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Security issue thread - PHP and eMudhra cert compromise

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  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

    Always thought this about Cloudron; anything that's not supposed to be a public website or app should be behind a mesh vpn, hence this research back in Feb 2022, and hope that Netbird can be a support app for vpn gating cloudron apps:

    • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7571/netbird-foss-noconf-mesh-vpn-using-wireguard-alternative-to-zerotier-tailscale-omniedge-netmaker-etc

    Security through invisibility. Buys more time for patching these incidents.

    girishG
    girishG
    girish
    Staff
    wrote last edited by
    #83

    @marcusquinn yeah, I think so too. The VPN feature in Cloudron 10 was just to get started in that direction.

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    • jadudmJ
      jadudmJ
      jadudm
      wrote last edited by
      #84
      1. I know I am adding noise to a thread. I'm doing it anyway.
      2. How do I get a SUPER FAN badge? πŸ™‚
      3. This is why I am glad to pay for Cloudron.
      4. Stated less transactionally: this is why I put my trust in the Cloudron team.

      I had to respond to these issues as part of my day job. I was incredibly grateful that I did not have to respond to it as part of my home life. I came to the Cloudron site, saw the banner, looked at the first post, and knew it was being handled.

      Many, many thanks to the team and community packagers who jumped on this professionally and responsibly.

      I use Cloudron on a DXP2800 NAS w/ 8TB in ZFS RAID1

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      • girishG
        girishG
        girish
        Staff
        wrote last edited by
        #85

        Sending out a newsletter but given the size of the list it might take a while to get to you. Here's the public newsletter https://newsletter.cloudron.io/archive/2026-10-21-php-emudhra

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        • jadudmJ jadudm
          1. I know I am adding noise to a thread. I'm doing it anyway.
          2. How do I get a SUPER FAN badge? πŸ™‚
          3. This is why I am glad to pay for Cloudron.
          4. Stated less transactionally: this is why I put my trust in the Cloudron team.

          I had to respond to these issues as part of my day job. I was incredibly grateful that I did not have to respond to it as part of my home life. I came to the Cloudron site, saw the banner, looked at the first post, and knew it was being handled.

          Many, many thanks to the team and community packagers who jumped on this professionally and responsibly.

          marcusquinnM
          marcusquinnM
          marcusquinn
          CA Maintainer Super Fan
          wrote last edited by
          #86

          @jadudm it came from this bit of banter:

          • https://forum.cloudron.io/post/131061

          Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
          Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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          • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

            @jadudm it came from this bit of banter:

            • https://forum.cloudron.io/post/131061
            andreasduerenA
            andreasduerenA
            andreasdueren
            App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
            wrote last edited by andreasdueren
            #87

            @marcusquinn Outrageous that I don’t have a Giga Fan badge.

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            • K karlemilnikka

              @nebulon I understand, but after 24 h of downtime and no ETA, it seems like the best choice. Thanks for the quick replies!

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              L
              leighmhart
              wrote last edited by
              #88

              @karlemilnikka Castopod has been updated, FYI.

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              • DidierMalenfantD
                DidierMalenfantD
                DidierMalenfant
                wrote last edited by
                #89

                In the original post:

                This should say 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1 atleast. The first part is the date, and it must be **later** than that.
                

                should probably say 'equal or later than that'.

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                • girishG girish

                  Sending out a newsletter but given the size of the list it might take a while to get to you. Here's the public newsletter https://newsletter.cloudron.io/archive/2026-10-21-php-emudhra

                  whitespaceW
                  whitespaceW
                  whitespace
                  wrote last edited by
                  #90

                  @girish The newsletter reads as if all packages have been updated. At least Wallabag is not as far as I can tell. Am I reading it wrong?

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                  • whitespaceW whitespace

                    @girish The newsletter reads as if all packages have been updated. At least Wallabag is not as far as I can tell. Am I reading it wrong?

                    jamesJ
                    jamesJ
                    james
                    Staff
                    wrote last edited by james
                    #91

                    Hello @whitespace

                    There are currently issues with the @wallabag PHP update we are currently working on to resolve.
                    When this is done, the update will be available.

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                    • whitespaceW whitespace

                      @girish The newsletter reads as if all packages have been updated. At least Wallabag is not as far as I can tell. Am I reading it wrong?

                      J
                      J
                      joseph
                      Staff
                      wrote last edited by
                      #92

                      @whitespace https://github.com/wallabag/wallabag/pull/9099 (tldr upstream code hasn't been updated for a while and they have to make an upstream release first)

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                      • J joseph

                        @whitespace https://github.com/wallabag/wallabag/pull/9099 (tldr upstream code hasn't been updated for a while and they have to make an upstream release first)

                        whitespaceW
                        whitespaceW
                        whitespace
                        wrote last edited by
                        #93

                        @joseph Thanks, I am aware. I just wanted to point out that the newsletter statement 1. can be understood otherwise.

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                        • jamesJ
                          jamesJ
                          james
                          Staff
                          wrote last edited by
                          #94

                          Hello @whitespace
                          I managed to resolve the issue and the update is released https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3936/wallabag-package-updates/39

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                          • jamesJ james

                            Hello @whitespace
                            I managed to resolve the issue and the update is released https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3936/wallabag-package-updates/39

                            whitespaceW
                            whitespaceW
                            whitespace
                            wrote last edited by
                            #95

                            @james So much appreciation! I love this community.

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                              odie
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                              #96

                              Just want to add to the appreciation here. Very well done, guys, thank you very much!

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                              • dsp76D
                                dsp76D
                                dsp76
                                wrote last edited by
                                #97

                                One thing that may be a little improvement for the future: a state where I can update a package, which is not active. So before finally activating a package - it can be updated. What do you think about this?

                                (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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                                • O odie

                                  Just want to add to the appreciation here. Very well done, guys, thank you very much!

                                  DidierMalenfantD
                                  DidierMalenfantD
                                  DidierMalenfant
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #98

                                  @odie said:

                                  Just want to add to the appreciation here. Very well done, guys, thank you very much!

                                  Same here. Thank you so much for all the hard work!

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                                    IniBudi
                                    translator
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #99

                                    For critical update, should we create a feature to immediately update apps like within or less than 5-minutes after the patch is released?

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                                    • dsp76D dsp76

                                      One thing that may be a little improvement for the future: a state where I can update a package, which is not active. So before finally activating a package - it can be updated. What do you think about this?

                                      jdaviescoatesJ
                                      jdaviescoatesJ
                                      jdaviescoates
                                      Super Fan
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #100

                                      @dsp76 said:

                                      One thing that may be a little improvement for the future: a state where I can update a package, which is not active. So before finally activating a package - it can be updated. What do you think about this?

                                      Yes, I wondered about this too.

                                      At present stopped apps cannot be updated. I'm not entirely clear why that is?

                                      It would be nice to be able to update stopped apps without having to first start them, especially in situations like this.

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                        M
                                        maxkreg
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #101

                                        I can see cloudron 10.1.6 being available now, but it is marked as unstable. Is it recommended to update manually, anyway? As far as I know, cloudron will not automatically update to unstable releases. Thanks!

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                                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                          @dsp76 said:

                                          One thing that may be a little improvement for the future: a state where I can update a package, which is not active. So before finally activating a package - it can be updated. What do you think about this?

                                          Yes, I wondered about this too.

                                          At present stopped apps cannot be updated. I'm not entirely clear why that is?

                                          It would be nice to be able to update stopped apps without having to first start them, especially in situations like this.

                                          LanhildL
                                          LanhildL
                                          Lanhild
                                          App Dev
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #102

                                          @jdaviescoates a stopped application can't be updated because of potential migration scripts, runtime updates, etc.

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