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Security issue thread - PHP and eMudhra cert compromise

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  • humptyH
    humptyH
    humpty
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    #8

    Is the new cloudron "mail" app php based?

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    • girishG
      girishG
      girish
      Staff
      wrote last edited by
      #9

      @humpty all our apps are node.js based .

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      • P p44

        @girish Thanks a lot, I did manually. But I cannot figure out why not was automatically updated...

        nebulonN
        nebulonN
        nebulon
        Staff
        wrote last edited by
        #10

        @p44 this could just be that the cron job didn't run yet on your instance.

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        • girishG girish

          @humpty all our apps are node.js based .

          jdaviescoatesJ
          jdaviescoatesJ
          jdaviescoates
          Super Fan
          wrote last edited by
          #11

          @girish is there a handy list somewhere of which Cloudron packages are PHP?

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

            @girish is there a handy list somewhere of which Cloudron packages are PHP?

            humptyH
            humptyH
            humpty
            wrote last edited by humpty
            #12

            @jdaviescoates according to chatgpt the following are php based (not a complete list):

            • nextcloud
            • roundcube
            • wordpress
            • freescout
            • yourls
            • Invoiceninja

            edit: I know you also use navidrome (not php). N8n, Joplin, Vaultwarden are all safe (non-php based).

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            • girishG girish

              There are two major security issues that hit today morning.

              • eMudhra Certificate compromise - https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com
              • PHP issue - https://cert.europa.eu/publications/security-advisories/2026-018/ . The recommendation here is to shut down your PHP sites entirely. FWIW, we have shutdown our own matomo, freescout, mautic, humhub .

              We are also updating https://social.cloudron.io/@cloudron and https://x.com/CloudronIO as we get more information. Public newsletter link - https://newsletter.cloudron.io/archive/2026-10-21-php-emudhra

              PHP RCE

              We have already started rolling out updates for the apps.

              Status as of 22 OCT 19:20 CEST - Around 175 packages have been updated. ~20 or so remain. We are working through them diligently. It's complicated because sometimes upstream has gone all silent.

              Status as of 23 OCT 9:20 CEST - Pretty much all packages updated. Only 3-4 remain. All PHP apps are updated.

              eMudhra Certificate compromise

              Ubuntu has released the necessary CA store update - https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-8944-1 . All Cloudron packages have been updated to include the new CA store.

              Cloudron already enables automatic security updates on the server. But you can and should check this manually.

              SSH into your server and run:

              # dpkg-query -W -f 'installed: ${Version}\n' ca-certificates
              installed: 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1
              

              This should say 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1 atleast. The first part is the date, and it must be equal to or later than that. The last part of the string will differ based on your ubuntu version (for example, 20260816ubuntu0.22.04.1 is valid).

              You can check when the above package arrived via automatic security update:

              # grep -A2 'ca-certificates' /var/log/apt/history.log | tail -n 2
              Upgrade: ca-certificates:amd64 (20260601~26.04.1, 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1)
              End-Date: 2026-10-21  06:59:55
              

              If the ca-certificates was not updated, update ca-certificates package manually:

              # apt-get update
              # apt-get install -y ca-certificates
              

              Now to be 100% sure, check that the cert is not in trust bundle:

              # openssl crl2pkcs7 -nocrl -certfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt  | openssl pkcs7 -print_certs -noout | grep -F "emSign ECC Root CA - G3"   && echo "STILL IN TRUST BUNDLE" || echo "removed from trust bundle"
              

              It should say removed from trust bundle

              Cloudron update

              Cloudron 10.1.6 is coming soon with an update to nodejs - https://github.com/nodejs/node/releases/tag/v24.22.1 (via this change). You should update to Cloudron 10.1.6 at the earliest, when it's available. Other parts of Cloudron like nginx, docker will use the host CA bundle automatically and are safe. At this point, there is nothing you (the user) can do until we release this.

              New base images

              This section is for packagers.

              New images:

              cloudron/base:6.0.1@sha256:7b1e729960c3ca312d26e886917ba89483241bba0219ff292858e10d9d5768ee
              cloudron/node-base:24-20261021@sha256:7435d8aca138ce01cfca4cd7ec05683223b8f5d7198c9abdaaefa1b6ba14b4c6 (Per https://nodejs.org/en/blog/vulnerability/october-2026-security-releases , Node.js v22.23.4, Node.js v24.22.1
              Node.js v26.12.1 are updated)

              I am investigating python. Per https://discuss.python.org/t/information-for-python-users-regarding-emudhra-emsign-ca-certificate-security-incident/109576, ensure pip >= 26.2.2 .

              PHP versions are out -PHP 8.5.12 , PHP 8.4.27 , PHP 8.3.36
              PHP 8.2.35 . We are building new packages . Special thanks to oerdnj from https://codeberg.org/oerdnj/deb.sury.org/issues/145

              New base images: cloudron/php-base:8.5-20261021 and cloudron/php-base:8.4-20261021

              jdaviescoatesJ
              jdaviescoatesJ
              jdaviescoates
              Super Fan
              wrote last edited by
              #13

              @girish said:

              grep -A2 'ca-certificates' /var/log/apt/history.log | tail -n

              that's missing a number at the end. I went for:

              grep -A2 'ca-certificates' /var/log/apt/history.log | tail -n 3

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • nebulonN nebulon

                @p44 this could just be that the cron job didn't run yet on your instance.

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                P
                p44
                translator
                wrote last edited by
                #14

                @nebulon Thanks Nebulon 🙏 and thanks for all your efforts

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                  msbt
                  App Dev Super Fan
                  wrote last edited by
                  #15

                  there used to be a filter like https://git.cloudron.io/packages?filter=php that worked, but not anymore apparently 😕

                  Happy Hosting & Web Development

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                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    @girish is there a handy list somewhere of which Cloudron packages are PHP?

                    luckowL
                    luckowL
                    luckow
                    translator
                    wrote last edited by
                    #16

                    @jdaviescoates as fas as i know:
                    2fauth
                    ampache
                    bookstack
                    castopod
                    dokuwiki
                    dolibarr
                    easyappointments
                    espocrm
                    firefly-iii
                    freescout
                    freshrss
                    glpi
                    grav
                    humhub
                    invoiceninja
                    jirafeau
                    kanboard
                    kimai
                    koel
                    leantime
                    limesurvey
                    lychee
                    matomo
                    mautic
                    mediawiki
                    monica
                    moodle
                    nextcloud
                    omeka-s
                    opodsync
                    osticket
                    piwigo
                    pixelfed
                    privatebin
                    roundcube
                    rss-bridge
                    shaarli
                    snappymail
                    snipeit
                    tachyon
                    tinytinyrss
                    wallabag
                    wallos
                    wordpress-developer
                    wordpress-managed
                    xbackbone
                    yourls

                    Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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                    • luckowL luckow

                      @jdaviescoates as fas as i know:
                      2fauth
                      ampache
                      bookstack
                      castopod
                      dokuwiki
                      dolibarr
                      easyappointments
                      espocrm
                      firefly-iii
                      freescout
                      freshrss
                      glpi
                      grav
                      humhub
                      invoiceninja
                      jirafeau
                      kanboard
                      kimai
                      koel
                      leantime
                      limesurvey
                      lychee
                      matomo
                      mautic
                      mediawiki
                      monica
                      moodle
                      nextcloud
                      omeka-s
                      opodsync
                      osticket
                      piwigo
                      pixelfed
                      privatebin
                      roundcube
                      rss-bridge
                      shaarli
                      snappymail
                      snipeit
                      tachyon
                      tinytinyrss
                      wallabag
                      wallos
                      wordpress-developer
                      wordpress-managed
                      xbackbone
                      yourls

                      jdaviescoatesJ
                      jdaviescoatesJ
                      jdaviescoates
                      Super Fan
                      wrote last edited by
                      #17

                      @luckow said:

                      @jdaviescoates as fas as i know:
                      2fauth
                      ampache
                      bookstack
                      castopod
                      dokuwiki
                      dolibarr
                      easyappointments
                      espocrm
                      firefly-iii
                      freescout
                      freshrss
                      glpi
                      grav
                      humhub
                      invoiceninja
                      jirafeau
                      kanboard
                      kimai
                      koel
                      leantime
                      limesurvey
                      lychee
                      matomo
                      mautic
                      mediawiki
                      monica
                      moodle
                      nextcloud
                      omeka-s
                      opodsync
                      osticket
                      piwigo
                      pixelfed
                      privatebin
                      roundcube
                      rss-bridge
                      shaarli
                      snappymail
                      snipeit
                      tachyon
                      tinytinyrss
                      wallabag
                      wallos
                      wordpress-developer
                      wordpress-managed
                      xbackbone
                      yourls

                      Thanks, I was about to post the same list. Plus LAMP.

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ
                        jdaviescoatesJ
                        jdaviescoates
                        Super Fan
                        wrote last edited by
                        #18

                        I've just installed Cloudron CLI and stopped all my PHP apps for good measure (with the help of Claude)

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          p44
                          translator
                          wrote last edited by p44
                          #19

                          @jdaviescoates Another “workaround” could be to install VPN app and mark as required to access to all installed application. What do you think? Could be a temporary workaround to avoid to stop every app?

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                          • P p44

                            @jdaviescoates Another “workaround” could be to install VPN app and mark as required to access to all installed application. What do you think? Could be a temporary workaround to avoid to stop every app?

                            jdaviescoatesJ
                            jdaviescoatesJ
                            jdaviescoates
                            Super Fan
                            wrote last edited by
                            #20

                            @p44 I don't have the knowledge to know tbh. But it sounds a bit like what more qualified @fbartels described in that other thread.

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                            • girishG
                              girishG
                              girish
                              Staff
                              wrote last edited by
                              #21

                              yes, limiting access via the VPN feature is a way to fix the issue.

                              To update: the base images are ready, our CI is at work pushing new packages.

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                                msbt
                                App Dev Super Fan
                                wrote last edited by msbt
                                #22

                                @girish will/can there a patch for Cloudron <10 users? I have a LAMP which requires MYSQL 8.0, that's why I haven't upgraded to 9.2.0 yet, to avoid compatibility issues with MYSQL 8.4 😬

                                Edit: Might opt for a custom app, that's not a healthy way to maintain that LAMP app 😅

                                Unrelated: Great response time and effort for the fixes, much appreciated! ♥

                                Happy Hosting & Web Development

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                                  #23

                                  I powered off my netcup Cloudron servers a few hours ago and I´m now browsing through the forum, gathering info.
                                  Would this be a sensible restart procedure, once cloudron and package updates are available?

                                  • Before booting, restrict inbound access at the provider firewall to my IP only (SSH/HTTPS, covering IPv4 and IPv6), initially blocking other outbound traffic except administrative replies - if possible
                                  • Boot normally and stop all apps through the dashboard.
                                  • Allow the outbound connectivity needed for updates (no idea how..), verify/update Ubuntu’s ca-certificates, and install Cloudron 10.1.6 when available as laid out in @girish´s first post
                                  • Update and test app packages individually once available, keeping unpatched apps stopped before restoring public access.

                                  Would this make preventing Docker from starting during boot unnecessary? Also, is restricting inbound access sufficient for temporary operation, or should apps awaiting CA/runtime fixes remain stopped because of their outbound TLS connections?

                                  Thank you guys being as fast and commited as you are 🙂

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                                  • sebastienserreS
                                    sebastienserreS
                                    sebastienserre
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                                    #24

                                    How to receive the PHP fix ? I don't see any updates?
                                    Do I need to stop my PHP apps ?

                                    He/Him - Native language: French

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                                    • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

                                      How to receive the PHP fix ? I don't see any updates?
                                      Do I need to stop my PHP apps ?

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                                      jcaruso
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #25

                                      @sebastienserre Individual PHP apps will need to be updated. I just noticed that WordPress has been updated but others aren't yet. It sounds like the automated systems are still testing and building updates and they'll be ready soon.

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                                      • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

                                        How to receive the PHP fix ? I don't see any updates?
                                        Do I need to stop my PHP apps ?

                                        humptyH
                                        humptyH
                                        humpty
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #26

                                        @sebastienserre yes, it's best to stop the PHP-based apps. You can see which apps are affected a few posts up. App updates are being rolled out. For instance, Wordpress and Freescout fixes are ready. As for the server, go to the initial post, log in to your server(s) via SSH, and run the commands to make sure the server is up to date. That's all you need to do right now.

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                                          Yinz are true heroes!

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