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PhotoPrism - Personal Photo Management powered by Go and Google TensorFlow

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  • yusfY Offline
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    Interesting. It’d be good to have a modern photo app on Cloudron. I wonder, with all that Google technology, how much does it call home.

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      AFAIK, I think it's all done locally (it's just using Google' libraries). Atleast, their demo looks really nice. It categorizes pictures by photos and location.

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      • yusfY yusf

        Interesting. It’d be good to have a modern photo app on Cloudron. I wonder, with all that Google technology, how much does it call home.

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        @yusf said in PhotoPrism - Personal Photo Management powered by Go and Google TensorFlow:

        how much does it call home

        I'm not a dev but a simple search showed me this apps call at least google maps

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        • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

          @yusf said in PhotoPrism - Personal Photo Management powered by Go and Google TensorFlow:

          how much does it call home

          I'm not a dev but a simple search showed me this apps call at least google maps

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          @JOduMonT I see. No surprise an app built with Google tech leaks, I guess.

          It makes me want security profiles of all the apps in regards to homephoning etc…

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          • yusfY yusf

            @JOduMonT I see. No surprise an app built with Google tech leaks, I guess.

            It makes me want security profiles of all the apps in regards to homephoning etc…

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            @yusf said in PhotoPrism - Personal Photo Management powered by Go and Google TensorFlow:

            It makes me want security profiles of all the apps in regards to homephoning etc…

            I don't really understand what you try to say but for me, even I try to stay far from the GAFAM, I just feel it's normal than Google use and promote Google Products such as Golang and Google Maps.

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              Go and TensorFlow are things that were/are built by Google, but it not a "Google Product" in the way that most think about. They are Open Source projects that Google contributes to. They are as Google as React is a Facebook product and Kafka is a LinkedIn (or Microsoft) one.

              Most everything making reference to Google is, in some way, related to Location info. Here is the detailed sheet on Geocoding:

              https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism/wiki/Geocoding

              Generally, it appears that they are using OSM for goecoding but are using several tools or algorithms built by Google in the process.

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                But what about privacy issues like these?

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                • yusfY yusf

                  But what about privacy issues like these?

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                  iamthefij
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                  @yusf that is referring to the build process. When building you fetch the index of dependencies from somewhere. By default this is a Google server (because Google maintains it). For Node it's a NodeJS server. For Python it's a Python.org server.

                  In all of these cases (including Go), you can replace it with any private server or proxy you'd like.

                  But in any rate, it has no impact on the running software.

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                    Given PhotoPrism is seemingly now both the most popular and the most actively developed self-hosted photo gallery solution (see https://selfhosted.libhunt.com/categories/1707-photo-and-video-galleries ) I'd really like to have it on Cloudron in order to experiment with using it to replace my Flickr Pro account....

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      Yes we will package that app once it reaches a stable release. I've met with the developers in person already so we are on track here 🙂

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                      • nebulonN nebulon

                        Yes we will package that app once it reaches a stable release. I've met with the developers in person already so we are on track here 🙂

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                        @nebulon great to know, thanks!

                        When you met with the developers were they able to indicate when they are hoping to release a stable release? Hopefully in the near future! 🙂

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          They did not have any release date yet and also didn't want to be pressured in that way as far as I can tell. Their focus is on a solid release rather than getting things out quickly. Also it is really only a two people project and they also have to figure out some business model to be able to keep working on it.

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                          • nebulonN nebulon

                            They did not have any release date yet and also didn't want to be pressured in that way as far as I can tell. Their focus is on a solid release rather than getting things out quickly. Also it is really only a two people project and they also have to figure out some business model to be able to keep working on it.

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                            @nebulon hopefully they'll do a release once their MVP milestone is reached, which looks tantalisingly close:

                            https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism/milestones/MVP

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                              I wrote with them just to clarify the possibilities to upload pics from mobile (Android / IOS). Here is the answer:

                              "Für den Upload mit dem Smartphone können Apps wie PhotoSync oder auch Nextcloud genutzt werden. Wir unterstützen WebDAV als offene Schnittstelle, sind also kompatibel zu vielen anderen Anwendungen."

                              credits to Deepl:

                              "For uploading with the smartphone, apps like PhotoSync or even Nextcloud can be used. We support WebDAV as an open interface, so we are compatible with many other apps."

                              Seems to be the first #Google #Photos #Alternative I would like to use.

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                              • ? A Former User

                                I wrote with them just to clarify the possibilities to upload pics from mobile (Android / IOS). Here is the answer:

                                "Für den Upload mit dem Smartphone können Apps wie PhotoSync oder auch Nextcloud genutzt werden. Wir unterstützen WebDAV als offene Schnittstelle, sind also kompatibel zu vielen anderen Anwendungen."

                                credits to Deepl:

                                "For uploading with the smartphone, apps like PhotoSync or even Nextcloud can be used. We support WebDAV as an open interface, so we are compatible with many other apps."

                                Seems to be the first #Google #Photos #Alternative I would like to use.

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                                @captain-kirk yeah I'm really looking forward to this being released. Think I'll finally be able to cancel my Flickr subscription

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  It would be great if this would somehow work with local directories or more inexpensive storage spaces. . I know there has been some talk about different ways of extending cloudron/ nextcloud storage. I tend to lag behind on these forums and with cloudron in general. So I am not sure where things stand with this. But thought I would add this comment.

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                                    It would be great if this would somehow work with local directories or more inexpensive storage spaces. . I know there has been some talk about different ways of extending cloudron/ nextcloud storage. I tend to lag behind on these forums and with cloudron in general. So I am not sure where things stand with this. But thought I would add this comment.

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                                    @seeker hopefully once it's released and then packaged for Cloudron it'll play nicely with the new Volumes in Cloudron 6.0, see https://docs.cloudron.io/storage/#volumes

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      @seeker hopefully once it's released and then packaged for Cloudron it'll play nicely with the new Volumes in Cloudron 6.0, see https://docs.cloudron.io/storage/#volumes

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                                      @jdaviescoates Thanks for sharing. I knew I had read things about volumes being expanded in cloudron.

                                      I have long wanted a google alternative for photos. I hope that the photoprism is found to alleviate the privacy concerns mentioned prior in this thread. I would still be a little concerned about uploading all of my photos online. But a selection for photoprism to work its magic on. That would be nice.

                                      I would really love a way to extend volumes to a pc at home or at the office.

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                                        @jdaviescoates Thanks for sharing. I knew I had read things about volumes being expanded in cloudron.

                                        I have long wanted a google alternative for photos. I hope that the photoprism is found to alleviate the privacy concerns mentioned prior in this thread. I would still be a little concerned about uploading all of my photos online. But a selection for photoprism to work its magic on. That would be nice.

                                        I would really love a way to extend volumes to a pc at home or at the office.

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                                        @seeker said in PhotoPrism - Personal Photo Management powered by Go and Google TensorFlow:

                                        I hope that the photoprism is found to alleviate the privacy concerns mentioned prior in this thread

                                        I'm fairly certain those concerns are unfounded. Somewhere on GitHub, in response to a feature request, I think, the authors rejected the idea of deeper integration with Google because they too want a private alternative, hence creating what they have.

                                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                          @seeker said in PhotoPrism - Personal Photo Management powered by Go and Google TensorFlow:

                                          I hope that the photoprism is found to alleviate the privacy concerns mentioned prior in this thread

                                          I'm fairly certain those concerns are unfounded. Somewhere on GitHub, in response to a feature request, I think, the authors rejected the idea of deeper integration with Google because they too want a private alternative, hence creating what they have.

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                                          @jdaviescoates is there a bounty up for this one? I would be interested in packaging it after I'm done with my current effort if there's a bounty 🙂

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