoates according to chatgpt the following are php based (not a complete list):

                      • nextcloud
                      • roundcube
                      • wordpress
                      • freescout
                      • yourls
                      • Invoiceninja

                      edit: I know you also use navidrome (not php). N8n, Joplin, Vaultwarden are all safe (non-php based).

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                      • girishG girish

                        There are two major security issues that hit today morning.

                        • eMudhra Certificate compromise - https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com
                        • PHP issue - https://cert.europa.eu/publications/security-advisories/2026-018/ . The recommendation here is to shut down your PHP sites entirely. FWIW, we have shutdown our own matomo, freescout, mautic, humhub .

                        We are also updating https://social.cloudron.io/@cloudron and https://x.com/CloudronIO as we get more information. Public newsletter link - https://newsletter.cloudron.io/archive/2026-10-21-php-emudhra

                        PHP RCE

                        We have already started rolling out updates for the apps.

                        Status as of 22 OCT 19:20 CEST - Around 175 packages have been updated. ~20 or so remain. We are working through them diligently. It's complicated because sometimes upstream has gone all silent.

                        Status as of 23 OCT 9:20 CEST - Pretty much all packages updated. Only 3-4 remain. All PHP apps are updated.

                        eMudhra Certificate compromise

                        Ubuntu has released the necessary CA store update - https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-8944-1 . All Cloudron packages have been updated to include the new CA store.

                        Cloudron already enables automatic security updates on the server. But you can and should check this manually.

                        SSH into your server and run:

                        # dpkg-query -W -f 'installed: ${Version}\n' ca-certificates
                        installed: 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1
                        

                        This should say 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1 atleast. The first part is the date, and it must be equal to or later than that. The last part of the string will differ based on your ubuntu version (for example, 20260816ubuntu0.22.04.1 is valid).

                        You can check when the above package arrived via automatic security update:

                        # grep -A2 'ca-certificates' /var/log/apt/history.log | tail -n 2
                        Upgrade: ca-certificates:amd64 (20260601~26.04.1, 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1)
                        End-Date: 2026-10-21  06:59:55
                        

                        If the ca-certificates was not updated, update ca-certificates package manually:

                        # apt-get update
                        # apt-get install -y ca-certificates
                        

                        Now to be 100% sure, check that the cert is not in trust bundle:

                        # openssl crl2pkcs7 -nocrl -certfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt  | openssl pkcs7 -print_certs -noout | grep -F "emSign ECC Root CA - G3"   && echo "STILL IN TRUST BUNDLE" || echo "removed from trust bundle"
                        

                        It should say removed from trust bundle

                        Cloudron update

                        Cloudron 10.1.6 is coming soon with an update to nodejs - https://github.com/nodejs/node/releases/tag/v24.22.1 (via this change). You should update to Cloudron 10.1.6 at the earliest, when it's available. Other parts of Cloudron like nginx, docker will use the host CA bundle automatically and are safe. At this point, there is nothing you (the user) can do until we release this.

                        New base images

                        This section is for packagers.

                        New images:

                        cloudron/base:6.0.1@sha256:7b1e729960c3ca312d26e886917ba89483241bba0219ff292858e10d9d5768ee
                        cloudron/node-base:24-20261021@sha256:7435d8aca138ce01cfca4cd7ec05683223b8f5d7198c9abdaaefa1b6ba14b4c6 (Per https://nodejs.org/en/blog/vulnerability/october-2026-security-releases , Node.js v22.23.4, Node.js v24.22.1
                        Node.js v26.12.1 are updated)

                        I am investigating python. Per https://discuss.python.org/t/information-for-python-users-regarding-emudhra-emsign-ca-certificate-security-incident/109576, ensure pip >= 26.2.2 .

                        PHP versions are out -PHP 8.5.12 , PHP 8.4.27 , PHP 8.3.36
                        PHP 8.2.35 . We are building new packages . Special thanks to oerdnj from https://codeberg.org/oerdnj/deb.sury.org/issues/145

                        New base images: cloudron/php-base:8.5-20261021 and cloudron/php-base:8.4-20261021

                        jdaviescoatesJ
                        jdaviescoatesJ
                        jdaviescoates
                        Super Fan
                        wrote last edited by
                        #13

                        @girish said:

                        grep -A2 'ca-certificates' /var/log/apt/history.log | tail -n

                        that's missing a number at the end. I went for:

                        grep -A2 'ca-certificates' /var/log/apt/history.log | tail -n 3

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        • nebulonN nebulon

                          @p44 this could just be that the cron job didn't run yet on your instance.

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                          p44
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                          wrote last edited by
                          #14

                          @nebulon Thanks Nebulon 🙏 and thanks for all your efforts

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                            msbt
                            App Dev Super Fan
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                            there used to be a filter like https://git.cloudron.io/packages?filter=php that worked, but not anymore apparently 😕

                            Happy Hosting & Web Development

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                            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                              @girish is there a handy list somewhere of which Cloudron packages are PHP?

                              luckowL
                              luckowL
                              luckow
                              translator
                              wrote last edited by
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                              @jdaviescoates as fas as i know:
                              2fauth
                              ampache
                              bookstack
                              castopod
                              dokuwiki
                              dolibarr
                              easyappointments
                              espocrm
                              firefly-iii
                              freescout
                              freshrss
                              glpi
                              grav
                              humhub
                              invoiceninja
                              jirafeau
                              kanboard
                              kimai
                              koel
                              leantime
                              limesurvey
                              lychee
                              matomo
                              mautic
                              mediawiki
                              monica
                              moodle
                              nextcloud
                              omeka-s
                              opodsync
                              osticket
                              piwigo
                              pixelfed
                              privatebin
                              roundcube
                              rss-bridge
                              shaarli
                              snappymail
                              snipeit
                              tachyon
                              tinytinyrss
                              wallabag
                              wallos
                              wordpress-developer
                              wordpress-managed
                              xbackbone
                              yourls

                              Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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                              • luckowL luckow

                                @jdaviescoates as fas as i know:
                                2fauth
                                ampache
                                bookstack
                                castopod
                                dokuwiki
                                dolibarr
                                easyappointments
                                espocrm
                                firefly-iii
                                freescout
                                freshrss
                                glpi
                                grav
                                humhub
                                invoiceninja
                                jirafeau
                                kanboard
                                kimai
                                koel
                                leantime
                                limesurvey
                                lychee
                                matomo
                                mautic
                                mediawiki
                                monica
                                moodle
                                nextcloud
                                omeka-s
                                opodsync
                                osticket
                                piwigo
                                pixelfed
                                privatebin
                                roundcube
                                rss-bridge
                                shaarli
                                snappymail
                                snipeit
                                tachyon
                                tinytinyrss
                                wallabag
                                wallos
                                wordpress-developer
                                wordpress-managed
                                xbackbone
                                yourls

                                jdaviescoatesJ
                                jdaviescoatesJ
                                jdaviescoates
                                Super Fan
                                wrote last edited by
                                #17

                                @luckow said:

                                @jdaviescoates as fas as i know:
                                2fauth
                                ampache
                                bookstack
                                castopod
                                dokuwiki
                                dolibarr
                                easyappointments
                                espocrm
                                firefly-iii
                                freescout
                                freshrss
                                glpi
                                grav
                                humhub
                                invoiceninja
                                jirafeau
                                kanboard
                                kimai
                                koel
                                leantime
                                limesurvey
                                lychee
                                matomo
                                mautic
                                mediawiki
                                monica
                                moodle
                                nextcloud
                                omeka-s
                                opodsync
                                osticket
                                piwigo
                                pixelfed
                                privatebin
                                roundcube
                                rss-bridge
                                shaarli
                                snappymail
                                snipeit
                                tachyon
                                tinytinyrss
                                wallabag
                                wallos
                                wordpress-developer
                                wordpress-managed
                                xbackbone
                                yourls

                                Thanks, I was about to post the same list. Plus LAMP.

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                • jdaviescoatesJ
                                  jdaviescoatesJ
                                  jdaviescoates
                                  Super Fan
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #18

                                  I've just installed Cloudron CLI and stopped all my PHP apps for good measure (with the help of Claude)

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    p44
                                    translator
                                    wrote last edited by p44
                                    #19

                                    @jdaviescoates Another “workaround” could be to install VPN app and mark as required to access to all installed application. What do you think? Could be a temporary workaround to avoid to stop every app?

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                                    • P p44

                                      @jdaviescoates Another “workaround” could be to install VPN app and mark as required to access to all installed application. What do you think? Could be a temporary workaround to avoid to stop every app?

                                      jdaviescoatesJ
                                      jdaviescoatesJ
                                      jdaviescoates
                                      Super Fan
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #20

                                      @p44 I don't have the knowledge to know tbh. But it sounds a bit like what more qualified @fbartels described in that other thread.

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      • girishG
                                        girishG
                                        girish
                                        Staff
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #21

                                        yes, limiting access via the VPN feature is a way to fix the issue.

                                        To update: the base images are ready, our CI is at work pushing new packages.

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                                          @girish will/can there a patch for Cloudron <10 users? I have a LAMP which requires MYSQL 8.0, that's why I haven't upgraded to 9.2.0 yet, to avoid compatibility issues with MYSQL 8.4 😬

                                          Edit: Might opt for a custom app, that's not a healthy way to maintain that LAMP app 😅

                                          Unrelated: Great response time and effort for the fixes, much appreciated! ♥

                                          Happy Hosting & Web Development

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